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fuctifino posted:There's an interesting snippet from the UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss where she admits they've been planning for this since the end of last year. Don't be too harsh on world's first sentient muppet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhlRM6rYck
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KitConstantine posted:OMG the same Russian Ambassador to the UK who made the ~implications~ about NATO earlier today is now whining about how his office is getting threats. Logistical issues you say?
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KitConstantine posted:In social media news Telegram is one of the last independent social media sites standing in Russia, and the government there has reportedly been wavering on whether to pull the plug on it or not. The founder and CEO of Telegram is from Russia originally and put out a wishy-washy statement earlier in the war. Seems like his position has firmed, and he's pro-Ukrainian. My Ukrainian friend works at Telegram, hopefully it is a result of him and other Ukrainian employees pushing on Durov Durov is a weirdo libertarian and seemingly free speech absolutist but he collaborated with Russian authorities in the past so who knows
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Chalks posted:Logistical issues you say? A joke and all that I know, but I imagine it has something to do with the daily protests and defacings. Also presumably a lot of suppliers won't work with them either. e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYgtzg8hpIQ Private Speech fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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So I stepped away from this for a few days, whats the current t situation?
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Telsa Cola posted:It's explicitly a war crime and it would also probably understandably have them treat you like a spy. I figured that might be the case. Interesting. Bremen posted:Just to clarify, the previous poster means the uncompressed original video is out there and Putin's hand doesn't pass through the microphone in it, so we know with complete certainty that it *is* a compression artifact. Oh, I haven't seen that. I withdraw my point then, still seems p bizarre to me as I've never seen compression do something like that, but if the higher quality video doesn't have that issue then I must be wrong.
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BigRed0427 posted:So I stepped away from this for a few days, whats the current t situation? Russia continues to have problems
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BigRed0427 posted:So I stepped away from this for a few days, whats the current t situation? Ukraine shelled a Russian patrol boat and sunk it, Ukrainian Marines may have destroyed 30 helicopters in the South, a fuel convoy got destroyed. Russian shelling and cruise missiles continues, Russian demands have not really changed.
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fuctifino posted:There's an interesting snippet from the UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss where she admits they've been planning for this since the end of last year. I mean, as far as I can tell, she's a total clown and an embarrassment for the Brits. But hasn't the US warned people since about that time that Russia was planning to invade Ukraine, only nearly nobody believed them back then? If the UK government did believe US intelligence, it would only make sense to plan for this since that time. I don't see the huge revelation here.
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BigRed0427 posted:So I stepped away from this for a few days, whats the current t situation? North has ground to a halt, west and south russia has progressed some but there's indications that they're outrunning their supply chain still and the fact that they're not security territory instead of just major roadways is leading to logistics issues for russia. Also some truly embarrassing losses as another user pointed out. Ukrainian cities are now starting to be bombarded more in earnest and civilian casualties are starting to kick in. Russia's economy is so bad it's basically collapsed so the trillion ruble question is, can Ukraine hold them off until russia can no longer afford the war.
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KitConstantine posted:OMG the same Russian Ambassador to the UK who made the ~implications~ about NATO earlier today is now whining about how his office is getting threats. our twitter is "blowing up" unlike Ukraine which is undergoing peaceful operation
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CommieGIR posted:Ukraine shelled a Russian patrol boat and sunk it, Ukrainian Marines may have destroyed 30 helicopters in the South, a fuel convoy got destroyed. Russian shelling and cruise missiles continues, Russian demands have not really changed. You forgot the new stated reason for the war, which might be the most  statement of all time
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1500908409268355076?cxt=HHwWiICy7d-PptQpAAAA I'm not shocked, but I am disappointed.
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Torrannor posted:I mean, as far as I can tell, she's a total clown and an embarrassment for the Brits. But hasn't the US warned people since about that time that Russia was planning to invade Ukraine, only nearly nobody believed them back then? If the UK government did believe US intelligence, it would only make sense to plan for this since that time. I don't see the huge revelation here. Yeah, sorry, I wasn't aware the invasion was all known about back then. I only started following the events in Ukraine a week or two before they crossed the border. The tweet was just something I saw blowing up in my corner of twitter. I guess the main take from that video then is her being grilled on only accepting 50 refugees so far, and her passing the buck to the Home Office. Talking of which, this is what greets refugees in Calais: https://twitter.com/andylines/status/1500837210895130629
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Play posted:Is dressing up in the other side's uniforms like, acceptable overall? Are there any treaties or anything preventing that? No. It’s a violation of the Geneva Protocols and anyone caught doing so is only protected by the Geneva Protocols in as much as they are to receive a military trial before you shoot them. Other than that military trial, individual combatants caught pretending to be members of the other sides armed forces are to be treated as spies and are expressly denied the protections of the Geneva Conventions and the status of Prisoner of War. In other words, dressing up in the other sides uniform makes you a spy or saboteur. Such individuals can be tried by court martial under the governing military laws of the combatant who captured them. I have no idea what the punishment is for spying under Ukrainian military law, but I can tell you that the UCMJ (governing law for the armed forces of the United States), anyone captured and convicted by court martial of spying during a time of war receives a mandatory sentence of death. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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Threadkiller Dog posted:If this were a wargame it would be disallowed. lol at the idea that war has rules after this.
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fuctifino posted:There's an interesting snippet from the UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss where she admits they've been planning for this since the end of last year. Aside from being not news, https://dorseteye.com/ looks suspiciously like a very hasty reskin of RT/Sputnik. It's the exact same frontpage layout, you'll notice the only two actually local news articles are just carbon copy "Police very concerned for" three line articles, the rest is just Russia propaganda on Ukraine. E: in fact it's really loving obviously a low-effort reskin of RT/Sputnik, which tells you a lot about the sort of person who's sharing their links (not burning you, more the exhausting twitter personality everyone kinda hopes would go away) Alchenar fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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Alchenar posted:Aside from being not news, https://dorseteye.com/ looks suspiciously like a very hasty reskin of RT/Sputnik. It's the exact same frontpage layout, you'll notice the only two actually local news articles are just carbon copy "Police very concerned for" three line articles, the rest is just Russia propaganda on Ukraine. Ah poo poo, I didn't notice it was from that site. I blame old age and bad eyesight. I normally avoid Dorset News like the plague. It's literally just one person posting from his bedroom. Apologies. e: quote:in fact it's really loving obviously a low-effort reskin of RT/Sputnik, which tells you a lot about the sort of person who's sharing their links (not burning you, more the exhausting twitter personality everyone kinda hopes would go away) No, thanks for the heads up. More and more people in my circles are being influenced by Tankies in theirs. I'm going to dive in and correct a few things. Thanks again. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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Nessus posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSzAnNU4u28 This is the kind of content that keeps me in SA
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fuctifino posted:Ah poo poo, I didn't notice it was from that site. I blame old age and bad eyesight. Maybe its because your not eating enough cucumbers.
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Play posted:Is dressing up in the other side's uniforms like, acceptable overall? Are there any treaties or anything preventing that? If you follow Russian doctrine you find crime time never stops, based on the amazing hacks of not caring what happens your men and having enough nukes leadership can't be touched.
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1500908409268355076?cxt=HHwWiICy7d-PptQpAAAA Interesting that Britain would do that given that we only get about 4% of our energy from Russia. Presumably rejecting on behalf of nations that are more dependant on them? Honestly I think the west should be making lots of noise about blocking Russian energy imports even if there is no plan to actually follow through. Acting like you we want to cut it off will discourage Russia from cutting it off in retaliation which is something they may do as a gently caress you if things get bad.
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KitConstantine posted:Anyone in tech from Europe know anything about Hetzner hosting company? People in the comments say they are sketchy/have weak security but it's waaaay outside my area. They have decent reputation in EU tech sector. VideoGameVet posted:I was an advisor on Full Spectrum Command (a recreation of the Ft. Brag military operations in an urban environment training thing). Company commander stuff. Haha, nice 2020 option indeed.
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Chalks posted:Interesting that Britain would do that given that we only get about 4% of our energy from Russia. Presumably rejecting on behalf of nations that are more dependant on them? Even if we don't get our energy directly from Russia, if Germany suddenly needs to buy their Gas from another country we'll be competing with them for it. Prices will go up for everyone, regardless of the source.
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Chalks posted:Interesting that Britain would do that given that we only get about 4% of our energy from Russia. Presumably rejecting on behalf of nations that are more dependant on them? Shell and BP are headquartered in the UK, as are many of the European subsidiaries of international oil companies. But, to play Devil's Advocate, cutting off oil imports is perversely counter-productive. Oil is fungible and it WILL get sold at going trade rates, even if the US and Europe aren't buying. So if American and European producers/refiners are limiting crude imports and paying more for oil from other sources, every barrel of oil Putin sells will be worth more the regime, even with banking sanctions complicating the transaction. If you really want to hurt Russian oil, you should subsidize the poo poo out of alternative sources like shale oil in Alberta and the Dakotas, flood the market to decrease the price.
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If Ukraine accepted Russias demand to stay neutral would that really be such a big deal if the west armed them to the teeth? Russia already got a bloody nose from this invasion, a future invasion might be even worse for them if Ukraine had even more training and weapons.
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The guy who rammed the gate of the Russian embassy in Ireland: https://twitter.com/CllrMickDuff/status/1500886146578059269?t=6EcICPpcHoM1hxDGaNdx2g&s=19
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Charliegrs posted:If Ukraine accepted Russias demand to stay neutral would that really be such a big deal if the west armed them to the teeth? Russia already got a bloody nose from this invasion, a future invasion might be even worse for them if Ukraine had even more training and weapons. Never believe a Russian when they talk about neutrality
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Charliegrs posted:If Ukraine accepted Russias demand to stay neutral would that really be such a big deal if the west armed them to the teeth? Russia already got a bloody nose from this invasion, a future invasion might be even worse for them if Ukraine had even more training and weapons. A key part of russia's demands is that Ukraine doesn't get to have a military. So the moment Russia declares that Ukraine isn't being neutral enough they can invade with no resistance.
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fuctifino posted:Yeah, sorry, I wasn't aware the invasion was all known about back then. I only started following the events in Ukraine a week or two before they crossed the border. The tweet was just something I saw blowing up in my corner of twitter. It's kind of interesting that the UK has gone this route unlike Denmark. As most of you know we have an extremely harsh legislation considering immigration (and not just brown ones - being allowed to bring a non-EU partner/spouse is expensive and difficult, American students regularly get deported due to minor mistakes filling out paperwork, etc.) and asylum. Almost all of that was completely waived not just for Ukrainian immigrants, but also (mostly) for refugees previously staying in Ukraine, Part of this is due to populism and employers being exceptionally thirsty for labor, but from most of the political parties there did seem to be a genuine wish to actually take in refugees from Ukraine. The UK seems to be in this weird role where the government is extremely vocal in support of Ukraine, sanctions against Russia and helping refugees. But the actions of the government (at least seen from the outside - I know little about UK politics) are just so wildly incongruous with what is being said, that it is almost comical. I just don't understand why? My preconception is that every politician is a scumbag, so it's not that part I don't get. But isn't the public support for pro-Ukraine and taking refugees strong enough to make it an easy choice to have actions match words? The UK also needs labor, so I'd imagine employers are every bit as thirsty for immigrant labor as here in Denmark. Is it still Brexit politics at work or is Boris and his gang just plain malevolent? I guess I just answered my own long-winded question. But still, people like Duda and Orban are taking in refugees. The Danish social democrats are doing so, too - and they're even anti-labor import unlike the rest. UK politicians are an enigma.
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I'll believe it when I see it. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500915342515789828?s=20&t=O5d9roV0nPBwoS5vdLwSbQ
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Charliegrs posted:If Ukraine accepted Russias demand to stay neutral would that really be such a big deal if the west armed them to the teeth? Russia already got a bloody nose from this invasion, a future invasion might be even worse for them if Ukraine had even more training and weapons. If they do that then Russia spends 5 years building up an actual functional military and declares war again, crushing them. The only route to survival for Ukraine is to come out the other side of the war and join NATO. Their success in this war is 90% Russian incompetence and no amount of preparation will allow them to survive a do-over.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:I'll believe it when I see it. They only get 2% of their supply from Russia, would it even matter?
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just woke up and saw that some russian gymnast dipshit wants to get banned https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/07/shocking-behaviour-russian-gymnast-shows-z-symbol-on-podium-next-to-ukrainian-winner quote:After winning bronze in the parallel bars final at the Apparatus World Cup in Doha, Kuliak taped the letter “Z” to the front of his outfit before standing next to the gold medallist, Illia Kovtun of Ukraine, for the national anthems.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:I'll believe it when I see it. we don't import much russian oil iirc, and we are also currently negotiating with venezuela to switch sides
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PederP posted:It's kind of interesting that the UK has gone this route unlike Denmark. As most of you know we have an extremely harsh legislation considering immigration (and not just brown ones - being allowed to bring a non-EU partner/spouse is expensive and difficult, American students regularly get deported due to minor mistakes filling out paperwork, etc.) and asylum. Almost all of that was completely waived not just for Ukrainian immigrants, but also (mostly) for refugees previously staying in Ukraine, Part of this is due to populism and employers being exceptionally thirsty for labor, but from most of the political parties there did seem to be a genuine wish to actually take in refugees from Ukraine.
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This twitter has been monitoring Belarusian airspace during the war so far. Judging by it's posting over the last couple of hours Russia is throwing as much air as they have ready at Ukraine right now  Russia is pretty solidly known to be staging their air assaults out of Belarusian airspace.https://twitter.com/MotolkoHelp It's Belarus-based
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Chalks posted:They only get 2% of their supply from Russia, would it even matter? It's to help Biden, not Ukraine.
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PederP posted:The UK seems to be in this weird role where the government is extremely vocal in support of Ukraine, sanctions against Russia and helping refugees. But the actions of the government (at least seen from the outside - I know little about UK politics) are just so wildly incongruous with what is being said, that it is almost comical. I just don't understand why? My preconception is that every politician is a scumbag, so it's not that part I don't get. But isn't the public support for pro-Ukraine and taking refugees strong enough to make it an easy choice to have actions match words? The UK also needs labor, so I'd imagine employers are every bit as thirsty for immigrant labor as here in Denmark. Is it still Brexit politics at work or is Boris and his gang just plain malevolent?
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