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What the poo poo was that move Buddy Murphy did on Rampage tonight? Like some kind of pumphandle snap Death Valley driver? The camera was all over the place and the move itself looked crazy.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:What the poo poo was that move Buddy Murphy did on Rampage tonight? Like some kind of pumphandle snap Death Valley driver? The camera was all over the place and the move itself looked crazy. its his finisher, Murphy's Law or Matthews' Law now I guess until it gets an official spooky name
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Mar 19, 2022 06:20
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Are there more graphics like this or more official things like the NOAH preshow whiteboard to keep track of rivalries and factions for other companies? I really enjoy looking through them and finding some new connection each time
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Mar 19, 2022 06:28
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Nehru the Damaja posted:What the poo poo was that move Buddy Murphy did on Rampage tonight? Like some kind of pumphandle snap Death Valley driver? The camera was all over the place and the move itself looked crazy. The Whale Hunt, invented by Shuji Kondo  tbh if they can't call it Murphy's Law, I would be happy if they just straight up called it the Whale Hunt
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Mar 19, 2022 22:31
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At least three times in the past year when I've wondered about the origin of a move, it turned out Shuji Kondo innovated it. He's a lot more influential than I think people give him credit for. Has any other wrestler ever done the Ashi Yoshino II? The setup is similar to Marty Jannetty's Rocker Dropper, but it's more of an arm-trap move than a facebuster. 
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Mar 19, 2022 23:44
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Has anyone ever actually won a match by "reversing the pressure" of a figure four? I'm imagining someone like Brandon Cutler being super proud that they got someone in it and then frantically tapping as soon as it gets reversed.
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Mar 20, 2022 11:05
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What are some examples of heel turns while the wrestler is a current champion? Like CM Punk in 2012 turning heel and aligning with Paul Heyman.
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Mar 20, 2022 11:50
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What are some examples of heel turns while the wrestler is a current champion? Young Bucks were face when they beat FTR for the AEW tag titles, then turned heel along with Kenny.
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Mar 20, 2022 11:57
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What are some examples of heel turns while the wrestler is a current champion? Okada pretty much turned heel towards the end of his 2016-18 IWGP title run thinking specifically about the build to Okada/Omega IV, where Omega was training harder than he'd ever trained in his life, taking this more seriously than any match he'd ever wrestled, whereas Okada basically just went fishing and pissed about until Dominion fun angle tbh
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Mar 20, 2022 12:58
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What are some examples of heel turns while the wrestler is a current champion? Nigel McGuinness turning heel by getting Bryan Danielson to agree to an ROH title match with no strikes to the head (the bad ROH fans turned on Nigel because he missed a match with a concussion) and then repeatedly striking Bryan Danielson's head.
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Mar 20, 2022 16:10
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What are some examples of heel turns while the wrestler is a current champion? Alberto del Rio during his '13 WHC run. Even got a double-turn out of it in a match against Ziggler.
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Mar 20, 2022 16:11
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What are some examples of heel turns while the wrestler is a current champion? Randy Savage in his first WWF title run Ric Flair had a run where, during a NWA title reign, he was a heel, turned face for a feud against Nikita Koloff, then turned heel again.
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Mar 20, 2022 16:22
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MassRafTer posted:Nigel McGuinness turning heel by getting Bryan Danielson to agree to an ROH title match with no strikes to the head (the bad ROH fans turned on Nigel because he missed a match with a concussion) and then repeatedly striking Bryan Danielson's head. Nigel was so incredibly loving awesome
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Mar 20, 2022 16:51
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I was reading the Young Bucks' book and they mentioned a triple threat ladder match in PWG against Super Smash Bros and Cole/O'Reilly. Is that match online anywhere? I want to see it.
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Mar 20, 2022 17:02
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The Berzerker posted:I was reading the Young Bucks' book and they mentioned a triple threat ladder match in PWG against Super Smash Bros and Cole/O'Reilly. Is that match online anywhere? I want to see it. Here you go, it was the main event of Threemendous III from 2012 (link is for the whole show, skip to 2:06:35). Unfortunately it only comes in 480p unless you have a bilibili account e: pretty sure it's Kevin Steen on comms with Excalibur, but I could be mistaken
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Mar 20, 2022 17:18
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The Berzerker posted:I was reading the Young Bucks' book and they mentioned a triple threat ladder match in PWG against Super Smash Bros and Cole/O'Reilly. Is that match online anywhere? I want to see it. Every PWG show pre-pandemic is up on the Highspots Network, which is $9.99/month. They used to get uploaded there about 12 months after the shows happened IIRC but a quick check & I see they have Mystery Vortex 7 from last summer up to watch. Plus rakes of shoot interviews the Best Friends interviews, Kevin Steen Show (which is where the clip of him smashing a mug for his wrestling figure Austin's theme music when he's 17 comes from), and loads of stuff from various indies.
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Mar 20, 2022 17:31
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Thank you both!
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SG Bamboo posted:e: pretty sure it's Kevin Steen on comms with Excalibur, but I could be mistaken It is, and it is glorious.
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Mar 20, 2022 17:41
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I cannot believe I finally caught up with the wrestling questions thread O.K. here it comes, my question that does not deserve its own thread: Why did the Initiative break up the moment I bought their shirt Almost as importantly, why does nobody ever talk about the WWC when saying "all" American territories died? Sounds like they have been plugging right along down there since the 1970s and even doing fairly good business in the process. I imagine the answer is just "people do not think of Puerto Rico as America"
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Mar 20, 2022 17:52
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Dr. Quarex posted:I cannot believe I finally caught up with the wrestling questions thread My only ancendotal answer to why do people not talk about WWC is that my reaction to this question was What's WWC never heard of it.
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Mar 20, 2022 18:07
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Dr. Quarex posted:Almost as importantly, why does nobody ever talk about the WWC when saying "all" American territories died? Sounds like they have been plugging right along down there since the 1970s and even doing fairly good business in the process. I imagine the answer is just "people do not think of Puerto Rico as America" I'm sure part of it is that PR isn't an official state, but Hawaii's 50th State Big Time Wrestling (where High Chief Peter Maivia was a big star) had similar issues: Both covered less ground for obvious geographical reasons, being remote and detached from mainland US, so they couldn't tour or expand. Territories in the continental 48 states (and Canadian ones that crossed the border) usually spanned multiple states or portions of states in their major tour circuits, and often shared territory in major cities. You can't do that if you're the only game in town and you're on a small island, unless you want to pay to fly everyone around all the time. The best most of them could do is fly their biggest star somewhere for a stint, or have another mainland territory fly in one of their own. That's why in WWC's case you pretty much only ever hear of wrestlers from other territories working with Carlos Colon. So when the mainland territories died, it was the touring circuit that died.
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Mar 20, 2022 18:23
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Shard posted:My only ancendotal answer to why do people not talk about WWC is that my reaction to this question was What's WWC never heard of it. When people talk about "Puerto Rico wrestling," WWC is usually the promotion they're talking about
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Mar 20, 2022 18:25
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Benne posted:When people talk about "Puerto Rico wrestling," WWC is usually the promotion they're talking about That or IWA-PR, but that came later than the territories. IWA-PR titles are defended in MLW now though; Mil Muertes is the Caribbean champion and 5150 (Danny Limelight & Slice Boogie) are their tag champs.
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Mar 20, 2022 18:29
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I like Yuji Okabayashi but it's hard to find Big Japan Strong and context for it. Anything I should see (and show to a friend who's even more unfamiliar?)
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Mar 20, 2022 19:01
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Wrestlers going by a mononym like a Brazilian football player is cool and all, but when did those names being stylised in ALL CAPS like KENTA or DOUKI or BUSHI become a thing?
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Mar 20, 2022 19:18
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edogawa rando posted:Wrestlers going by a mononym like a Brazilian football player is cool and all, but when did those names being stylised in ALL CAPS like KENTA or DOUKI or BUSHI become a thing? usually it's a case of stylization carry over from the names being written in katakana instead of kanji but i don't know if that explains those three names specifically
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Mar 20, 2022 19:23
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not a mononym but i was talking about this with a friend and we were having trouble finding an example predating TAKA Michinoku for a guy using all caps romaji for part of his ring name. in japanese the michinoku part is written in hiragana if anyone didn't know and was curious (TAKAみちのく).
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Mar 20, 2022 19:27
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i think the alternate answer is usually "it looks cool"
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Alaois posted:usually it's a case of stylization carry over from the names being written in katakana instead of kanji but i don't know if that explains those three names specifically certain dragon system guys (Eita, T-Hawk, Gamma) are the main exceptions to guys using standard caps in romaji that i can think of. also as far as guys everyone knows Cody went by exactly that in New Japan and did not use katakana like the vast majority of gaijin. my all time favorite romaji typography example is "brother" YASSHI written exactly like that quotes included.
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Mar 20, 2022 19:32
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In KENTA's case specifically it was because his full name is Kenta Kobayashi and he wanted to differentiate it from Kenta Kobashi
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Mar 20, 2022 19:33
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Kosmo Gallion posted:What are some examples of heel turns while the wrestler is a current champion? Eddie Kingston and Dasher Hatfield in Chikara.
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Zombie Lemur posted:Has anyone ever actually won a match by "reversing the pressure" of a figure four? It was also one of the big falls for Janela in his iron match match with D*v*d St*rr in Beyond. But that might be it.
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Danielson and McGuinness in ROH.
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Mar 20, 2022 21:12
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Thauros posted:my all time favorite romaji typography example is "brother" YASSHI written exactly like that quotes included. Mine is Funky "Jacky" Kamei changing his name to Jacky "Funky" Kamei because the band who recorded his theme song messed up the word order. So instead of just moving the words around, they also changed which word was in quotes. 
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Mar 20, 2022 22:48
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Alaois posted:usually it's a case of stylization carry over from the names being written in katakana instead of kanji but i don't know if that explains those three names specifically But you also have guys like Okada, who is presented as オカダ・カズチカ in katakana. TAKA Michinoku took the ring last name from Michinoku Pro/Great Sasuke, as ‘Michinoku’ is another name/historical province name for Tōhoku, the north-east of Honshu in Japan, and that was the ring surname that Sasuke first used when breaking in. Taka comes from his shoot first name. Essentially it’s a way to stand out. Even outside wrestling, baseball player Ichiro Suzuki has one of the blandest names you can imagine for a Japanese dude - Suzuki being one of the most common surnames, Ichiro being a very common boys name of a certain era. So once he ascended to stardom he started going by イチロー just in katakana.
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Thauros posted:not a mononym but i was talking about this with a friend and we were having trouble finding an example predating TAKA Michinoku for a guy using all caps romaji for part of his ring name. in japanese the michinoku part is written in hiragana if anyone didn't know and was curious (TAKAみちのく). I think I remember JADO and GEDO being billed like that in the mid 90s, and when I was in Japan someone told me the all caps romaji was to denote heels originally but by the early 00's it was just done to look cool.
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What's the name of the song(s) that TJPW plays during their VTRs? They're rock songs with female vocals and remind me of Chatmonchy/The Peggies
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What happened to Macho Man in the early nineties? He goes from being amazing and entertaining to irritating and repetitive. Did he stop giving a poo poo because Vince stuck him in commentary? Because I can't remember a drat thing he did in WCW either.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What happened to Macho Man in the early nineties? He goes from being amazing and entertaining to irritating and repetitive. Did he stop giving a poo poo because Vince stuck him in commentary? Because I can't remember a drat thing he did in WCW either. Elizabeth left him for being a psychotic abuser and it warped his brain and made him even crazier, probably mixed with personal doubts as Vince began to de-push him and tell him he's too old. He gets a bit of his mojo back as he starts having a mid-life crisis in WCW but then his body gives out and he has an even wilder mid life crisis in 99 where he can't do anything in the ring but is an absolutely crazy personality.
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e: nm, Savage won the blowoff. Eh. Feud still good.
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