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Harry Potter on Ice posted:100% a cord is not hard at all to move lmao my dad was an electric yard tool early adopter for everything except the mower, so I was the kid in 2001 dragging 200’ of orange extension cords across the lawn behind a leaf blower/string trimmer/hedge clipper/snowblower while other middle schoolers got to inhale gas fumes cord getting caught on a rock and yanked....having to run back up the driveway to find the break and plug it back in rolling everything back up at the end of the day on two big orange spools
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wesleywillis posted:What kind of blades were you using, how sharp etc... idk didnt belong to me. higher amp draw 18v power tools usually offer limited run time and/or inferior performance compared to their corded counterparts, i didnt think this was controversial. Grinders, circ saws, reciprocating saws in particular. Rufio posted:An all day demo while dragging a drat cord around, no thx. My M18 hack through it zall if you wanna do demo work with a one-handed saw knock your self out, i'll continue to use the right tool for the job Harry Potter on Ice posted:100% a cord is not hard at all to move lmao 
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Ok Comboomer posted:my dad was an electric yard tool early adopter for everything except the mower, so I was the kid in 2001 dragging 200’ of orange extension cords across the lawn behind a leaf blower/string trimmer/hedge clipper/snowblower while other middle schoolers got to inhale gas fumes This except the 80s/90s and black and decker electric mowers. No matter how much my brothers and I complained to my dad what a bitch it was to mow while dragging 200 feet of extension cord, he insisted on electric. Until we all moved out and the next summer he bought a gas mower, because apparently it is a bitch to mow dragging 200 feet of extension cord. My brothers and I still occasionally give him poo poo for it, 25 years later.
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I dunno, I still love my 13 amp corded Sawzall. Like an oxyacetylene torch, cradling it fills you with a warm glow that destruction is about to happen. I bought a 12v Hackzall on sale last spring, and it's the absolute cat's rear end for hanging in a tree cutting branches one-handed. Much better control and precision than using a manual saw. Protip: carry a spare battery in your pocket. The complaints about Milwaukee's 12v battery clips in these saws are correct: if you bind the blade during a cut the vibrations pop the battery out and you get to watch it spiralling down to the orchard floor. A spare battery saves a climb. I like the compact size of Milwaukee 12v tools and I wouldn't sell them short on power. My driver will put a 1/4" lag screw through 5" of pressure treated posts without issue. Last week I was boring some 3/8" holes in concrete and didn't have the right bit for the corded Hitachi SDS chuck percussion drill so I used the 12v driver to put the first couple of holes in. It was slow but it worked. I wouldn't make a habit of that because the nose was getting warm, but it did work. Admittedly the corded SDS drill walks though concrete like hot butter, but that's its job.
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stealie72 posted:This except the 80s/90s and black and decker electric mowers. No matter how much my brothers and I complained to my dad what a bitch it was to mow while dragging 200 feet of extension cord, he insisted on electric. Totally justifiable. Maybe one July 4th get-together, really dogpile him about it, then drag out a new battery mower for him.
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My parents bought a riding mower the first moment they didn't have any kids still around to shove the fleet of pushmowers around their 2 acres of grass.
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Ok Comboomer posted:Thanks for the reality check I think you're making this way harder for yourself than you have to. It sounds like you hate the idea of slightly overbuying, and you also hate the idea of buying something less capable. So you want a tool that has just barely enough power to do what you want, and not spend a dollar more than absolutely necessary? Those are totally incompatible desires. If you have some space in your budget, buy better tools. If you want to get something more powerful and longer lasting, that's not Ryobi. Buy either Milwaukee, DeWalt, or Makita. It's ok to buy good tools. I promise you, even if your economic situation changes in the future and you're super poor, you're not going to look back and regret buying sturdy, reliable tools. They means you don't have to pay again to replace them!
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Ok Comboomer posted:my dad was an electric yard tool early adopter for everything except the mower, so I was the kid in 2001 dragging 200’ of orange extension cords across the lawn behind a leaf blower/string trimmer/hedge clipper/snowblower while other middle schoolers got to inhale gas fumes I just had flashbacks to mowing as a kid. Garbage-tier corded electric, and a McLane reel mower with a slipping belt and a Briggs that was only something approaching happy when run with the choke on a tick to richen it up. Corded equipment is fine for when you need a lot of power/runtime, you aren't moving constantly, and you're within reasonable range of an outlet. I used a corded hedge trimmer and pole saw at my old place because if I was using one of those, I'd be standing in one spot for at least a few minutes before moving somewhere else, and my yard was small enough that a 50' cord let me reach anywhere on it.
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Uncle Enzo posted:I think you're making this way harder for yourself than you have to. It sounds like you hate the idea of slightly overbuying, and you also hate the idea of buying something less capable. So you want a tool that has just barely enough power to do what you want, and not spend a dollar more than absolutely necessary? When I said “overbuying” really I meant “buying twice something that I could buy once” My bad for lovely word choice, but also sure—overspending on way too much of a tool would also be bad. Not something I’m super concerned about since I don’t see myself “accidentally” buying something for masonry or whatever. Mainly I just don’t like the idea of buying something for $130-150 that breaks when its $160-250 sibling might not.
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Mr. Mambold posted:Narrator: It does, in fact, indicate just that.
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I grabbed the cordless saw today at the behest of the thread but I like corded better still. It’s minor but battery levels and keeping them charged is just another thing to worry about. W a cord you just grip & rip all day  
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Posting to say I too love my 15A corded Made in USA SUPER SAWZALL. That fucker weighs 15 lbs and it will break your elbow but it doesn't quit. We used to use them all the time when I worked in the shipyard and the sound of a sawzall getting stuck and vibrating the whole drat aluminum ship will forever be stuck in my ears.
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^^^^^^wowww super envious  Slugworth posted:That's really disappointing. Is there a story behind it? Bought out by some tool conglomerate? Their concrete stuff is still top of the line and priced accordingly, maybe they’re trying to make their cordless tool lineup more attainable for individuals, not just commercial operations. I know they have an all new lineup out
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Slugworth posted:That's really disappointing. Is there a story behind it? Bought out by some tool conglomerate? No idea. I was just trolling you, Chief.
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Mr. Mambold posted:No idea. I was just trolling you, Chief.
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I like cordless, but for some applications it's just not practical to use battery powered stuff. I can use the Ryobi angle grinder for like 5-10 minutes before it runs out of juice, which sucks when I got a ton to grind (car floor). The old Bosch grinder I found laying around (my dads) does a better job and can just keep on going.
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MrOnBicycle posted:I like cordless, but for some applications it's just not practical to use battery powered stuff. I can use the Ryobi angle grinder for like 5-10 minutes before it runs out of juice, which sucks when I got a ton to grind (car floor). The old Bosch grinder I found laying around (my dads) does a better job and can just keep on going. Grinders are definitely worth going corded. Cordless is fine for quick/remote stuff, but corded is way way better for everything else.
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sharkytm posted:Grinders are definitely worth going corded. Cordless is fine for quick/remote stuff, but corded is way way better for everything else. I finally joined this century and got a cordless grinder a few months ago and it rules, but it's absolutely not a replacement for my corded ones. Grinders are just massive power hogs.
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I have one of each and when the project is both small and far from a power outlet, it's really nice having the cordless option.
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Cordless grinder is essentially a cutoff saw, and I believe some are in fact marketed that way
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Yeah a cordless grinder is for lighter, short duty. If you have big jobs to do it's not the right tool. But for short jobs they really come in handy. Like if you're picking up scrap steel and you need to cut it down so you can transport it.
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Or cutting locks.
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Or catalytic converters.
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The one I scratch my head about is the battery powered miter saw. I'm not planning on moving that thing all over the place when chopping 2x4s to size. It sits in one place on the bench. I guess if I were building a log cabin in remote Alaska or something a battery powered miter might be useful. Plus a truck load of batteries. At that point surely a generator is the answer.
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Charging batteries requires a significantly smaller genny tho. (e: playing devil's advocate, I have no idea)
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spf3million posted:The one I scratch my head about is the battery powered miter saw. I'm not planning on moving that thing all over the place when chopping 2x4s to size. It sits in one place on the bench. I guess if I were building a log cabin in remote Alaska or something a battery powered miter might be useful. Plus a truck load of batteries. At that point surely a generator is the answer. Trim, flooring, parts of the house with the power off for the remodel.
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Less tripping hazards = less risk of workplace injury.
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I've got the Milwaukee battery powered miter saw and it's on a folding rolling stand. I went battery powered because my houses electrical was horrible and I only had one outlet in the garage that was shared with a bunch of the house. So high demand power tools were not great unless I wanted to swap out blown fuses. However it is pretty loving great to just roll it wherever you need to work without any cords. I even have a little battery powered shop vac to hook up to it so that dust isn't a big issue. My only regret is I got the 7-1/4" model and I should have paid more for the 10" SpartanIvy fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Mar 22, 2022 |
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wesleywillis posted:Less tripping hazards = less risk of workplace injury. I cannot agree strongly enough. Don't go to work on acid kids.
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Mr. Mambold posted:I cannot agree strongly enough. Don't go to work on acid kids. Unless you're Dock Ellis.
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Posting to say I too love my 15A corded Made in USA SUPER SAWZALL. That fucker weighs 15 lbs and it will break your elbow but it doesn't quit. We used to use them all the time when I worked in the shipyard and the sound of a sawzall getting stuck and vibrating the whole drat aluminum ship will forever be stuck in my ears. I think I have the same one and it does not gently caress around, if the blade gets pinched and stops you start moving.
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Mr. Mambold posted:I cannot agree strongly enough. Don't go to work on acid kids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy-0i4JOsY4
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drat, I got a Ryobi P747 tire/pool toy inflator. The + button didn't work at all. Called them up and within 5 minutes they had an order for a replacement shipped to me. Just needed the model # and serial #. Good customer service!
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wesleywillis posted:Less tripping hazards = less risk of workplace injury. ive heard--but have been unable to confirm--that the UK requires all cables & hoses to be run through conduit at the job site, to reduce tripping hazards. This has pushed tool manufacturers to offer more cordless everything, since the conduit is such a hassle. Dunno if true but sounds good SpeedFreek posted:I think I have the same one and it does not gently caress around, if the blade gets pinched and stops you start moving. Using one on a ladder is some good poo poo
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Gonna throw another Ridgid shop vac rec into the thread, this time it helped me drain the ~100 gallon incredibly poorly maintained pond in my backyard once I found out the sump pump my PO "graciously" left me was dead. Got my cardio in hauling buckets to my cul-de-sac storm drain, but soon that janky mosquito fuckfest of a pond will be a fever dream! 
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spf3million posted:The one I scratch my head about is the battery powered miter saw. I'm not planning on moving that thing all over the place when chopping 2x4s to size. It sits in one place on the bench. I guess if I were building a log cabin in remote Alaska or something a battery powered miter might be useful. Plus a truck load of batteries. At that point surely a generator is the answer. Imagine working a jobsite as something like a trim carpenter with 5 other contractors there. Sparkie's turning outlets off, sharing outlets and crossing extension cords, dealing with the blame when a breaker is tripped, etc, etc. Meanwhile you can trim out an entire house on one charge with the type of cuts you do for common trimwork.
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what does a power carver/reciprocating carver do better than a rotary tool? Like I get that the plane of motion is totally different, but I struggle to see the vast difference in end product. Seems like a rotary tool with the right assortment of bits would be way better at clearing through larger amounts of material quickly and also at precision carving, so what’s the value-add here? I recently saw a bonsai demo where the person used a power carver to shape some deadwood, but the whole time I’m like “everything they’re doing there most ppl would just use a Dremel for and it would be the same, if not easier” and now I’m trying to wrap my head around the use case for such a device. It doesn’t help that RYOBI is launching a power carver alongside the rotary tool in their USB Lithium line...and so I’m curious since I’m already gonna be picking up the rotary, and probably also the fancy pizza cutter thing.
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You may not be considering how much a rotary tool can run if you make a mistake but the rest is good. I think you could do more with rotary vs reciprocating if you have the correct bits. Also the finish can be rough depending on the bit used and how soft your touch is, but if you got the juice you can fix that later with some effort depending what you're going for I'm going to end up with every kutzall attachment I really love their poo poo. Make sure to get the right size if youre using a dremel not a die grinder. Get a little nylon and wire brush to clean out the gunk, or a razor. People also burn it out. Check out the flame burr, it really versatile for flowy organic shapes. Sphere burr is ridiculous for under cutting round shapes. I only run paddle switch so when poo poo goes south I let go and its generally fine. If you find more good info lemme know it's hard to find this stuff I had to troll through youtube for so long to get the algo showing me this kind of work BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Using one on a ladder is some good poo poo This is how I fell off a ladder for the first time, it happened so fuckin fast lmao whoops I'm falling?? Harry Potter on Ice fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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Johnny Truant posted:Gonna throw another Ridgid shop vac rec into the thread, this time it helped me drain the ~100 gallon incredibly poorly maintained pond in my backyard once I found out the sump pump my PO "graciously" left me was dead. FYI you can get a pump attachment that will attach to the drain at the bottom, so you can suck up water with the vacuum, then pump it somewhere else through a garden hose. Also, gotta say there's (at least) one exception to the "buy from a good brand and you'll be fine" rule. Don't buy a Ryobi stick vacuum. I'm kinda mad I didn't do more research like I usually do, I just bought it assuming it'd be fine. I paid $169 for the thing, without battery, and the mesh filter clogs up after about 5 minutes of use. Meanwhile, a couple weeks ago I bought, on a whim a cheap cordless cyclonic stick vac from Aldi for like $90, and it has way more suction and doesn't immediately clog. If Aldi can get a decent cyclonic stick vac, Ryobi should be able to find someone that will manufacture a cyclonic vacuum for them.
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FISHMANPET posted:Also, gotta say there's (at least) one exception to the "buy from a good brand and you'll be fine" rule. Don't buy a Ryobi stick vacuum. I'm kinda mad I didn't do more research like I usually do, I just bought it assuming it'd be fine. I paid $169 for the thing, without battery, and the mesh filter clogs up after about 5 minutes of use. Meanwhile, a couple weeks ago I bought, on a whim a cheap cordless cyclonic stick vac from Aldi for like $90, and it has way more suction and doesn't immediately clog. If Aldi can get a decent cyclonic stick vac, Ryobi should be able to find someone that will manufacture a cyclonic vacuum for them. Ryobi is releasing a revised stick vac in the near future too so hopefully they'll fix the problems with the old one
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