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quarantinethepast posted:You know Russia's invasion of Ukraine short term is going to strengthen NATO, but I'm thinking that if Ukraine beats the invasion it could give support to the opposite position too. Yeah sorry, no way. Who would want to risk going through this voluntarily? As funny as it is to see russian tanks stuck in the mud, I'd rather never have them set foot on my soil in the first place, which is what NATO membership ensures.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is Ukraine abbreviated to UA and Russia to RU? Well when they were setting up the internet TLDs, Great Britain was more important than Ukraine. See also Switzerland getting Ch over China.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is Ukraine abbreviated to UA and Russia to RU? OctaMurk posted:really dude
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OctaMurk posted:really dude That does make more sense, yes. I obviously didn't read the post he replied to closely enough.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is Ukraine abbreviated to UA and Russia to RU?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is Ukraine abbreviated to UA and Russia to RU? International standard 2-letter country codes. https://www.iban.com/country-codes
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Ukraine is also doing as well as it is because it's spent eight years at war already, even if the West forgot. That's eight years of lives lost, budget cuts for infrastructure and welfare, and general instability.BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is Ukraine abbreviated to UA and Russia to RU? Because there's more countries than letters, so we need to abbreviate with 2. The United Kingdom already took UK, so Ukraine needs to settle for UA. Russia -> RU is simple.
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Cugel the Clever posted:The folks most adamantly doing that are the pro-Putin folks, though? They're ardently defending Putin's illegal invasion while declaring that this is the only acceptable position of those who are anti-war/anti-imperialism. That's just a matter of there not being a lot of worthwhile arguments in favor of putin or the russian invasion at this point, and so they mostly fit into the leftover grooves of regime apologism and start looking same-ish. Also, they're forced to do the bedfellows thing with people who are whole-assing the craziest, most obvious propaganda, like that this is actually being done for 'denazification'
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Dante posted:Well the war itself makes energy a national security issue, if that entails expanding solar or coal kinda depends on your country. The oil price will for sure stay high during this, which in itself is good for the green energy though. Well it was being said that in the next 2-3 years electric vehicles would be equal in sales of petrol vehicles and then overtake them going forward. Energy is a national security issue and should have been framed that way years ago.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is Ukraine abbreviated to UA and Russia to RU? The ISO standard (written by English speaking people) that governs two-character country abbreviations typically prefers the first two letters of a place, so you would think Ukraine is UK and Russia is RU. The United Kingdom, which goes by GB, asked not to allocate UK. [strike]UR is Uruguay.[/strike] Edit: Uruguay is apparently UY, so I'm not sure why they didn't allocate UR to Ukraine. But anyway, hence UA. In general the codes don't match the native languages (Egypt is "EG" rather than "MI", Hungary is HU rather than MA, etc.) and instead match English. Man Plan Canal fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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Good think-tank piece that argues that the reason Russia hasn't used its airforce isn't just due to being overly cautious, or because it's in disrepair, but because the Russian airforce might actually be institutionally incapable of conduction real air operations: https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/rusi-defence-systems/russian-air-force-actually-incapable-complex-air-operations/ Highlights: quote:- First, while the VKS has gained significant combat experience in complex air environments over Syria since 2015, it has only operated aircraft in small formations during those operations [...] This means that its operational commanders have very little practical experience of how to plan, brief and coordinate complex air operations involving tens or hundreds of assets in a high-threat air environment. A lot of people seem to think that Ukraine is in trouble when the Russian airforce finally decides to attack in force, but there is apparently decent evidence that what we've seen so far is just the best that they can do.
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Nessus posted:That's their domain codes and UA is easier to type than UKR (and just UK has some risk of confusion, Putin isn't landing at Bristol... yet) London was successfully occupied decades ago, FSB operates freely there. Salisbury area is still contested, the church towers are awfully high.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is Ukraine abbreviated to UA and Russia to RU? Because United Kingdom booked UK.
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FishBulbia posted:No, he's just a neorealist contrarian. These people only know him because they saw that Youtube video with 8 million views of a lecture he gave once. I watched the video and didn't find anything that objectionable. Actually the only thing I titled my head over was when he said "America overthrows countries and makes them democratic" which had me roll my eyes. Yes I know he followed up with "because our government believes that those countries will then ally with us", but still. The fact that what he stated is considered "radical" and "dangerous" really frightens me. Discendo Vox posted:The mediating account seems to be misrepresenting the letter they're posting, which surprise, isn't calling for a "cancellation". Assuming that the letter on the Twitter is accurate (wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't), the students literally accuse him of spreading "Putinism" and cherry pick not even quotes but like words from part of a sentence from his hour plus video. I mean the letter begins asking for his "appeal". punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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OctaMurk posted:really dude I didn't even think what I said was controversial, given how many times we've seen Russia invade a non-NATO neighbor and just steamroller them or jack up the atrocities to pull themselves out of a quagmire. poo poo, we don't even have to go back too far with the 2014 invasion of Ukraine, which had a very little external support. If we had their backs then and threw what we're throwing now, they wouldn't have lost Donbass and Crimea. BTW, Alexandr Dugin popped up on Facebook to talk about the current conflict...  Edit: think this might actually be from 2014 Young Freud fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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quarantinethepast posted:Yeah funny how said "anti-war" stance is rewarding Russia for committing acts of aggression, which will embolden them to do more in the future. Likewise encouraging further strongmen to pursue glorious little revanchist wars.
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1500196510054637569 some FSB analyst posted:...I made up the report.
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Young Freud posted:I didn't even think what I said was controversial, given how many times we've seen Russia invade a non-NATO neighbor and just steamroller them or jack up the atrocities to pull themselves out of a quagmire. poo poo, we don't even have to go back too far with the 2014 invasion of Ukraine, which had a very little external support. If we had their backs then and threw what we're throwing now, they wouldn't have lost Donbass and Crimea. He's kinda correct about the first half! Russia has helped coalesce a global liberal elite around a cause and a set of values, ironically this is probably the biggest shot in the arm for global liberalism since...the soviet union was a threat.
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Russia has spent so much time and money funding and supporting far-right groups that they'll have no shortage of places to denazify
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Is the last part real? If so please link it. It'll it's part of the article it may be a translate error also
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Dante posted:He's kinda correct about the first half! Russia has helped coalesce a global liberal elite around a cause and a set of values, ironically this is probably the biggest shot in the arm for global liberalism since...the soviet union was a threat.
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Nessus posted:"Now that we have set fire to any hope of being part of their world order Yeah, the Dugin rant comes off as an almost comically unaware text-based version of the bicycle self-wrecking meme.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Did your autocorrect have a grand mal seizure here? I assume this is supposed to read "an argument that, in the end also" or something similar. Phone typing w/autocorrect. Sorry.
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He's making a list, he's checking it twice https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1500182315112321028 e: who knew that starting a war would negatively impact people's perception of your country!
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Russian command and control seems highly doubtful so if it is indeed true that Russians shelled evacuation points it's as likely to be stupidity as malice. Djarum posted:It's a mix of poorly trained and disciplined soldiers coupled with little accountability for them. Let's say we put you into an active war zone, given a gun and little training. Everyone is going to spook you and eventually you are going to take everything as a target. Yeah that's probably it, it seems like a bad tactical move so if it's Russian soldiers doing it without orders from higher backing it up it makes more sense. It's tragic that this is the way it worked and I doubt those soldiers will stand trial for these war crimes.
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PederP posted:Yeah, the Dugin rant comes off as an almost comically unaware text-based version of the bicycle self-wrecking meme.
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So my mom just called me. She’s a 71 year old progressive Democrat and she called me to tell me: “I wish we would just set up a no-fly-zone already. If we have to go to war with Russia we might as well do it before your son and your brother’s son are military age.” My reply was, “I prefer that we don’t all die in a nuclear holocaust if that’s okay…” To which she responded, “meh, I am not that worried about it. Probably because I am closer to dying than you are.” This phone call was probably the most concerning thing I’ve encountered since the was started. 
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punk rebel ecks posted:Assuming that the letter on the Twitter is accurate (wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't), the students literally accuse him of spreading "Putinism" and cherry pick not even quotes but like words from part of a sentence from his hour plus video. I mean the letter begins asking for his "appeal". The letter is appealing to the president of the university. It's also not just talking about his youtube video- it's coming from current students, referring to claims from him in his classes and questions about his funding sources. Without a big derail, I'll say that it is very doable for well-moneyed figures (I'm familiar with it in industry) to set up professors to legitimize themselves in the academy.
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Young Freud posted:I didn't even think what I said was controversial, given how many times we've seen Russia invade a non-NATO neighbor and just steamroller them or jack up the atrocities to pull themselves out of a quagmire. poo poo, we don't even have to go back too far with the 2014 invasion of Ukraine, which had a very little external support. If we had their backs then and threw what we're throwing now, they wouldn't have lost Donbass and Crimea. Ah the 'anti-globalist populism' of oligarchs waging proxy wars.
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Kamrat posted:Yeah that's probably it, it seems like a bad tactical move so if it's Russian soldiers doing it without orders from higher backing it up it makes more sense. You think all those artillerymen are getting spooked and "accidentally" bombarding a city, and accurately hitting the one supposedly safe evac route?  Pretty sure Russia has a documented history of pulling this exact same poo poo before.
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ZombieLenin posted:So my mom just called me. She’s a 71 year old progressive Democrat and she called me to tell me: Alchenar posted:He's making a list, he's checking it twice
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Dugin is an insane dipshit, like if Steve Bannon had a free reign for over a decade to just dream up the dumbest nationalist horseshit possible.
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Alchenar posted:He's making a list, he's checking it twice You know how when you’re not logged in to this dead comedy forum certain words are replaced? I sincerely hope war/special military operation has been added to that list.
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ZombieLenin posted:So my mom just called me. She’s a 71 year old progressive Democrat and she called me to tell me: Boomers, man.
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Discendo Vox posted:The letter is appealing to the president of the university. It's also not just talking about his youtube video- it's coming from current students, referring to claims from him in his classes and questions about his funding sources. Without a big derail, I'll say that it is very doable for well-moneyed figures (I'm familiar with it in industry) to set up professors to legitimize themselves in the academy. The letter doesn't mention anything about his classes, just his lecture video on Youtube. It does mention funding at the end though which if the students want to know is fine by me.
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Kamrat posted:I don't get why they would even do this, shooting non-combatants is just a waste of ammo and it makes the remaining people fight even harder for their land. For some reason fascists always think that terrorizing people who *can* shoot back wilk work out the same way as terrorizing people who can't.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:You think all those artillerymen are getting spooked and "accidentally" bombarding a city, and accurately hitting the one supposedly safe evac route? The idea that a whole artillery unit just happened to miss the memo that there was a cease fire between this and this hour - it's just absurd apologia or wishful thinking trying to find a charitable chain of events
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punk rebel ecks posted:I watched the video and didn't find anything that objectionable. Actually the only thing I titled my head over was when he said "America overthrows countries and makes them democratic" which had me roll my eyes. Yes I know he followed up with "because our government believes that those countries will then ally with us", but still. It's been a bit that I watched it, so i might get some of his wording wrong, but a pretty glaring mistake he makes is that he conflates America and the EU as "the West". It's easy to declare Russia a regional power that's of no threat to America, and that the real focus of America should be on China. But Russia and Ukraine are very much an existential issue to Europe. Either Europe expands democracy East, or Russia expands authoritarianism West. It's been the assumption that Europe can afford to be patient, eventually Russia would acculturate, and Ukraine could serve as a bridge between them in the meantime. Putin has categorically taken that option of the table, as long as he and his clique remain in power. Europe really, really can't ignore that. Mearsheimer seems to think America can afford to ignore Russia and abandon Europe, in order to focus on China.
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steinrokkan posted:The idea that a whole artillery unit just happened to miss the memo that there was a cease fire between this and this hour - it's just absurd apologia or wishful thinking trying to find a charitable chain of events They presumably also missed the memo about only performing precision strikes against military targets, too.
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punk rebel ecks posted:The letter doesn't mention anything about his classes, just his lecture video on Youtube. It does mention funding at the end though which if the students want to know is fine by me. You may be missing part of it, there's an image that begins "as recently as a month ago" that talks about his classroom statements. Just for broader reference, the example I was thinking of was TJ Kaptchuk; I don't remember who I tracked down that had set him in place (and they were a proxy), but he's undermined the medical profession for years and years from his seat.
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