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Cracks continue, this time on Kremlin TV https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1501953203029618689?t=svOQPm9k6-_wC0lnYBpBPw&s=19 It's a really good read, p much a transcript of a hypernationalist TV host forcibly encountering reality via his more realistic guests Article: https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-russias-state-tv-admits-ukraine-disaster-has-putin-in-trouble Thankfully Tucker Carlson provided some solace quote:To lighten the mood in the studio, the host resorted to one of the favorite pastimes of many Kremlin propagandists: playing yet another Fox News clip of Tucker Carlson and his frequent guest Ret. Col. Doug Macgregor. In the translated video, Macgregor predicted Russia’s easy military victories over Ukraine and its total invincibility to western sanctions. Soloviev sighed and smiled: “He’s a lot more optimistic than my previous experts in the studio.”
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Relevant Tangent posted:They watched that live, same as everyone else. He wanted them to know, because he is a Duginist. Is stupid. And there is a time honored technique on this topic: Lie about it and do it anyway, later.
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KitConstantine posted:Cracks continue, this time on Kremlin TV This is fascinating. I wonder if anyone's going to be arrested over this. I know the owner's a Putin pal, but honestly this is pretty instructive as to probably the elites probably feel right now.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. Clausewitz hits it again. I know we talked about this yesterday but Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ilhan Ohmar agreeing on anything is batshit.
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Mar 10, 2022 18:01
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Uh oh https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1501958391824011267?t=r14nGft11YgB73XQ7SZloQ&s=19 (Unverified) UH OH https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1501958469313875969?t=D4-VrjSOsSKWumGGK-96zA&s=19
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KitConstantine posted:Cracks continue, this time on Kremlin TV But on the flip side: https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1501956318646525962?cxt=HHwWlICjkY3UgtgpAAAA
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the popes toes posted:Pretty good stuff, almost hope inducing. How did it work before? This sounds like how every other military draft system works. The_Franz fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Mar 10, 2022 |
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the popes toes posted:Pretty good stuff, almost hope inducing. Seems like a thing you'd do if you're not planning on sending conscripts to Ukraine
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https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1501966399098470412 1000! 
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the popes toes posted:But on the flip side: That's how it's worked in Norway for as long as I know at least.
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KitConstantine posted:Odesa is less hard hit than other cities, though bombing has been ramping up in recent days. Reports from Odesa: This reminds me how the news orgs early last month were all running these comical interviews with random Ukrainians. "Hmmm, the leader of the most expansive intelligence organization in the history of the world thinks war is on the horizon, let's check in with Oleg and Svetlana down at the market to see whether they think he's right!" Folks here were eating that up.
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ik edit:  Bayraktar vs. Buk. Explosion in video. https://mobile.twitter.com/Arslon_Xudosi/status/1501887889478717442 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 10, 2022 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. Clausewitz hits it again.  "Everything is very simple in war, but the simplest thing is difficult. These difficulties accumulate and produce a friction, which no man can imagine exactly who has not seen war."
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https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1501967750855634944?s=20&t=D6Z2RrBIh1BZBC6TfFZi1Q Where the hell are they parking all this stuff?!
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Russia hasn’t even gotten to the hard part of a modern occupation war.
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CommieGIR posted:
Maybe some is in this loving TANK FACTORY thats still standing even after Russians have been bombing the city for DAYS https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1501962332603363330?t=_Sv2rXx8t3dGPLoxKX8qWg&s=19
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This is 1000 armored vehicles of some description, right?
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Confirming UA has working tank factory doesn't sound like a smart move..
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On The Media put out a breaking news consumer's handbook on Ukraine. None of it's surprising for folks like us who have been mainlining this stuff for weeks, but it's interesting to compare it to their other "handbooks". https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/breaking-news-consumers-handbook-ukraine-edition-on-the-media 
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Mar 10, 2022 18:24
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I wonder what the dollar value might be? I'd be interested in a "they sent *dollar* value to Ukraine" and it is being stalled by *dollar* value materiel analysis. I'm sure someone is doing it somewhere.
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Sashimi posted:This is 1000 armored vehicles of some description, right? Engineering/personell/armored vehicles, artillery, missles/manpads/rocket launchers, communications/radars/jammers, aircraft/UAVs/helicopters, military equipment bigger than "gun/javelin" basically. Link to the list: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html?m=1 And this pristine, in-box UAV will be added there soon enough https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1501957170157568011?t=Cqv79AHTs-3hpBvqOY-FdQ&s=19
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1501967750855634944?s=20&t=D6Z2RrBIh1BZBC6TfFZi1Q ukraine is requesting NATO send valet attendants, repeat, valet attendants.
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Deviant posted:ukraine is requesting NATO send valet attendants, repeat, valet attendants. "Please remember what lot you parked your SAM system in and don't lose your ticket."
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alex314 posted:Confirming UA has working tank factory doesn't sound like a smart move.. eh, russia should already know where it is and if it was blown up or not this isn't really a total war, destroying your enemy's ability to make vehicles shouldn't matter if you plan on the war being over quickly. hitting things of immediate military value is more important than blowing up things which are useful on a longer timeframe
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alex314 posted:Confirming UA has working tank factory doesn't sound like a smart move.. Yeah a lot of these tweets are kind of mind-blowing in the "why in the world would you even post this on social media???" sense. Not too familiar with drones, but that Bayraktar tweet above, the comments suggest that it's 6km from the target. How easily do these get shot down? Can infantry AA take them out? It just seems like it's shooting fish in a barrel.
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I'm the Ukrainian farmer keeping an SPG in my back yard in case of stray conscripts
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Rust Martialis posted:ik edit: Some of them are saying it's a decoy. I dunno, would a decoy explode like that or is that just the warhead? Henrik Zetterberg posted:Yeah a lot of these tweets are kind of mind-blowing in the "why in the world would you even post this on social media???" sense.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I'm the Ukrainian farmer keeping an SPG in my back yard in case of stray conscripts "Its planting season" *warms up the MLRS system*
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mobby_6kl posted:Some of them are saying it's a decoy. I dunno, would a decoy explode like that or is that just the warhead? If it was a decoy, what would be the point? Seems like a lot of effort in order to negate one drone missile.
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CommieGIR posted:"Its planting season" *warms up the MLRS system* Stalins spreading the seeds of peace
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Nessus posted:I am legitimately curious what part of Duginism is "telling the people who you are about to invade that you're deadly serious and will absolutely be purging them and at the very least demolishing and more likely striving to annihilate their culture," because it seems like telling a fairly large country that you are about to invade, to their face, that you're going to do that... Duginism is dumb because it believes in a national soul, and because it believes in a national soul it believes that Ukrainians are Russian in some intangible soulish way. Half-baked mystic ethnonationalism.
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So..what exactly is the Russian endgame here? "Drop VDV watch them die, fail to resupply our troops, bomb and shell cities and only harden resistance, get picked off by drones, faff about until we run out of gas and freeze to death"? Like, what is the actual strategy for even capturing one of these major cities, and then occupying it, let alone the whole loving country
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Kraftwerk posted:They'd still take unacceptable casualties, lose unacceptable swaths of territory that make up the core identity of their country and would be set back decades even if they do repel the Russians. They simply aren't prepared and would not be able to resist without substantial reinforcements from the bigger less than 2% GDP countries who are skating by expecting other nations to take the fall for them. For a country like Poland or Latvia, 2% isn't enough, they alone would not be able to discourage significant territorial loss to the Russians without a bigger threat of a fully revitalized Luftwaffe or Armee De L'Aire relieving them. This is pretty much what everyone thought would be the case with Ukraine. Kraftwerk posted:No one NATO country is big enough or rich enough to fund the kind of army required to defeat Russia or at least keep Russia from invading in the first place. That requires the entire NATO alliance to pool their resources and build things like a US-Parity airforce that can perform SEAD, and gain air supremacy. They still need to significantly increase their funding and recruitment efforts. They just don't need to do it to the extreme degree they thought they would have before this invasion. But they need enough for force projection, heavy airlift capability, air superiority and the ability to stockpile large amounts of precision munitions for the wholesale mass destruction of troop columns. The US could curb stomp Russia all on its own without NATO. The US military is already more than able to do this. Could they occupy Russia? Maybe not, but they sure could steamroll the place and leave. Additionally the rest of NATO without the US would also curb stop Russia. Full stop. Putin is fully aware of this. That's why he is so terrified of NATO gaining any new members. Once a country joins NATO he can't overtly gently caress with them any more.
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"You get an antitank weapon! YOU get an antitank weapon! EVERYONE GETS ANTITANK WEAPONS!!!" https://twitter.com/historicfirearm/status/1501970372232630272?t=ursIS5S9X6DMQjDJCEwU-w&s=19  There's video of this, but I chose the thread with stills. @osinttechnical on Twitter has it on his feed.
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High-level official Lithuanian trolling. It's like someone slapping a new avatar on you, but 10 bucks ain't going to cut it. https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1501952801995247620?cxt=HHwWiMCihbSHgdgpAAAA 
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TulliusCicero posted:So..what exactly is the Russian endgame here? think it is probably starting to dawn on the russians that they aren't going to be able to capture the cities without taking unacceptable losses. i am guessing at this point they just shell them to keep pressure on ukraine to sign a more favorable deal
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the popes toes posted:I wonder what the dollar value might be? I'd be interested in a "they sent *dollar* value to Ukraine" and it is being stalled by *dollar* value materiel analysis. I'm sure someone is doing it somewhere. tbf repurposed russian vehicles is going to make this number look lower than it is $X in tanks are being stalled by $Y in Javelins and also $X in tanks towed by tractors
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the popes toes posted:High-level official Lithuanian trolling. It's like someone slapping a new avatar on you, but 10 bucks ain't going to cut it. They're having lots of fun in Vilnius https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1501854491972407303?t=E1v6S1BLna1TNgTtWmFiPQ&s=19
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TulliusCicero posted:So..what exactly is the Russian endgame here? the most logical plan when this whole thing started was to slide into kyiv asap to kill, capture, or run off the ukrainian government and replace it with a puppet regime that would agree to russian demands, most likely formal control over luhansk/donbass and decentralization of ukraine to make it easier to peel off oblasts later as necessary. there were a lot of upsides to russia, from more profit capture over the energy trade to europe to a pliable client state and permanent banishment of NATO all that is out the window now because the longer ukraine resists, the better their bargaining position becomes, and russia's only recourse now is to be so insanely violent towards civilians that ukraine is compelled to end the war on humanitarian reasons
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