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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:This is nonsense. Almost every city in Germany has lows below freezing forecast for at least a couple of nights in the next week. It's been down to like -5 the last couple of nights here too and I didn't need to turn the heat on yet. Oma's gonna be fine.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I’ve registered your toxx, don’t thank me. I wanna see the toxx registry 
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God, the transatlantic accent was so cool. Stupid question here, but in practical terms how does the transfer actually take place? I assume you don't ship them on flatbeds (or roll them). Does Ukraine send pilots to pick them up?
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Eric Cantonese posted:They kill your birds. And large areas of your untouched wilds. And leave a constant, torturing hum. And gently caress over reindeer pastures.
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BoldFace posted:Wind turbines are really ugly. I genuinely find them to be beautiful
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Might have been posted already, but Unilever and L'Oreal now also pulling back from Russia: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60657155 All of these withdrawals have to be severely impacting the average Russian at this point.
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Kaal posted:I mean if Germany intentionally poisoned every one of its reactors with boric acid, then yeah they hosed themselves and would need to build new facilities. But Habeck is already talking about reactivating the ones they shuttered this year, so at the very least that would be another 30 TWh of returned capacity. Realistically though, this is an issue that Germany has been building for themselves ever since they pulled the plug on six new reactors under construction in 1990 in order to burn more coal and gas. It's going to be a little painful to undo. Half of Germany uses gas for heating, and yet Germany has persistently refused to build LNG terminals or connect fuel pipelines to any source but Russia. That was dumb and everyone knew it. But frankly even if they need to buy a space heater for every opa, this is a problem that has a solution. Talking to German posters pre-invasion (who are assumedly on the liberal/left side as this is SA) there seemed to be a strange conviction that Russian gas was Germany thinking for itself and any talk about it being a bad idea given how aggressive Putin was (albeit mainly through hackers and subversion at that point) was an American plot to increase gas profits and satellite Germany completely.
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How are u posted:I genuinely find them to be beautiful They're not so beautiful when there's hundreds and hundreds of them covering what used to be untouched, pristine nature.
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Kaal posted:I mean if Germany intentionally poisoned every one of its reactors with boric acid, then yeah they hosed themselves and would need to build new facilities. But Habeck is already talking about reactivating the ones they shuttered this year, so at the very least that would be another 30 TWh of returned capacity. Realistically though, this is an issue that Germany has been building for themselves ever since they pulled the plug on six new reactors under construction in 1990 in order to burn more coal and gas. It's going to be a little painful to undo. Half of Germany uses gas for heating, and yet Germany has persistently refused to build LNG terminals or connect fuel pipelines to any source but Russia. That was dumb and everyone knew it. But frankly even if they need to buy a space heater for every opa, this is a problem that has a solution. How did the Germans get away with this for so long? Like this entire policy seems utterly boneheaded. It's one thing when you're trying to build wind turbines and nuclear plants and unable to meet your demand/practicality so you resort to natural gas and coal as a stopgap. But what I'm seeing here is a total hostility towards all forms of non-fossil fuel energy in a way that makes me think the German government is criminally complicit. The poo poo a seemingly "Centrist" or "Centre Right" government has done in Germany is the stuff of fever dreams for a GOP run America.
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Phlegmish posted:All of these withdrawals have to be severely impacting the average Russian at this point. I’d love to hear more current reports about how life is changing for the average Russian
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TheRat posted:They're not so beautiful when there's hundreds and hundreds of them covering what used to be untouched, pristine nature.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:How do you heat gas heated homes without gas? That's...a good point.
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TheRat posted:They're not so beautiful when there's hundreds and hundreds of them covering what used to be untouched, pristine nature. There's no perfect power sources, just ones that are objectively less bad. When the alternative is coal and gas, bring on that hum and dead birds.
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Phlegmish posted:All of these withdrawals have to be severely impacting the average Russian at this point. Yeah we've been pretty successful at establishing a collective punishment regime against the average Russian. Even worse, as energy and grain prices continue to rise, that punishment seems likely to extend to much of the rest of the world too. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Mar 8, 2022 |
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How are u posted:I genuinely find them to be beautiful Same, honestly. They're sleek and elegant in a minimalistic way.
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Nessus posted:Are there many areas in Europe that are, at this point, genuinely untouched/pristine by human effort going back, let's say, to the early modern period? Norway has a lot of it, including large areas that belong to reindeer that is slowly being consumed by foreign owned wind farms
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TheRat posted:They're not so beautiful when there's hundreds and hundreds of them covering what used to be untouched, pristine nature. Well they're a no-fuss way to take care of all the birds, so comme ci, comme ça
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Nessus posted:Are there many areas in Europe that are, at this point, genuinely untouched/pristine by human effort going back, let's say, to the early modern period? Real answer, probably not! Humans are incredibly good at modifying the environment and can do so in super subtle ways that build up over time and result in a new normal. It's why that phrasing is getting somewhat phased out in American archaeology.
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Phlegmish posted:Same, honestly. They're sleek and elegant in a minimalistic way. Greeks loving hate them and complain about nature being destroyed but they're almost exclusively placed on lovely bald mountains that are as dry as the Sahara because we've already burned down all our forests to build villas.
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Kraftwerk posted:How did the Germans get away with this for so long? Like this entire policy seems utterly boneheaded. They are conservatives. In Bavaria you can't build a wind turbine closer than 10 times its height to any kind of settlement. Look at a map of Bavaria and you may notice a problem. There are similar laws blocking solar, nuclear, gas, coal, and transmission lines. I bet they have one for geothermal as well.
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Kraftwerk posted:It's one thing when you're trying to build wind turbines and nuclear plants and unable to meet your demand/practicality so you resort to natural gas and coal as a stopgap. But what I'm seeing here is a total hostility towards all forms of non-fossil fuel energy in a way that makes me think the German government is criminally complicit. The poo poo a seemingly "Centrist" or "Centre Right" government has done in Germany is the stuff of fever dreams for a GOP run America. Gerhard Schröder carried a Social Democratic party card. I am not sure he belongs anywhere on a political axis, but in principle he led a 'left-wing' government. I think the Greens were part of his government at one point.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:How do you heat gas heated homes without gas? hillaryous clinton posted:That's...a good point. You plug the electrical oven into the socket, these aren't steampunk houses.
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Madkal posted:According to Google translate the "me sowing/me reaping" meme translates to: Taking a beautiful joke and ruining it by translating it into the driest language on earth. No color to that How are u posted:I genuinely find them to be beautiful Same, although partially just because of what they represent (hope, however slim).
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Phlegmish posted:Might have been posted already, but Unilever and L'Oreal now also pulling back from Russia: Globally just about everyone's long since switched to just in time delivery rather than warehousing like in the old days, right? So it's not like stores are going to be sitting on a massive stockpile of conditioner or Adidas to cover shortfalls in stock.
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Antigravitas posted:They are conservatives.
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BoldFace posted:Wind turbines are really ugly. 
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TheRat posted:And large areas of your untouched wilds. And leave a constant, torturing hum. And gently caress over reindeer pastures. But enough about coal  They also distract school children and attract Spanish romantics.
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Sinteres posted:Yeah we've been pretty successful at establishing a collective punishment regime against the average Russian. Even worse, as energy and grain prices continue to rise, that punishment seems likely to extend to much of the rest of the world too. It's unfortunate that regular citizens are suffering, but if they even theoretically affect Russia's ability to wage war, the sanctions are worth it. Putin getting removed from power is too much to hope for, unfortunately
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Dante posted:You plug the electrical oven into the socket, these aren't steampunk houses. And then your grid collapses because it wasn't made for that scale?
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Polish military hardware chat: domestic tank was shelved due to cost. Then we got some Leopards from Germany, which meant phasing older Soviet stuff, and slowly doing the same to domestic PT-91. Then someone from gov has decided to get Abrams, theories vary from mental illness, their best reenactment of "client state slave attitude", or bribes. There was NO official process involved, military one day found out they will have some Abrams delivered. Enjoy organising logistical chain, and trying to feed that beast. At least with F-16 Block 52+ it was a regular purchasing process going, and picking them over Gripens, Rafales or F-18 had some solid reasons.
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Nessus posted:Where does Bavaria expect electricity to come from? A generous tribute from those down the mountain? Electricity is something many of us take for granted. It's not unusual or surprising that many people don't care or don't have a nuanced view of the long term effects of certain policy decisions. Nuclear is easily demonized and a lot of people have a material interest in selling LNG as "clean" because it has lower emissions. Germany are in a big pickle right now, but they're not in a unique situation generally. This has been happening in the US too.
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TheRat posted:And then your grid collapses because it wasn't made for that scale? Just keep replacing reindeer on frøya with turbines until the lights stay on
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I feel like if your criticism of something that could help people is "it isn't aesthetically pleasing enough" it probably can be ignored.
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PerilPastry posted:Globally just about everyone's long since switched to just in time delivery rather than warehousing like in the old days, right? So it's not like stores are going to be sitting on a massive stockpile of conditioner or Adidas to cover shortfalls in stock. That's a good point, we should be seeing the effects fairly quickly. Like Snowy I'd also like to get some sort of glance at how life has changed for Russians already
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Phlegmish posted:It's unfortunate that regular citizens are suffering, but if they even theoretically affect Russia's ability to wage war, the sanctions are worth it. I don't think causing people in poor countries to starve to "even theoretically" help people in Europe is a good trade, but it's completely unsurprising that elites in the global North feel that way.
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steinrokkan posted:Whatever happened to that invisible Polish tank Two battalions are holding Kyiv. Alan Smithee posted:poo poo i'd buy a KA-52 for that price. That’s running in parallel, and pays much less.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Talking to German posters pre-invasion (who are assumedly on the liberal/left side as this is SA) there seemed to be a strange conviction that Russian gas was Germany thinking for itself and any talk about it being a bad idea given how aggressive Putin was (albeit mainly through hackers and subversion at that point) was an American plot to increase gas profits and satellite Germany completely. Kraftwerk posted:How did the Germans get away with this for so long? Like this entire policy seems utterly boneheaded. It's one thing when you're trying to build wind turbines and nuclear plants and unable to meet your demand/practicality so you resort to natural gas and coal as a stopgap. But what I'm seeing here is a total hostility towards all forms of non-fossil fuel energy in a way that makes me think the German government is criminally complicit. The poo poo a seemingly "Centrist" or "Centre Right" government has done in Germany is the stuff of fever dreams for a GOP run America. I think that a lot of it really comes down to two elements: The country as a whole has seen the Russian fossil fuel reliance as a good thing that prevents wars (particularly in Eastern Germany where the pipelines were overwhelmingly popular), and there's a lot of resistance against nuclear power specifically where it's seen as the worst possible energy source. The twin sentiments are promoted by different parts of the population, but combined into an enduring policy of importing massive amounts of cheap energy (particularly from Russia, but also from other countries including the US, Australia, and China) and calling that progress.
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Snowy posted:I’d love to hear more current reports about how life is changing for the average Russian Hmm. I wonder if I should reinstall Telegram.
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