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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I'm not trying to be islamophobic. It's just that Russia is hella anti Islam so much so that they released refugees in Lithuania to destabilize things as part of a racist narrative. And actively curb any non chech islamist movement in the country. So for them to utilize mercs, who are most likely sunnis is insane and shows they are completely full of poo poo. They're actually very very likely to not be Sunni if they're Assad regime loyalists, not that it matters anyway?
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Nessus posted:While I am sure Putin has no specific love for Muslims I have heard he has always been curiously quiet and gentle about Islamic issues in Russia (probably since it's the second largest faith after Russian Orthodoxy and has strong regional concentrations) compared to how people talk about that poo poo in the West. It’s a part of gentleman’s agreement with Kadyrov.
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Young Freud posted:Yet. Why would he? Dude has been front and center of other stuff that got Americans killed without consequence.
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https://nltimes.nl/2022/03/13/russian-priests-amsterdam-leave-moscow-patriarchatequote:Russian priests in Amsterdam leave Moscow Patriarchate Are there other priests leaving the Moscow Patriarchate? This is the first I have heard of.
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Nessus posted:While I am sure Putin has no specific love for Muslims I have heard he has always been curiously quiet and gentle about Islamic issues in Russia (probably since it's the second largest faith after Russian Orthodoxy and has strong regional concentrations) compared to how people talk about that poo poo in the West. I'm sure being more vocal about domestic issues with respect to Russian Muslims would make his machinations in the Middle East much trickier to pull off.
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It seems like there air raid sirens across a lot of territories tonight. ~19 posted to https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1503173386704506883
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:https://nltimes.nl/2022/03/13/russian-priests-amsterdam-leave-moscow-patriarchate Can't speak about the Moscow Patriarchate, because the Romanian church is independent, but we have the world's 3rd largest Eastern Orthodox population after Russia and Ukraine. A week ago, the Romanian Patriarch took a hard stance against the war, calling it "a war started by Russia against an independent state". Then they doubled down and said that Moscow’s Orthodox Patriarch Kiril is “an opulent, patriarch who has resigned from moral and Christian principles through his cynical complicity with the assassin politician and by his association with the most hideous things that the antichrist, who mimics faith in God and patriotism, is capable of committing with atrocity.” Local priests have played a major role in receiving and helping Ukrainian refugees at the border. I rarely have anything good to say about the Romanian church, but in this case they made a good showing.
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This was linked on Twitter as a really good explanation of the exact effects of a nuclear weapon. It's a BBC documentary episode from 1982 called 'Q.E.D - A Guide to Armageddon - Nuclear War Documentary'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJttnC8PoA It watches like a horror movie. Very well done, but I'm having to take breaks to get through it. It's from 1982, so nothing gory with special effects other than some makeup burns, but the subject matter is intense. Edit: To make this on topic and not just depressing, have the extreme copium thread of a scholar in Moscow. I was reading this as he posted and it's absolutely astounding. https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1503152242744045568?s=20&t=m60QT4StSD-v6WkTIP9QYQ KitConstantine fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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Murderous thugs https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1503083214025465861?s=20&t=mofE-BlCepeNh9nzGIEzNw
Soldiers shot randomly at buildings, threw grenades down roads and went from house to house confiscating phones and laptops, witnesses said. Online groups created for family members or friends looking for information about people in affected areas are receiving hundreds or even thousands of requests a day. One witness, Mykola, described how soldiers arrived in Andriivka, a village near Kyiv. “They threw grenades down the street. One man lost his leg and the next day this person died,” he said. “They then came down the central street and started shooting at the windows and hit one woman. Her children managed to hide.” Mykola lived within walking distance of his brother, Dymtro. “My brother came out the house with his hands in the air. They beat him and then executed him in the street,” he said. Dymtro’s wife said she saw the killing of her husband from a window. She said she also witnessed their neighbour being killed in the same manner. Dymtro’s daughter believes both were shot because they had earlier helped the Ukrainian army as volunteers.
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Rinkles posted:Murderous thugs
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Kraftwerk posted:I don’t understand. Where are the armed partisans. Why isn’t anyone shooting back? Ukraine is not America, there are not 2.3 billion guns per child.
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Young Freud posted:Melitopol is the way station before the Russian army's supply lines go onto Mariupol. A military disaster of that magnitude would break the siege. Rinkles posted:Murderous thugs like war is hell and civilians die but this poo poo is loving. these fuckers can't win a battle so they start going after civilians and others. these fucks really are loving chuds. they are loving cowards who loving run from gunfire and die in droves but when it comes to civilians its loving murder time. gently caress em. Judakel posted:https://twitter.com/ZidanSports/status/1503057741333471232 well lets hope they rectify that mistake.
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Kraftwerk posted:I don’t understand. Where are the armed partisans. Why isn’t anyone shooting back? they probably are but its probably isolated cases. plus the Ukrainian army/reserves are still intact and fighting. partisan poo poo usually kicks up later. Flesnolk posted:I saw something recently about russia blowing up a NATO airbase, how screwed are we? no it was a ukranian base 15 miles from poland.
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Flesnolk posted:I saw something recently about russia blowing up a NATO airbase, how screwed are we? If that actually happened you would know it.
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KitConstantine posted:Edit: To make this on topic and not just depressing, have the extreme copium thread of a scholar in Moscow. I was reading this as he posted and it's absolutely astounding. Honestly thought his name was a play on Max Suck off and it was a parody of a shill....
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Kraftwerk posted:I don’t understand. Where are the armed partisans. Why isn’t anyone shooting back? It may be possible that these troops are acting like this BECAUSE they've come across armed partisans earlier.
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Zak2k12 posted:Can't speak about the Moscow Patriarchate, because the Romanian church is independent, but we have the world's 3rd largest Eastern Orthodox population after Russia and Ukraine. A week ago, the Romanian Patriarch took a hard stance against the war, calling it "a war started by Russia against an independent state". I mean none of this is surprising really, the Russian church isn't the center of the denomination or anything, just of their branch. Even the actual center (Constantinople) isn't much of a center anyway what with the "first among equals" deal. It's kind of like the Moscow Patriarchate is being treated like the one cousin in the family that just got arrested for domestic abuse and a DUI.
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Tomn posted:It may be possible that these troops are acting like this BECAUSE they've come across armed partisans earlier.
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KitConstantine posted:This was linked on Twitter as a really good explanation of the exact effects of a nuclear weapon. It's a BBC documentary episode from 1982 called 'Q.E.D - A Guide to Armageddon - Nuclear War Documentary'. i'm still not optimistic about ukraine's long term chances and think that a lot of folks are putting too much stock in ukrainian friendly sources, but my god is this the pendulum swinging too far the other way. he might as well claim that the russians have actually occupied all major cities in the country last week and any reports to the contrary are nazi propaganda
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i'm still not optimistic about ukraine's long term chances and think that a lot of folks are putting too much stock in ukrainian friendly sources, but my god is this the pendulum swinging too far the other way. he might as well claim that the russians have actually occupied all major cities in the country last week and any reports to the contrary are nazi propaganda my view is this is Russia's war to lose and i think they very well may lose it and at this point they won't be able to hold the country anyway even if they somehow get their poo poo together and some how take kyve after battle of Stalingrad 2.0, the war won't end for them. they are loving doing war crimes in the areas that were supposed to be friendly to them. their country is going to have super negative economy and their army got hosed on some many levels that its probably gonna implode if it tries a big offensive.
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Flesnolk posted:I saw something recently about russia blowing up a NATO airbase, how screwed are we? Did not happen. If that had happened you would not have ‘just saw something recently,’ you would know about it, and if you live in a NATO state, you would be at war—a very dangerous war.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i'm still not optimistic about ukraine's long term chances and think that a lot of folks are putting too much stock in ukrainian friendly sources, but my god is this the pendulum swinging too far the other way. he might as well claim that the russians have actually occupied all major cities in the country last week and any reports to the contrary are nazi propaganda I don't think anyone really knows. Everything depends on how the Russian military can fix its supply issues. The expectation was that they would absolutely crush the Ukrainian forces but so far they haven't. Already low troop morale is being depleted by supply disruptions making any continued gains extremely hard. If this is not resolved, the attack will collapse. However, if Russian generals figure out a magic fix for the supply lines and regroup, they will methodically overwhelm the Ukrainian military just by inching the artillery forward each day with coordinated ground and air support. I don't think it's possible for anyone to get a precise picture of the current state of morale in all of the Russian battle groups, how bad their supplies really are, and whether it's been getting better or worse. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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ZombieLenin posted:Did not happen. If that had happened you would not have ‘just saw something recently,’ you would know about it, and if you live in a NATO state, you would be at war—a very dangerous war. Cool, thanks; I’m feeling very sick today and this thread gets a new 200 pages every five minutes, so I thought I’d just ask instead of doing sleuthing that I don’t feel well enough for rn
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SirTagz posted:I don't think I have seen this posted ITT. Great read... quote:The United States would regain leadership in the Western world, and the West would become more united. At present, public opinion believes that the Ukrainian war signifies a complete collapse of U.S. hegemony, but the war would in fact bring France and Germany, both of which wanted to break away from the U.S., back into the NATO defense framework, destroying Europe’s dream to achieve independent diplomacy and self-defense. Germany would greatly increase its military budget; Switzerland, Sweden, and other countries would abandon their neutrality. With Nord Stream 2 put on hold indefinitely, Europe’s reliance on US natural gas will inevitably increase. The US and Europe would form a closer community of shared future, and American leadership in the Western world will rebound. This part makes no sense to me. Who in the world thinks this war = “the complete collapse of the U.S. hegemony”? Why would Switzerland choose to abandon official neutrality now when they didn’t during WW2?
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Russia will demand that NATO receeds to its pre-1997 borders They already made that demand. And NATO told Russia to go get hosed. I don't think anyone expected them to actually go and do it.
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Boris Galerkin posted:This part makes no sense to me. Who in the world thinks this war = “the complete collapse of the U.S. hegemony”? Why would Switzerland choose to abandon official neutrality now when they didn’t during WW2? There's the same fundamental misconception of the US-EU relationship, which is treated as US hegemony over Europe when it's better to think of it as a symbiotic relationship between two power blocs. That's really a consistent theme for a lot of international thinkers outside the West; ironically it was really only Russia's misinformation campaign that seemed to grasp it to drive a wedge between the blocs.
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SirTagz posted:I don't think I have seen this posted ITT. Great read... Author has extensive links to the United Front, the CCP's overseas influence organization (say long time China analysts). The implication being is that the monograph was produced to influence overseas audiences. Honestly I don't know how this changes the "read". But also, with China, as with Russia, best to watch what they do rather than what they publicly say.
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Boris Galerkin posted:This part makes no sense to me. Who in the world thinks this war = “the complete collapse of the U.S. hegemony”? Why would Switzerland choose to abandon official neutrality now when they didn’t during WW2? The answer is Chinese chuds. They view Europe as a series of American client states and a direct attack on Ukraine, in the view of some, is Russia thumbing its nose at the US and revealing its impotence and inability to protect their sphere.
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Tomn posted:The answer is Chinese chuds. They view Europe as a series of American client states and a direct attack on Ukraine, in the view of some, is Russia thumbing its nose at the US and revealing its impotence and inability to protect their sphere. I mean if this guy got this part so wrong then is their analysis even worth a drat?
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Tomn posted:It may be possible that these troops are acting like this BECAUSE they've come across armed partisans earlier. It's the same thing that happens literally any time poorly disciplined soldiers with guns run around in a war zone: they shoot at anything that seems even vaguely frightening, resistant to authority, or (for the 19 year old psychopaths in attendance) just seem like a fun thing to shoot.
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Antillie posted:They already made that demand. And NATO told Russia to go get hosed. I don't think anyone expected them to actually go and do it. Putin isn't going to stop until he is dead or exiled to Elba. This is the loving guy who's been a baddie since day one. He now has failed to take Ukraine but must resolutely conquer other states anyways. The restoration of the empire isn't going to stop and Russia wants to leave Ukraine in a non-functioning state if it can and setup for a future invasion. That's the whole "oh de weaponize the country proclaim you'll never join NATO and we'll cya in 12 years! "
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Boris Galerkin posted:I mean if this guy got this part so wrong then is their analysis even worth a drat? People are stupid, and it's useful to know what type of stupid they are. This is an interesting look at a Chinese flavor of stupid.
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Youth Decay posted:https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3428024-enemy-aircraft-bomb-sviatohirsk-lavra-in-donetsk-region.html No deaths, thank god https://myc.news/politika/svyatogorsk_vrag_nanes_udar_po_svyatogorskoj_lavre_gde_pryatalis_bezhency https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1502961935310102532 Russian sources, of course, claim this was an act by terrorist groups unaffiliated with the Russian military. Sure. Another cathedral was hit last night at Severodonestk, the Holy Christ-Christmas Cathedral, also being used as a bomb shelter. No deaths, but several injuries due to broken glass.  https://twitter.com/kanalukraine_en/status/1502980503900676098
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Boris Galerkin posted:I mean if this guy got this part so wrong then is their analysis even worth a drat? He is responding to an opinion very common in Chinese commentary, and sadly I can say that he is right; it is very common.
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