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https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1503434861771726850?s=20&t=wz6qzRXf8JD6rv9i9b4wMw This keeps going back and forth with unnamed officials. Someone up thread mentioned it was a US leak to put the pressure on China to state they would NOT support with military assistance. Also saw plans are in place for Biden to visit somewhere in the EU, possibly Poland. Other reports that Russia has very little time left (less than 2 weeks) to fix its army issues or the whole thing is going to collapse. A friend living near where my family lives in Chernihiv went for a walk in that area today. He said, "It is hell there." The picture of the unexploded bomb next to their house has been making the rounds on social media.
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Tomn posted:I could see an argument for it being a strategic choice to improve US standing in the world. "Russian authoritarianism starved the world, American democracy fed it" is a pretty good headline. The Greatest Generation are all dead: the US is run by Boomers and Silents now, and they don't give a poo poo about global standing or humanitarian efforts. They are going to hoard it or make every country pay insane rates and turbofuck everything, and then when some countries complain they will use prosperity gospel to justify being heartless shitheads. I have absolutely no faith in my government/ boomers who vote in droves to do the "right" thing here
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Doccers posted:IIRC the Su-34 was shot down in the east, unrelated to the strikes on the western base. There was a lot of information noise yesterday, and I was part of spreading the misinformation that the SU-34 was shot down in the West. A Twitter (can't loving find it now because I'm a dumbass) I follow has been tracking chatter from the strategic bombers, they came on station again late in the day yesterday and just seemed to loiter over the Black Sea, according to them.
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TulliusCicero posted:The Greatest Generation are all dead: the US is run by Boomers and Silents now, and they don't give a poo poo about global standing or humanitarian efforts. You are so going to get your rations reduced if you go on like that. No, not for you! Only 2 grams of butter!
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Randarkman posted:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Uk-%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%97%D0%B2.ogg No It's basically the russian letter ы
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Charlotte Hornets posted:No The first vowel is the one that sounds like ы to me at least.
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Boris Galerkin posted:How do you pronounce kyiv https://twitter.com/wiczipedia/status/1194686620097826821
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Ynglaur posted:The map above is interesting for this reason: it shows three separate Russian Military Districts involved in the push to Kiev. Gee, I wonder why coordination is so difficult? That's actually almost totally irrelevant. The three pushes almost might as well be on the other side of the planet from each other. The push by Eastern MD west of Dniepr is on the other side of a river they have no hope to bridge and where the nearest bridge is in Kyiv. The push down south by Central MD is separated from the Western MD by the wettest landscape in all of Ukraine. The area between those major roads on the map isn't just muddy, a lot of it is just outright flooded right now. The plan was for 3 independent pushes towards Kyiv. They don't need to co-ordinate at all until the are well inside the city.
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Tldr: You say Kiev like a Finn and write Kyiv like an Ukrainian.
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Tuna-Fish posted:That's actually almost totally irrelevant. The three pushes almost might as well be on the other side of the planet from each other. The push by Eastern MD west of Dniepr is on the other side of a river they have no hope to bridge and where the nearest bridge is in Kyiv. The push down south by Central MD is separated from the Western MD by the wettest landscape in all of Ukraine. The area between those major roads on the map isn't just muddy, a lot of it is just outright flooded right now. How hard could it be to cross the river and sack Kyiv? It's *this* small on the map.
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Randarkman posted:The first vowel is the one that sounds like ы to me at least. Oh, yes sorry. The first vowel. The second vowel is basically a loooooong i The main problem for people is the first vowel.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:How hard could it be to cross the river and sack Kyiv? It's *this* small on the map. Even a small stream that an individual out on a hike can just hop over, is a major obstacle to an army at the best of times due to the logistics involved. Mud Season in combat is ... not the best of times.
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Now, say: you're going to Kyiv, in Kyiv, at Kyiv, above Kyiv, under Kyiv, etc. and learn how to pronounce it like 30 more ways!
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Now, say: you're going to Kyiv, in Kyiv, at Kyiv, above Kyiv, under Kyiv, etc. and learn how to pronounce it like 30 more ways! I will simply respect Kyiv by staying far away from it
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Now, say: you're going to Kyiv, in Kyiv, at Kyiv, above Kyiv, under Kyiv, etc. and learn how to pronounce it like 30 more ways! Oh gently caress Ukrainian is inflected?
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Failed Imagineer posted:I will simply respect Kyiv by staying far away from it Fully qualified to be a Russian invader.
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Was this masterpiece posted already? https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1503365400939147273
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Italian perspective, unrolled from @Ric_Alcaro -------- Since before the invasion and even after that, Italy's main TV networks have regularly hosted 'geopolitics' experts and other public figures who have argued the following: The #US and/or #NATO share the responsibility for the war, which Putin would've been forced to wage because of the aggressiveness of NATO/EU's expansion plans The underlying argument is that #Russia has structural interests threatened by US/EU. You'll find no elaboration about the fact that such "interests" are in fact a claim to a zone of influence, by way of elite co-optation, intimidation and military force, over neighbors Ukraine's agency is almost never taken in consideration. Ukraine is discursively construed as a passive object of US-Russia competition Unsurprisingly, their suggestion to Ukraine is that it should surrender to Russia's military superiority to avoid further casualties, and that the US/EU should negotiate with Putin now The war goes to the advantage of a US intent on making Europe even more dependent. The war has shown that the EU is divided and ultimately pointless precisely because it's too dependent on the US, the real 'victor' of the war Not all 'experts' or public figures who show understanding to Russia would agree with all the above points, but the problem here is that, in a nutshell, this is what TV watchers in Italy are constantly fed Still it is important that foreign audiences are aware that the debate in Italy is anything but settled against Putin. No-one defends the war but many, including publicly, are unwilling to consider the imperialist ideology with which its regime is imbued as a factor
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Pookah posted:Oh gently caress Ukrainian is inflected? Yeah. 3 months of 10 hours Ukrainian lessons in Chernihiv 6 days a week and I was still getting brain blown by all the new poo poo coming out. Like when I found out 2 years in I could add -"mu" to the end of the infinitive for "to have" and other wild stuff.
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SaTaMaS posted:I don't understand why India is being so crass about the conflict. They're trying to play both sides in order to get what...some rusty Russian military hardware and some oil? They don't even import that much oil from Russia, just 2-3%. This is a pretty good Twitter thread that was posted earlier here. According to it, India has a fairly pro-Russia public sentiment (if not pro-invasion) that is driven by a combination of historical Russian support of India, dislike of their perception of USA hegemony, buying into Russia's NATO expansionism propaganda, and a sense that Ukraine deserves it for getting tricked by the West about support and integration and giving up their nukes. KitConstantine posted:Thread from an Indian journalist on how the war is perceived in India - they seem to blame Zelensky/NATO as much as Russia.
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Randarkman posted:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Uk-%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%97%D0%B2.ogg In any case, it's not like there isn't a proud Anglo tradition of not pronouncing European capitals correctly, so Kyiv fits right in.
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Kallikaa posted:Wasn't the Finnish President meeting with Baiden and they found time to call the Swedish pm? Dunno maybe they just like being on the phone. Did they get the Swedish pm on the phone during their meeting? If so I wonder if Sweden and Finland are going to do some sort of joint NATO application. Support for joining NATO is now at 62% in Finland but it jumps to 77% if Sweden also wants to join. Is public opinion in Sweden also like this? I think a joint application/announcement would make a lot of sense if so.
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bad_fmr posted:Was this masterpiece posted already? At my grandfather's funeral, a very old man that none of us had ever met came over to tell us about how, when he was a young army officer, my grandad had a sports car with a machine gun mounted on it  (Grandad had a... busy time during the Irish War of Independence and Civil War)
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Yeah. I can respect inflected languages for how clearly they can express exact meaning, but drat they are a pain in the hole for non-infants to learn.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:, India has a fairly pro-Russia public sentiment (if not pro-invasion) that is driven by a combination of historical Russian support of India, dislike of their perception of USA hegemony, buying into Russia's NATO expansionism propaganda, and a sense that Ukraine deserves it for getting tricked by the West about support and integration and giving up their nukes. India's colonial experience and their historical leadership of the non-aligned bloc also might have something to do with it.
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I think it would be a good sign for Biden to visit Poland. I’m not a fan of our Polish administration or the president, but Kamala “Giggles” Harris was here last week and she didn’t leave me with a particularly good impression.
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The bmw technical is... Interesting to say the least. Hope they put some chicks under the wheels to stop it from flipping over while cycling the MG
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BoldFace posted:Rare combat footage from Russian perspective. What gets me about this as a tank commander in a NATO country is you can tell the poor training of the crew, as he comes around the corner it's gun front and I think he has grips out, not scanning the corner or having the gun direction of threat, no jockying after each round fired presenting a static target, no wonder nlaws are eating them up.
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Mokotow posted:I think it would be a good sign for Biden to visit Poland. I’m not a fan of our Polish administration or the president, but Kamala “Giggles” Harris was here last week and she didn’t leave me with a particularly good impression. I have to wonder if American VP choices are more a check against assassination attempts than anything else at this point. "Take out Biden, and THIS person becomes president." "... oh. Nevermind then..." [edit] quoted the wrong post...
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The bmw technical is... Interesting to say the least. Chicks do dig BMWs...
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Looks like continuing to fence sit/tentatively support Russia is hitting China right in the balance sheet https://twitter.com/RChoongWilkins/status/1503361696567418883?t=nR75D86lMDM1qYiOGJGlZg&s=19 https://twitter.com/RChoongWilkins/status/1503363594049626116?t=S-iy48Pp7LTBXbBIyudERA&s=19 Though one of their main port cities Shenzhen is closed through the 20th for mass covid testing which doesn't help (source: my company's factory in China)
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William Bear posted:Chicks do dig BMWs... I asked my wife, they dig 12.7x108, too.
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Cocaine Bear posted:I'm coming at it from non military applications so ymmv, but depleted uranium is probably only a problem in this case if you break some up and get it in you. Sitting next to a bunch of DU rounds all day probably won't do anything. Medical and industrial radiographers hang out with the stuff all the time with no issue. It's only really a concern if you get partiulate stuck on and around vital organs. And I have a feeling that a DU round in or around vialt organs will mitigate the long term effects of the radiation (because you'd be dead!). The problem isn't radioactivity. Uranium is pyrophoric and dust and smoke will get into the air. I'm sure it's more of a long term problem for residents. It's a heavy metal that accumulates in the bone and kidneys and I think causes birth defects. And of course those effects are on top of lead, whatever residues explosives leave, spilled fuel, etc.
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Wild scene on Russian state TV today https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1503444628045017102?t=T4vZUwTraZZUzsOYZokhQA&s=19 Brave woman 
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MonkeyLibFront posted:What gets me about this as a tank commander in a NATO country is you can tell the poor training of the crew, as he comes around the corner it's gun front and I think he has grips out, not scanning the corner or having the gun direction of threat, no jockying after each round fired presenting a static target, no wonder nlaws are eating them up. And not to mention his infantry support is just standing their filming a tik tok. I am not a soldier, but I suspect he could be doing something more useful.
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KitConstantine posted:Looks like continuing to fence sit/tentatively support Russia is hitting China right in the balance sheet Yeah I was assuming this had more to do with the Omnicron surge they're starting to see.
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Antillie posted:Did they get the Swedish pm on the phone during their meeting? If so I wonder if Sweden and Finland are going to do some sort of joint NATO application. Support for joining NATO is now at 62% in Finland but it jumps to 77% if Sweden also wants to join. Is public opinion in Sweden also like this? I think a joint application/announcement would make a lot of sense if so. Swedish public opinion on NATO membership has gone from slowly about 40 % in favor of membership (30 against and 30 undecided) before the invasion to 52% in favor after the invasion.
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Slightly "old" but... https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1503040935063703556 https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1503056485718401029 https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1503065561722494978 They can't even hazard a guess; destruction too complete.
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KitConstantine posted:Wild scene on Russian state TV today Her courage is unbelievable, I can only imagine being this great a person.
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Pookah posted:I can respect inflected languages for how clearly they can express exact meaning, but drat they are a pain in the hole for non-infants to learn. I remember reading that there was an old Russian joke about this stuff. From Wikipedia: quote:In a Soviet factory. Five pokers are to be requisitioned. The correct forms are acquired, but as they are being filled out, a debate arises: what is the genitive plural of kocherga? Is it Kocherg? Kocherieg? Kochergov?... One thing is clear: a form with the wrong genitive plural of kocherga will bring disaster from the typically pedantic bureaucrats. Finally, an old janitor overhears the commotion, and tells them to send in two separate requisitions: one for two kochergi and another for three kochergi. William Bear fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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