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AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
I tried to read Sten, I don't know why, and quit not long in to the first book because the adult (20 something?) main character just sealed the deal with the ultra beautiful 15 year old.

Just like, no thanx.

Going to pivot and try Species Imperative myself :hai:

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Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Re audiobooks, I just grabbed the Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley, mostly as I like what I've read of hers so far (The Stars are Legion was the right kind of weird for me). But also the audiobook is read by Cara Gee, who played Drummer on the Expanse, which I'm even more excited about.

So that all might check your boxes. It sounds a bit mil SF though, but I have a feeling it's not going to be hoorah type stuff.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

AARD VARKMAN posted:

I tried to read Sten, I don't know why, and quit not long in to the first book because the adult (20 something?) main character just sealed the deal with the ultra beautiful 15 year old.

Just like, no thanx.

Going to pivot and try Species Imperative myself :hai:

Sten the 1980's space military scifi series? I've had the first book on a shelf since I was like 13, never got around to reading it.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

I'm looking for a book or series about space colonization/space travel kind of stuff. I really enjoyed Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy and Aurora, and was looking for something along those lines. What all do you folks recommend?

I tried the expanse series a couple of years ago but they never really clicked for me.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




GreenBuckanneer posted:

I have a bunch of choices of audiobooks to listen to but I want a bit of direction

1. I want a scifi novel.
2. it can't be military hoo-rah scifi
3. it should be kind of weird or maybe not super typical, like, noir but scifi?
4. maybe written by someone who isn't male

Perhaps something that is campy, and firefly esque, with future tech that does cool thing but they're still struggling with something, whether that's Big Bad Ancient Thing or Big Bad Corporate Guy or whatever doesn't matter too much

The narration for Gideon the Ninth is top notch.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Hypnolobster posted:

Sten the 1980's space military scifi series? I've had the first book on a shelf since I was like 13, never got around to reading it.

Yup. I'm guessing it evolves in to a Space Revenge Thriller after the point I quit but the 1980s are way too recent for me to stomach and get past the main character getting with a 15 year old in the first few chapters of the book.

The Sweet Hereafter
Jan 11, 2010
Not sure if this is of any use/interest to anyone ITT but I thought I'd share it in case:

https://twitter.com/elizaswift/status/1502667492585623553?t=mxDPmkSNE2ATcyHdeDha9w&s=19

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
I'm curious if we're going to start seeing traditional publishers taking chances on stuff in the progression fantasy space soon. The Cradle Kickstarter is at $450k. I feel like it'd be short sighted not to at this point.

a friendly penguin
Feb 1, 2007

trolling for fish

Bayham Badger posted:

Re audiobooks, I just grabbed the Light Brigade by Kameron Hurley, mostly as I like what I've read of hers so far (The Stars are Legion was the right kind of weird for me). But also the audiobook is read by Cara Gee, who played Drummer on the Expanse, which I'm even more excited about.

So that all might check your boxes. It sounds a bit mil SF though, but I have a feeling it's not going to be hoorah type stuff.

Kate Reading is my favorite audiobook reader but I've mostly heard her read fantasy. Her work on Marie Brennan's Natural History of Dragons series was superb.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

The Sweet Hereafter posted:

Not sure if this is of any use/interest to anyone ITT but I thought I'd share it in case:

https://twitter.com/elizaswift/status/1502667492585623553?t=mxDPmkSNE2ATcyHdeDha9w&s=19
I have no training but I do have atrocious reading habits and it grates on me every time a royalroad fic misuses an apostrophe, clearly this is my dream job

(I'm actually amazed anyone's hiring for that expertise, not because it's not a zeitgeist but because it seems like there'd be so much competition that's shittier but released for free that I'm amazed anyone'd pay money for good stuff)

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Fivemarks posted:

I have a confession to make: I used to, as a teenager, like Peter F Hamilton's Commonwealth books.

Who gives a gently caress.
We have an entire thread devoted to WH/WH40k books and another for LitRPG who regularly gets mentioned in this thread, so believing this thread discusses high literature is kinda interesting.

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I have a bunch of choices of audiobooks to listen to but I want a bit of direction

1. I want a scifi novel.
2. it can't be military hoo-rah scifi
3. it should be kind of weird or maybe not super typical, like, noir but scifi?
4. maybe written by someone who isn't male

Perhaps something that is campy, and firefly esque, with future tech that does cool thing but they're still struggling with something, whether that's Big Bad Ancient Thing or Big Bad Corporate Guy or whatever doesn't matter too much

Try This is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone. It's bonkers time travel, so hells of sci-fi. It's about two soldiers, but in no way hoo-rah. It's an epistolary novel, so definitely not typical sci-fi. And one of its authors is a woman.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Cardiac posted:

Who gives a gently caress.
We have an entire thread devoted to WH/WH40k books and another for LitRPG who regularly gets mentioned in this thread, so believing this thread discusses high literature is kinda interesting.
I think the guilt was more about how much of a pedophile creepazoid the guy is.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


PeterWeller posted:

Try This is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone. It's bonkers time travel, so hells of sci-fi. It's about two soldiers, but in no way hoo-rah. It's an epistolary novel, so definitely not typical sci-fi. And one of its authors is a woman.

Speaking of Max Gladstone, I'm about 60% of the way through Last Exit, his new novel, and I think it genuinely might be the best thing he's ever written solo. It's a weird, dark road trip novel across a bunch of alternate-world dead Americas—a bit American Gods, a bit David Lynch—and (at this point, I suppose it could still poo poo the bed before it ends), I definitely recommend it.

cptn_dr fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 12, 2022

Happiness Commando
Feb 1, 2002
$$ joy at gunpoint $$

DACK FAYDEN posted:

I have no training but I do have atrocious reading habits and it grates on me every time a royalroad fic misuses an apostrophe, clearly this is my dream job
I read something recently where a character kept knocking arrows (in their bow, not out of the air) and I couldn't stand it.

Didn't make me stop reading, though.

Danhenge
Dec 16, 2005

cptn_dr posted:

Speaking of Max Gladstone, I'm about 60% of the way through Last Exit, his new novel, and I think it genuinely might be the best thing he's ever written solo. It's a weird, dark road trip novel across a bunch of alternate-world dead Americas—a bit American Gods, a bit David Lynch—and (at this point, I suppose it could still poo poo the bed before it ends), I definitely recommend it.

Are you a beta reader? It comes out in May.

edit: nevermind somehow refreshing made it appear as March? Weird.

edit 2: It's got some sort of dead listing here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HJC63WQ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 but if I click on either the kindle or the paperback version it shows up as available. Weird.

Danhenge fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Mar 12, 2022

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Danhenge posted:

Are you a beta reader? It comes out in May.

Are you in Australia or New Zealand by any chance? Because I think we only get it in May, but I used my US Amazon account to grab the Kindle edition.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

The Sweet Hereafter posted:

Not sure if this is of any use/interest to anyone ITT but I thought I'd share it in case:

https://twitter.com/elizaswift/status/1502667492585623553?t=mxDPmkSNE2ATcyHdeDha9w&s=19

A company reached out to offer me a position like this a few years ago and they'd collapsed within about a year and I'm not sure any of their big IP deals actually made it into the wild. Because...

DACK FAYDEN posted:

(I'm actually amazed anyone's hiring for that expertise, not because it's not a zeitgeist but because it seems like there'd be so much competition that's shittier but released for free that I'm amazed anyone'd pay money for good stuff)

This.

edit: Oh, it's Webtoon, the company that bought Wattpad. They're probably in as good a position as any to try and monetize this stuff but, yeah, no one seems to have cracked it just yet. And what does a platform like Webtoon have to offer to the big web fiction earners who are making like 20k a month on Patreon? I imagine Webtoon might run into the same issue as the other companies I'm aware of have -- the audience doesn't care about the quality, so, establishing a whole editorial department is just burning money. And, of course, the usual caveats about these big sites where they pay their creators very little, inflate views and likes, etc. etc.

Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Mar 13, 2022

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

AARD VARKMAN posted:

Yup. I'm guessing it evolves in to a Space Revenge Thriller after the point I quit but the 1980s are way too recent for me to stomach and get past the main character getting with a 15 year old in the first few chapters of the book.

Kind of, but the Sten series isn't so much a series as a really large novel/story told in eight books. Also I don't remember a 15 year old in terms of specific age, but it's been a long while since I read that specific book. From what I recall Sten and the girl in question were around the same general age/maturity level. IIRC Sten is a teenager 14-17 when his family is killed and he "gets" to take over their company debt.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Lex Talionis posted:

As a side note, a year ago or so, Kate Elliot published book 1 of a space opera take on a gender-swapped Alexander the Great's childhood and I thought it was great, like someone found an unpublished Peter F Hamilton manuscript and edited out all of the unnecessary and somewhat problematic sex, leaving a cool, widescreen space opera that's long but not doorstoppy. Hope she puts out some sequels soon.

That sounds extremely my jam, which series was it ?

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

mllaneza posted:

That sounds extremely my jam, which series was it ?

unconquerable sun is the name of the book

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I think the guilt was more about how much of a pedophile creepazoid the guy is.

I... What? I haven't been able to finish my Hamilton books yet and what's this about?

ianmacdo
Oct 30, 2012

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I... What? I haven't been able to finish my Hamilton books yet and what's this about?

Nothing about him in real life that I know of. Just in his earlier books he away has barely legal teens hooking up with older men.
His latest series doesn't have this problem.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
He's just terminally English.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I have a bunch of choices of audiobooks to listen to but I want a bit of direction

1. I want a scifi novel.
2. it can't be military hoo-rah scifi
3. it should be kind of weird or maybe not super typical, like, noir but scifi?
4. maybe written by someone who isn't male

Perhaps something that is campy, and firefly esque, with future tech that does cool thing but they're still struggling with something, whether that's Big Bad Ancient Thing or Big Bad Corporate Guy or whatever doesn't matter too much

So You Had To Build A Time Machine by Jason Offutt is pretty good. Haven't listened to the audio book but I did read the novel.

The Fold by Peter Clines is neat.

Currently reading The Void by Brett Talley. Dunno if there's an audio book but it's most definitely a weird poo poo happening in space book. At least so far.

The Broken Room (also by Clines) is good. It's not hoorah with the military stuff but one of the protags is a retired secret agent kinda guy. I kinda pictured him as looking like Pedro Pascal. It's definitely weird. Fun, and gross, but weird. There may be an audio book coming out for it soon.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


cptn_dr posted:

Speaking of Max Gladstone, I'm about 60% of the way through Last Exit, his new novel, and I think it genuinely might be the best thing he's ever written solo. It's a weird, dark road trip novel across a bunch of alternate-world dead Americas—a bit American Gods, a bit David Lynch—and (at this point, I suppose it could still poo poo the bed before it ends), I definitely recommend it.

Finished Last Exit just now, and it's a strong early contender for my favourite book of the year. One of the best things I've read in a long time.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

ianmacdo posted:

Nothing about him in real life that I know of. Just in his earlier books he away has barely legal teens hooking up with older men.

Peter F. Hamilton posted:

Thérèse was tall for thirteen, skinny, with breasts that had been pushed into maturity by a course of tailored growth hormones. Long raven hair, brown eyes, and a pretty, juvenile face with just the right amount of cuteness; everybody’s girl next door. She was wearing black leather shorts to show off her tight little arse, and her breasts were almost falling out of a scarlet halter top. Her pose was indolent, chewing at her gum, one hand on her hip.

Lex Talionis
Feb 6, 2011

Doctor Jeep posted:

unconquerable sun is the name of the book

Kate Elliot posted:

Book 2, Furious Heaven, arrives in Winter 2023 (no set date yet, but it’s written and ready to go).
But I mainly posted this to comment I just don't understand why publishers take so goddamn long to publish books in series like this. It's one thing if you're waiting for a Martin or Rothfuss to write the drat thing, or if it's a debut author without a following, or even book 1 of a new series from a midlist author like Elliot. But when it's book 2, kind of a hard sell to begin with, it seems like the sooner you get it out there the more likely people who read book 1 still remember they liked it, and the more likely others will see it and then buy book 1. We know they can publish books quickly, because they do it for people like Sanderson.

I've heard some real horror stories from midlist authors about how inattentive editors are at the big houses, so I guess the answer must be that if you're not at the top of the popularity power law, it's not going to sell that much anyway and the publishers can barely be bothered to publish it at all, so they just put it in the first open spot on their schedule and stop thinking about it.

HaitianDivorce
Jul 29, 2012
I just finished Tade Thompson's Far from the Light of Heaven and it feels like an example of a story that's less than the sum of its parts. The Afro-futurist setting is cool, the aliens that are actually the spirits of the dead back to mankind's first sentient ancestor are cool, the pacing really ramps up through the middle third of the book as the situation spirals out of control, but man, it just does not stick the landing. The conclusion just feels so mudded (I guess part of it is sequel bait?) and there's never a point when any of the characters actually have to make a hard choice or struggle with their own interiority. For as high-falutin' as the title is, it feels less like a gaze into despair and more like one space captain's really bad day on the job.

Would more of Thompson's stuff be worth checking out if I come across it? Or is more stuff from him just not going to be to my taste?

Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015

Sham bam bamina! posted:

REDACTED because AUGH

And this is why I'm sorry that I ever liked Hamilton.

The Sweet Hereafter
Jan 11, 2010

Lex Talionis posted:

I've heard some real horror stories from midlist authors about how inattentive editors are at the big houses, so I guess the answer must be that if you're not at the top of the popularity power law, it's not going to sell that much anyway and the publishers can barely be bothered to publish it at all, so they just put it in the first open spot on their schedule and stop thinking about it.

Silvia Moreno-Garcia just posted a Twitter thread touching on some of this.

https://twitter.com/silviamg/status/1503044363051446273?t=bk6sZ2J67xIfwIWmYS3EDg&s=19

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Mar 31, 2009

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Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon

HaitianDivorce posted:

Would more of Thompson's stuff be worth checking out if I come across it? Or is more stuff from him just not going to be to my taste?

His Rosewater books are much better and have a satisfying conclusion within the trilogy. Light of Heaven kinda felt like something lesser that he also had lying around that got published because of the success of the Rosewater books unfortunately.

Danhenge
Dec 16, 2005

cptn_dr posted:

Finished Last Exit just now, and it's a strong early contender for my favourite book of the year. One of the best things I've read in a long time.

I'm 20% of the way through and it seems likely this book is going to make me cry at least once.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
e: nm

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007


This is already on the plan, I started Autonomous the other day

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

GreenBuckanneer posted:

I have a bunch of choices of audiobooks to listen to but I want a bit of direction

1. I want a scifi novel.
2. it can't be military hoo-rah scifi
3. it should be kind of weird or maybe not super typical, like, noir but scifi?
4. maybe written by someone who isn't male

Perhaps something that is campy, and firefly esque, with future tech that does cool thing but they're still struggling with something, whether that's Big Bad Ancient Thing or Big Bad Corporate Guy or whatever doesn't matter too much

Kameron Hurley is already mentioned but the series I'd recommend is bel Dame apocrypha.

Bounty hunter on a matriarchal planet that uses bio sciences and almost all life forms are insect derived. The planets inhabitants are unable to leave.

It's pretty dark but also fun and horrible all at the same time.

Some big bad stuff, some small time PI bounty hunter makes mistakes.

I'd read the main ones and if you like backfill on the short stories
https://www.goodreads.com/series/66722-bel-dame-apocrypha

branedotorg fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 13, 2022

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Everyone posted:

Kind of, but the Sten series isn't so much a series as a really large novel/story told in eight books. Also I don't remember a 15 year old in terms of specific age, but it's been a long while since I read that specific book. From what I recall Sten and the girl in question were around the same general age/maturity level. IIRC Sten is a teenager 14-17 when his family is killed and he "gets" to take over their company debt.

I very well could have misinterpreted his age, it was very specific with hers though. The real nail in the coffin of my interest there was the scene (immediately after the sex?) discussing how she was the only one in her age group not on sexual development blockers, I figured between those two things the book wasn't going in a direction I liked lol

e: ill grant this might be an overreaction to a brief scene in a book, but i have too many damned other things to read :colbert:

AARD VARKMAN fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 13, 2022

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moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames

GreenBuckanneer posted:

This is already on the plan, I started Autonomous the other day

this book was so bad within the first few pages that i put it down immediately, hope your experience is better

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