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SlowBloke posted:Here is a fun tidbit, in a lot of European countries law codes, civil unrest is not a war. For instance Libia and Syrian refugees are not fleeing war since there was no external aggression. So does the balkans since at the start of the conflict there was Yugoslavia and then a sea of fragmented states after but no violence from the bordering states. PederP posted:Yes, that is how it is taught at some schools: "Yugoslavian civil war". And even in academia and politics, there is this weird perception that the nations of Balkan aren't 'real'. The term 'balkanization' is an example - it has come to mean an unnatural and/or unhealthy fracturing of national unity. I remember in Danish high school we were taught that the problems in the Balkans harkened back to the old divide between the eastern and western halves of the roman empire, and that everything since - from the Ottomans to the modern conflicts, was a result of this, and that the region was basically forever doomed to be a cauldron of ethnic and religious conflict. In hindsight, it was an incredibly exceptionalist and condescending view of the Balkans we were taught - and my teachers were openly socialists and marxists. Still there was a strong whiff of racism in their take on the Balkans. Growing up we spent every summer in (what is now) Croatia, as that was a way to save money and enjoy a nicer climate at the same time - and my personal experience really didn't match what we were taught. It was very strange and in hindsight even more so. So it was Civil Unrest Operation rather than war, got it.  Comstar posted:Russia using their high cost high grade military weapons with precision I'll have you known that there was a Nazi mouse in that cabinet, it was precision strike and the bastardy mouse was eliminated. Edit: Ukraine cat tax 
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piL posted:Imagine how surprised the photographer on the dining room toilet must feel! surprised and relieved all at the same time I think
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CSM posted:Nowhere in the thread does he actually support his conclusions of 6-8 weeks. He'd need all kinds of information and detailed pics of nearly all the Russian military vehicles in Russian hands to do so and that just isn't happening. He does show some pics and .gifs of some pretty ragged out Russian vehicles in the field as well as establish his creditably with his history of repairing such trucks under war conditions though. It should be looked at as him just giving his on the ground experienced opinion and not him giving out indisputable facts like a scientist or whatever.
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Looking forward to new Fortnite dances. https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/status/1505515293816274955 https://twitter.com/samramani2/status/1505381298512216066
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GABA ghoul posted:Wtf? Who installed a kitchen and a bathroom sink side by side? I mean, yeah, the missile is also kinda weird but wtf is it with the sinks? This is entirely normal in commercial kitchens in the EU. By EU regs, if you make food for customers there needs to be a separate place to wash your hands and for getting water for cooking/washing pans and stuff. The hand-washing station is typically of a "bathroom sink" type to easily visually distinguish it, and because of piping, usually pretty drat close to the kitchen sink. BoldFace posted:Sounds like completely made up Ukrainian fanfiction propaganda, but I choose to believe it anyway. If they actually had this intel, they would surely hold this close to their chest to reduce risks to the coup. ... Unless, that's what they want you to think. 
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Electric Wrigglies posted:surprised and relieved all at the same time I think In other news I had a student ask me why the war in Ukraine couldn’t just stop during the NCAA tourney so more coverage could be given to the games. Good times. Good times.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:surprised and relieved all at the same time I think 
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:There is basically no concrete way for him to do so. The thing is, Russia has lost an estimated ten to twenty percent of their armed forces in three weeks already. Right or wrong that guys analysis is moot because in six more weeks at this rate there won't be a russian army left to supply with trucks anyway.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The thing is, Russia has lost an estimated ten to twenty percent of their armed forces in three weeks already. Right or wrong that guys analysis is moot because in six more weeks at this rate there won't be a russian army left to supply with trucks anyway. Also notable that the amount of destroyed equipment has been increasing much faster as of late - at least the stuff verified by photo. The ratio of Ukrainian to Russian destroyed/captured has also gone from around 1:2 to 1:4 over the past 2 weeks. It's not sustainable.
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ninjoatse.cx posted:The denial of the war to even their own family members is appearing all over in newsfeeds. Not a single one that’s touched on the Russian perspective has failed to mention horrible things happening to their family members at the hands of the Russian military being denied by their family members in Russia. What are you saying?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
Remember a while back when people asked about whether a 30mm cannon could penetrate the sides of a T-72B3? These videos answer that question pretty concisely (yes).
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The thing is, Russia has lost an estimated ten to twenty percent of their armed forces in three weeks already. Right or wrong that guys analysis is moot because in six more weeks at this rate there won't be a russian army left to supply with trucks anyway. Yeah that's a good point too. Either because the wheels start to fall off their vehicles or because they got shot up: either way the Russians are going to have crippling heavy equipment issues in a few weeks no matter what.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:In the future, please just post actual video you saw, tagged appropriately, instead of giving a vague recollection of a sensational claim. It’s worthless at best to present it the way that you have done. as requested this is a bunch of videos of ukrainians torturing other ukrainians fyi https://twitter.com/Youblacksoul/status/1505309631542931459
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Epic cat tax sir XD (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:People basing their posts off hoi4 and vic2 Hey they don't simulate mass murder of civilians, war crimes, and atrocities in those games, so maybe you are onto something. Nash posted:
Did you call them a shithead? Or at least look at them with a really disapproving glare? I hope you did.
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Comstar posted:Russia using their high cost high grade military weapons with precision if i understand correctly this is basically the artillery equivalent it a bullet shell. It has no explosive and is just designed to randomly spear civilian poo poo.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Was I talking to you? were you?
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FishBulbia posted:if i understand correctly this is basically the artillery equivalent it a bullet shell. It has no explosive and is just designed to randomly spear civilian poo poo. It's the initial booster of a cluster payload canister, it's a solid explosive rocket, hopefully just out of charge. Far from harmless
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Flesh Forge posted:were you? I'm sorry, did I stutter? I think I rather clearly asked the OP to not make unnecessarily vague posts, rather than inviting everyone to post their favourite Twitter tankies, however relevant.
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is "this is a bunch of videos of ukrainians torturing other ukrainians" not clear enough? what are you talking about, "favorite twitter tankies"? e: your directive was "post the actual video you saw", that's the video
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Tuna-Fish posted:This is entirely normal in commercial kitchens in the EU. By EU regs, if you make food for customers there needs to be a separate place to wash your hands and for getting water for cooking/washing pans and stuff. The hand-washing station is typically of a "bathroom sink" type to easily visually distinguish it, and because of piping, usually pretty drat close to the kitchen sink. But this is not a commercial kitchen and it's not inside the EU? Also, I don't think it's even true. I've worked in commerical kitchens in Germany and I don't remember having separate hand washing stations. Although I may be wrong about this, it's been a while
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Looking forward to new Fortnite dances. Cops dance the exact same everywhere on Earth, it seems.
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SlowBloke posted:It's the initial booster of a cluster payload canister, it's a solid explosive rocket, hopefully just out of charge. Far from harmless but its the flying part, not the boom part, right?
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PederP posted:Yes, that is how it is taught at some schools: "Yugoslavian civil war". And even in academia and politics, there is this weird perception that the nations of Balkan aren't 'real'. The term 'balkanization' is an example - it has come to mean an unnatural and/or unhealthy fracturing of national unity. I remember in Danish high school we were taught that the problems in the Balkans harkened back to the old divide between the eastern and western halves of the roman empire, and that everything since - from the Ottomans to the modern conflicts, was a result of this, and that the region was basically forever doomed to be a cauldron of ethnic and religious conflict. In hindsight, it was an incredibly exceptionalist and condescending view of the Balkans we were taught - and my teachers were openly socialists and marxists. Still there was a strong whiff of racism in their take on the Balkans. Growing up we spent every summer in (what is now) Croatia, as that was a way to save money and enjoy a nicer climate at the same time - and my personal experience really didn't match what we were taught. It was very strange and in hindsight even more so. The Balkans are what happens when you try to devise nations with a straight edge without the brutal process of national homogenization. Every single one of them ended up with enclaves of neighboring cultures. When nationalism started to hit large numbers of people in all of them thought that this place should be (pick 1) Part of that other nation, its own nation, part of a nation that doesn't exist yet, part of a nation that doesn't exist anymore, or MORE like whoever is in charge now. Often the prevailing opinion changed village to village or door to door. The problem is that are an infinite number of maps you could impose on the Balkans and none of them make any sense without open borders and free trade. Not even the one that puts them all in the same country.
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BoldFace posted:Sounds like completely made up Ukrainian fanfiction propaganda, but I choose to believe it anyway. It's been widely reported the there is a lack of trust and a lot of suspicion between the FSB and other agencies so they are probably trying to push that further.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:In the future, please just post actual video you saw, tagged appropriately, instead of giving a vague recollection of a sensational claim. It’s worthless at best to present it the way that you have done. Yeah seriously I don’t understand the people who come here and post something like “omg I just saw the worse video of [a description of a gruesome scene] but I’m not going to post it because it’s so horrible.” Mate we’re all adults here,  (tagged of course) and let us decide if we want to click or not otherwise these posts are just noise.
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FishBulbia posted:but its the flying part, not the boom part, right? A solid booster rocket is an explosive made to make a big jet for a long period of time rather than a single instant. It's still ordnance that requires EOD to remove rather than a hammer and a saw. Not as dangerous as a bomb but still unpleasant to find in your kitchen+bathroom space.
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PederP posted:Yes, that is how it is taught at some schools: "Yugoslavian civil war". And even in academia and politics, there is this weird perception that the nations of Balkan aren't 'real'. The term 'balkanization' is an example - it has come to mean an unnatural and/or unhealthy fracturing of national unity. I remember in Danish high school we were taught that the problems in the Balkans harkened back to the old divide between the eastern and western halves of the roman empire, and that everything since - from the Ottomans to the modern conflicts, was a result of this, and that the region was basically forever doomed to be a cauldron of ethnic and religious conflict. In hindsight, it was an incredibly exceptionalist and condescending view of the Balkans we were taught - and my teachers were openly socialists and marxists. Still there was a strong whiff of racism in their take on the Balkans. Growing up we spent every summer in (what is now) Croatia, as that was a way to save money and enjoy a nicer climate at the same time - and my personal experience really didn't match what we were taught. It was very strange and in hindsight even more so. Something I always find odd about the Yugoslav wars is that when I see it mentioned online nowadays 95% of the time its in relation to the NATO campaign against Serbia and how it was an outrageous campaign of terror. There's lots of nuance to that campaign and the Kosovo crisis that should be discussed that's not unreservedly pro-NATO, pro-Kosovar or pro-Croatian but honestly its reached a point where there's a certain class of person who will bang on and on endlessly about NATO crimes in the former Yugoslavia and never once mention anything about what happened with regards to Serbian actions (re: atrocities) in the entire 10 year conflict.
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Warbadger posted:Remember a while back when people asked about whether a 30mm cannon could penetrate the sides of a T-72B3? These videos answer that question pretty concisely (yes). I don't know, it looks more like it punctured the external fuel tanks which then burst into flames. The T-72's were probably already abandoned because they were just standing there inactive? 
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Tuna-Fish posted:This is entirely normal in commercial kitchens in the EU. By EU regs, if you make food for customers there needs to be a separate place to wash your hands and for getting water for cooking/washing pans and stuff. The hand-washing station is typically of a "bathroom sink" type to easily visually distinguish it, and because of piping, usually pretty drat close to the kitchen sink. But the picture is of someone’s private apartment kitchen and the 3 EU countries I’ve lived in (and many others I’ve visited) have never had two sinks in a private apartment kitchen.
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Nenonen posted:I don't know, it looks more like it punctured the external fuel tanks which then burst into flames. The T-72's were probably already abandoned because they were just standing there inactive? Thanks for pointing this out, I was really confused by the footage since it looks like they're aiming for the tracks then suddenly it's all on fire. Agree that it looks abandoned, both vehicles do nothing when presented with unprotected infantry or when fired on.
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Boris Galerkin posted:But the picture is of someone’s private apartment kitchen and the 3 EU countries I’ve lived in (and many others I’ve visited) have never had two sinks in a private apartment kitchen. It could be an old Soviet apartment that has been renovated but they may have had to do weird solutions. Like maybe the bathroom is really cramped and they couldn't change the layout, but wanted to have a separate basin for washing hands instead of using the kitchen sink because it's more hygienic. That's my theory anyway, I hope that once the war is over United Nations will set a truth commission to find out what is going on in Kharkiv's kitchens.
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A Ukrainian journalist who detained a while ago has been released: https://mailbd.net/news/russian-invaders-released-kherson-journalist-oleg-baturin-he-lost-a-lot-of-weight-very-dirty-tired-35126/ He wasn't exactly treated well, but at least he wasn't tortured and killed. I know that's a low bar to set - but like the details from the kidnapped Mayor of how he was not abused, it does show that some members of the Russian military and administration manage to keep a level of basic human decency. There are war crimes and massacres committed, no doubt about it - I am not trying to be an apologist in this matter - but I am just glad to see things have not descended completely into barbarity and malice. It gives me hope of a more peaceful future between Ukrainians and Russians.
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Flesh Forge posted:is "this is a bunch of videos of ukrainians torturing other ukrainians" not clear enough? what are you talking about, "favorite twitter tankies"? I asked Sankis to refrain from making posts where they say that they saw a bad video, and the proceed to discuss the video at lengths with vague details. That results in a bunch of low quality posts, and the easiest way to rectify the issue is to post the specific video in question. Unless you happen to be a Sankis parachute, that post was not addressed to you. And I definitely did not request anyone to dump haphazardly attributed material from Russian propaganda accounts with minimal context - that is an offence under the standing D&D rules, c.f. “good information” rule. I’m not probating you only since I’ve seen a handful of them outside of Kremlin information space before.
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Boris Galerkin posted:But the picture is of someone’s private apartment kitchen and the 3 EU countries I’ve lived in (and many others I’ve visited) have never had two sinks in a private apartment kitchen. Well it's not an EU country (unfortunately)
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GABA ghoul posted:Wtf? Who installed a kitchen and a bathroom sink side by side? I mean, yeah, the missile is also kinda weird but wtf is it with the sinks? It's making me feel dizzy.
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