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https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1500915756237737991
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Mar 7, 2022 21:42
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Z is the start of the sound of the word "West" in Ukrainian and Russian. And apparently it is being used for a slogan, because 'za' means 'for', like in WW2 "Za Stalina! Za Rodinu!" was a common phrase meaning "For Stalin, for Motherland!"
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Mar 7, 2022 21:44
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Rapulum_Dei posted:I get the reluctance to embargo gas supplies - it’s impractical for Europe’s addiction and the price is already rising which is money in Putins pocket even if he can’t spend it anywhere. Oil producing nations are by and large authoritarian and also benefit from high prices
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Mar 7, 2022 21:44
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Oh snap. Death blow right here.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:44
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Zephro posted:People assume the reason the Americans are suddenly talking to the Venezuelans is a deal whereby Venezuela get their sanctions lifted in return for maximising production to offset the expected loss from Russia. it's worth noting there are two big problems with this: 1) venezuela's oil industry has been wrecked by a decade+ of mismanagement and it will take a lot of effort to "maximize production" 2) venezuela produces some really lovely oil that requires specialized refineries to work with; i know there's one in the gulf coast but I don't know if it can ramp up the ability to process that crude or if its capacity is maxed out
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Mar 7, 2022 21:44
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It is indeed true. The Hardbass Revolution starts tonight! 
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Mar 7, 2022 21:45
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Zephro posted:People assume the reason the Americans are suddenly talking to the Venezuelans is a deal whereby Venezuela get their sanctions lifted in return for maximising production to offset the expected loss from Russia. Also sudden swift progress in the new Iran deal everyone forgot about!
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Mar 7, 2022 21:46
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evilweasel posted:it's worth noting there are two big problems with this: I thought Biden and co. had spoken to UAE about gas exports for Europe? Or is this a case of 'yeah tht would help but it's not a replacement'
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evilweasel posted:it's probably best not to cause an economic disaster for germany while you're trying to get the EU to support you as much as possible It's not the economics that is the problem. It's relying on gas heating and not putting a gun to landlord's head to insulate for decades.
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Zephro posted:People assume the reason the Americans are suddenly talking to the Venezuelans is a deal whereby Venezuela get their sanctions lifted in return for maximising production to offset the expected loss from Russia. It would make the most sense. Them, along with Iranian oil, would do much to blunt any loss from Russia, and I'm sure both of the governments aren't going to mind the high oil prices at the moment.
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Nenonen posted:And apparently it is being used for a slogan, because 'za' means 'for', like in WW2 "Za Stalina! Za Rodinu!" was a common phrase meaning "For Stalin, for Motherland!" I don’t believe that’s the motivation for the choice vehicle marking. They already have that with every other soldier being plastered in St. George’s ribbons like they were paid crisis actors filming for RT interviews in Riga.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:47
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Nessus posted:This may be as much about the market price poo poo than about actual material realities - there are not objective shortages of gasoline in the US and I imagine not in Europe either, it's just getting more expensive. iirc the UAE gas exports for europe were part of a plan for dealing with if russia shut off gas exports entirely in response to the sanctions; it might work if you absolutely need to get gas to germany to avoid people freezing, but not so much for getting gas at a "reasonable" price and yeah venezuela production getting restarted might cause oil prices to fall sooner than their production would go online
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Mar 7, 2022 21:48
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I don’t believe that’s the motivation for the choice vehicle marking. They already have that with every other soldier being plastered in St. George’s ribbons like they were paid crisis actors filming for RT interviews in Riga. No, but it's being cited as a reason why the latin Z letter in particular has been picked for civilian propaganda purposes. Otherwise we should be seeing V and O signs in same quantities?
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Mar 7, 2022 21:49
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Sorry for the dumb question but what would the implications of Russia defaulting be? Even worse devaluation of their currency?
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Mar 7, 2022 21:49
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Nenonen posted:No, but it's being cited as a reason why the latin Z letter in particular has been picked for civilian propaganda purposes. Otherwise we should be seeing V and O signs in same quantities?
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Mar 7, 2022 21:50
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Nessus posted:I thought Biden and co. had spoken to UAE about gas exports for Europe? Or is this a case of 'yeah tht would help but it's not a replacement'
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Mar 7, 2022 21:50
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Zephro posted:People assume the reason the Americans are suddenly talking to the Venezuelans is a deal whereby Venezuela get their sanctions lifted in return for maximising production to offset the expected loss from Russia. isn't the venezuelan oil sector a hosed up mess of broken equipment and procedures? iirc last year russia looked into taking over some chunk of it and backed away, probably because the cost of repair to get the oil wouldn't be worth the price of the oil. like i dont think it would really be possible for venezuela to increase production https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220114-venezuela-the-decline-of-an-oil-giant-in-crisis
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Mar 7, 2022 21:50
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Grouchio posted:It is indeed true. The Hardbass Revolution starts tonight! No joke the conscripts coming back home will see everything they enjoyed for their 18 years of life; social media, western clothes and electronics, as well as millions of potential jobs, all gone forever because of the war they were forced to fight for Putin's ego. There's a real good chance Russia does not survive their own troops returning home unless they call this off immediately.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:51
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Seth Pecksniff posted:It would make the most sense. Them, along with Iranian oil, would do much to blunt any loss from Russia, and I'm sure both of the governments aren't going to mind the high oil prices at the moment. The high oil prices are offsetting some of the damage sanctions are causing to russias ability to finance the war so lowering oil prices isn’t just about helping peoples commute it’s also important in terms of the point of sanctions. That said it puts Biden in the position of getting to run on high gas prices or on being soft on the two biggest Republican boogeymans in the world in November and I don’t envy him for that
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:isn't the venezuelan oil sector a hosed up mess of broken equipment and procedures? iirc last year russia looked into taking over some chunk of it and backed away, probably because the cost of repair to get the oil wouldn't be worth the price of the oil. like i dont think it would really be possible for venezuela to increase production
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Mar 7, 2022 21:52
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For the 2 other Latvians reading this thread https://twitter.com/ivchix/status/1500920405476921350 Nenonen posted:No, but it's being cited as a reason why the latin Z letter in particular has been picked for civilian propaganda purposes. Otherwise we should be seeing V and O signs in same quantities? Oh, for civilian purposes it could’ve very well been repurposed under that pretence. I thought you implied the military chose it for that reason, when it’s quite clearly the western military district. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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Mar 7, 2022 21:52
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BigRed0427 posted:So what is the significance of the white Z? It's a combat designator. For this operation Russians are using a number of letters and symbols (sometimes in combination) to mark their vehicles as friendly at a glance, as well as indicate the force grouping and target areas they belong to for traffic control purposes. At this stage of the war the latter function has degraded, but with Z being the more ubiquitous (used by forces both from the Crimea axis and a variant in the Kharkiv axis) its ended up becoming emblematic of the invasion itself in popular culture, particularly in the context of showing support for it.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:53
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:isn't the venezuelan oil sector a hosed up mess of broken equipment and procedures? iirc last year russia looked into taking over some chunk of it and backed away, probably because the cost of repair to get the oil wouldn't be worth the price of the oil. like i dont think it would really be possible for venezuela to increase production "We'll strangle you slightly less violently if you get your rear end in gear and give me more freedom juice. Cheap!" We live in such fun times.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:54
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slow hands posted:Sorry for the dumb question but what would the implications of Russia defaulting be? Even worse devaluation of their currency? Nah, with sanctions and asset freeze all it will do is make their borrowing more expensive in the future. I doubt they care one bit.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:55
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slow hands posted:Sorry for the dumb question but what would the implications of Russia defaulting be? Even worse devaluation of their currency? Yes, but also a lot of ex-USSR getting blasted due to reliance on Russian economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Russian_financial_crisis
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:isn't the venezuelan oil sector a hosed up mess of broken equipment and procedures? iirc last year russia looked into taking over some chunk of it and backed away, probably because the cost of repair to get the oil wouldn't be worth the price of the oil. like i dont think it would really be possible for venezuela to increase production It depends on how cynical Maduro is and willing to throw out what he believes in to save his skin. But if he’s cynical enough to betray Russia which supported him while Venezuela was a sanctioned pariah for the loving United States that’s been trying to depose him nonstop to get sanctions lifted he’s probably cynical enough to let private investment come back in if it means Venezuelan state gets revenues going and I have no doubt the oil companies would swarm in like flies if that were the case.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:56
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alex314 posted:Nah, with sanctions and asset freeze all it will do is make their borrowing more expensive in the future. I doubt they care one bit. I've seen people saying that creditors may be able to sue to get liens Russian assets located outside of Russia which could be interesting.
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Mar 7, 2022 21:58
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Chalks posted:I've seen people saying that creditors may be able to sue to get liens Russian assets located outside of Russia which could be interesting. If I were Zelenskyy I'd try to get the dibs for rebuilding Ukraine.
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Mar 7, 2022 22:00
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Maduro will only care about consistency insofar as playing up the anti-US pariah state image helps him hold absolute control of the country. If he thinks he can 'adjust' that imaging slightly and get life support for his industries, he would easily do so. But trusting the US is always a reasonably hard sell, so it depends on how much of a lifeline the US is dangling.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:The high oil prices are offsetting some of the damage sanctions are causing to russias ability to finance the war so lowering oil prices isn’t just about helping peoples commute it’s also important in terms of the point of sanctions. absolutely no one gives a gently caress as long as gas is cheap Also doesn't Venezuela have like the largest reserves in the world? Makes sense to get in good with them. Also glad to hear Iran was willing to go back to negotiations with us despite our dipshittery with Trump. I think Biden actually got a lease on life by being able to give a huge black eye to Russia and cut off one of the opposition party's primary backers. I would say he's not looking bad going into midterms now, especially if he ever pulls his head out of his rear end and legalizes weed/ forgives student debt. And I loving hate Biden so... Russia kinda gave him a gift. It's wierd seeing almost all of us united again in our national pastime: xenophobic hate for someone else TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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Mar 7, 2022 22:01
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The Wagner mercs that have helped prop him up being busy dying in the mud at the moment might also be an incentive.
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Mar 7, 2022 22:03
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the popes toes posted:Tough to believe the photo is real, as if Vogue had a wartime correspondent. On the other hand, this lady's shopping habits are threatened by rather drastic change, so maybe. Nah. Love the scarf, though If those helmets/armor were white, we could say "Begun, the Hunger Games have"
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Mar 7, 2022 22:03
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Despera posted:Signing up to be a Russian soldier Perfect av/post combo
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Mar 7, 2022 22:03
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Wow they did it. These crazy bastards really did it! Putin will be publicly dragged through the streets with gold chains around his neck!
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Mar 7, 2022 22:03
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Venezuela has enormous reserves of lovely oil and given the way technology has gone, it seems to be a matter of time as to when the 'oil age' ends. (Oil would still have value after this but it wouldn't be the primary fuel of personal vehicles.)
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Mar 7, 2022 22:04
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https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1500936199812575236 Woohoo, Russia #1!
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Mar 7, 2022 22:05
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Russia has five military districts. The Western (Zapad) is the one that has received the lion's share of modernisation so is the most 'fighty' and leading the axis attacking Kiev and assessed by many to be the center of gravity of Russia's advance. All four land districts have been mobilised and are participating and their formations have their own first letter embalzened on their vehicles, we are probably seeing more Z's than anything else because the Kiev area is producing the lion's share of social media stuff. 
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Mar 7, 2022 22:06
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the popes toes posted:Tough to believe the photo is real, as if Vogue had a wartime correspondent. On the other hand, this lady's shopping habits are threatened by rather drastic change, so maybe. Nah. Love the scarf, though This look like a russian remake of the 2002 budget movie Equilibrium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4weEXyoXZKs Dante fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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D34THROW posted:At least they have sexy guns. I miss when movies had guns that weren't just tac'd out ARs.
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