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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




BoldFace posted:

Four Russian helicopters being shot down. Allegedly from this morning.
:nms:
https://twitter.com/shcherbininainn/status/1506961223589548032

Are we sure this is not a video game?

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alex314
Nov 22, 2007

BoldFace posted:

Four Russian helicopters being shot down. Allegedly from this morning.
:nms:
https://twitter.com/shcherbininainn/status/1506961223589548032

Looks fake to me, even if they were ambushed after first tracers/missiles they'd start popping flares and GTFO.

mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

ZombieLenin posted:

We will see how (and if) RT covers this story. “Burning our ships at the dock was part of our plan all along!”

"The front fell off."

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

keep punching joe posted:

It's like some Wizard of Oz poo poo. Everyone just going along with the story that the Russian military is #2 in the world.

i mean i get it. Russia was always the "big rival" of the US and the wolf in the woods of europe so various analysits and WW2/cold war built up the legend of the russian military being a Peer to peer with the west. was it decades ago, possibly, Now? gently caress no.


BoldFace posted:

Four Russian helicopters being shot down. Allegedly from this morning.
:nms:
https://twitter.com/shcherbininainn/status/1506961223589548032

holy gently caress, that looks like something out of a movie. poor fucks never had a chance. if the make is right. those a state of the art too.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004


Pretty obviously a computer game.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

KitConstantine posted:

Russians got sick of the Shoigu talk apparently
https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1506962744284782593?t=Tpm6SHZfiic6Tdx5qdn2Dw&s=19
No telling if there's a gun just out of frame. But he ain't dead yet I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tvAjX5ACPo

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

alex314 posted:

Looks fake to me, even if they were ambushed after first tracers/missiles they'd start popping flares and GTFO.

According to the comments it's from ARMA 3, but I don't know that game so :shrug:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




KitConstantine posted:

No telling if there's a gun just out of frame. But he ain't dead yet I guess.

Not to play too much into conspiracy, but I reckon there’s plenty of recorded footage of him to play on a video call, if they wanted to. Also, something weird is going on with his video frame, if you pay attention to it from the start.

Ideally though we should get a video of Shoygu explaining the Kyiv battle plan to a conference room full of air stewards.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

BoldFace posted:

Four Russian helicopters being shot down. Allegedly from this morning.
:nms:
https://twitter.com/shcherbininainn/status/1506961223589548032

Don't have a Twit account to view that but one of the comments says it's footage from Arma 3.

Confirmed?

Wuxi
Apr 3, 2012

Besides Macron wanting those sweet diplomatic wins for the election, it seems like for Putin there are only 3 real countries in Europe anyway, France, Germany and Russia and a bunch of vassal states. Scholz just won his election and probably has stuff to do to get his domestic policies done. He also seems to be very done with Putins poo poo in general, so its up to Macron to keep some semblance of diplomatic pressure up.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Just Another Lurker posted:

Don't have a Twit account to view that but one of the comments says it's footage from Arma 3.

Confirmed?

Every explosion is identical

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Russians sending more targets wait I mean generals into Ukraine. On the western Kyiv front even!
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1506960549703303175?t=2-MI0uFwhyDTDUzdYw0kUg&s=19

*Ahem* :lol:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

fatherboxx posted:

Every explosion is identical

All successful explosions are alike, every unsuccessful explosion is unsuccessful in its own way

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

I like dunking on Macron, but...

https://twitter.com/RockStroke/status/1503499156362510337

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Also hadn't seen this posted yet but if it's any indication of how far Ukrainians have pushed onto Kherson Oblast the Russians are in trouble
https://twitter.com/suspilne_news/status/1506934744860270595?t=Ab-fnzV2-k84yLilDgT0xg&s=19
I can't imagine Russian troops letting it stay up if they had the time to remove it

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




KitConstantine posted:

According to the comments it's from ARMA 3, but I don't know that game so :shrug:

It’s a classical source for fake war footage, including such esteems user as Russia’s Ministry of Defence. If it’s Arma, then I guess we maintain the tradition of poorly scripted air combat videos made up in Arma, like this one that was passed around like Armenian air defence fighting an Azerbaijani plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97NVvWgRNCA

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice

Just Another Lurker posted:

Don't have a Twit account to view that but one of the comments says it's footage from Arma 3.

Confirmed?
I play Arma, and I recognize some of the buildings from the game even through the lovely video quality.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

KitConstantine posted:

Russians sending more targets wait I mean generals into Ukraine. On the western Kyiv front even!
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1506960549703303175?t=2-MI0uFwhyDTDUzdYw0kUg&s=19

*Ahem* :lol:

Wake up, babe, new Elusive Target just dropped

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011

Just Another Lurker posted:

Don't have a Twit account to view that but one of the comments says it's footage from Arma 3.

Confirmed?

I can see it being fake, so I edited my original post. Still, it seems to have been posted on Ukrainian Armed Forces Telegram channel, so maybe they got fooled, too.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Vox Nihili posted:

The various generals, soldiers, ministers, bureaucrats, etc. in Russia are all human beings capable of feelings of empathy and comraderie just like yourself. They aren't just mindless monsters who are eager to trample on the backs of their own dead for an opportunity to mutilate their enemy.

Look I know there are plenty of people in the Russian army that would be more than welling to help other they are serving with, and there would be plenty of people with morals in the Russians army, particularly amongst the conscripts tricked into joining. The people higher up in the Russian government however seems to go out of their way to poo poo on their own army as much as possible and authoritarian regimes don't general let you get higher into positions of power if you have morals, or at least if you have morals, and spine enough to try and use them.

Just Another Lurker posted:

Don't have a Twit account to view that but one of the comments says it's footage from Arma 3.

Confirmed?

Not sure where the footage is from but the tweet said "Valery Zaluzhny said that four K-52 helicopters of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" and google isn't showing anyone else saying he said that, or any other mention of any of this. So yeah, sus as hell.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1506952421599330307

Impressively shameless.

KitConstantine posted:

Russians sending more targets wait I mean generals into Ukraine. On the western Kyiv front even!
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1506960549703303175?t=2-MI0uFwhyDTDUzdYw0kUg&s=19

*Ahem* :lol:

The guy at 35 seconds is so loving done with it, haha.

Captain Kosmos
Mar 28, 2010

think of it like the "Who's Who" of genitals


Oh man, I have been duped by propaganda.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Timelapse of the attacked ships. :nws: just in case, but just a boat burning from long distance, but oh boy is it burning.

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1506970296053551109

a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat
Hungary seems to add a serious dose of WTF in the mix. Of course I lack the context on both the Twitter rando and the people being cited, but the Hungarian election will be one to watch.

https://twitter.com/AlexanderFaludy/status/1506952893412384773

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

cinci zoo sniper posted:

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...etings-12573539

Apparently U.K. pledged 6k more missiles (probably a mix of NLAWs, Javelins, and Starstreak) to be delivered to Ukraine. I really doubt Ukraine is at risk of western weapons supply running that dry.

starstreak is the coolest missile name

Barrel Cactaur
Oct 6, 2021

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Are we sure this is not a video game?



That is definitely Arma 3, but with some really decent mods. The dead giveaway is the smoke ring at impact and the prefab build tower in the background.

E: Other things that stand out, the body has no internal momentum, I'm sure you can see in enough of the real combat footage that they usually twist to the side and then turn over when destroyed. ARMA helicopters tend to just tilt forward. Real helicopters tend to go down bathing themselves with flames, Arma ones get a black soot texture plastered on the sides but otherwise look clean.

Barrel Cactaur fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Mar 24, 2022

PC LOAD LETTER
May 23, 2005
WTF?!

cinci zoo sniper posted:

Apparently U.K. pledged 6k more missiles (probably a mix of NLAWs, Javelins, and Starstreak) to be delivered to Ukraine. I really doubt Ukraine is at risk of western weapons supply running that dry.

Has there been any action reports of how well the Starstreak works in the field?

I know UK MoD is very proud of it, and it sounds like it'll trash any jet or plane that gets hit with it, but getting hits in the first place with it sounds...difficult.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Grouchio posted:

What is it with French politicians more often than not still being neo-colonial megalos? I suppose my assumption of post-Gaullist france having mellowed down was fiercly incorrect?

France actually got the security deal Russia wanted in 1989; one that let them keep their empire.

There’s an timeline out there somewhere where Congress is debating Russian threats to withdraw from the Ukraine entirely unless they get more military support for their peacekeeping operations.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

KitConstantine posted:

Russians got sick of the Shoigu talk apparently
https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1506962744284782593?t=Tpm6SHZfiic6Tdx5qdn2Dw&s=19
No telling if there's a gun just out of frame. But he ain't dead yet I guess.

Have we considered the possibility that Putin hasn't actually done anything to Shoigu yet, the dude's just spending his days getting completely and utterly blackout shitfaced due to the stress of dealing with the war and worry about what Putin MIGHT do to him?

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Barrel Cactaur posted:



That is definitely Arma 3, but with some really decent mods. The dead giveaway is the smoke ring at impact and the prefab build tower in the background.

Wow, the clouds, and the fact the smoke from the first impact is moved by the next helicopter passing through it are some seriously impressive work. I remember cloud tech was a selling point for Arma 3, but the dynamic smoke blows me away.

But yeah other than anything, the way the camera moves and zooms is a dead givaway - I can practially hear the scroll wheel in those zooms.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

a podcast for cats posted:

Hungary seems to add a serious dose of WTF in the mix. Of course I lack the context on both the Twitter rando and the people being cited, but the Hungarian election will be one to watch.

https://twitter.com/AlexanderFaludy/status/1506952893412384773

Hungary has not been allowing shipments to Ukraine through their territory. There were also reports from the Ukrainian government earlier this week [edit: may have been last week, it's early and I'm undercaffinated] of Russia pushing anti-Hungarian texts to Ukrainian residents in the Ukrainian part of the Transcarpathian region as a false flag.

Sounds like Hungary and Russia have been talking and Hungary is looking to get some of their own back from Ukraine if Russia takes over. Hungary is in NATO though so this kind of rhetoric seems...risky.

Not to mention there have been multiple videos from the Ukrainian TDF training in the Zakarpattia region, aka the region he's discussing.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
I hate to bring this up again, but

https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1506847067813163010

where in this statement does it even imply that the U.S. is defineitly going to get directly involved in the conflict if Putin uses a tactical nuke? "All bets are off" is pretty vague

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Barrel Cactaur posted:



That is definitely Arma 3, but with some really decent mods. The dead giveaway is the smoke ring at impact and the prefab build tower in the background.

yeah. its too uniform and the "clean" to be real sadly.


Ola posted:

Timelapse of the attacked ships. :nws: just in case, but just a boat burning from long distance, but oh boy is it burning.

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1506970296053551109


so one ship dead and 2 damaged, probably enough to keep them out of action for a week or so.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Tomn posted:

Have we considered the possibility that Putin hasn't actually done anything to Shoigu yet, the dude's just spending his days getting completely and utterly blackout shitfaced due to the stress of dealing with the war and worry about what Putin MIGHT do to him?

Shoigu got killed in Ukraine and Putin is too embarrassed to admit it

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Willo567 posted:

I hate to bring this up again, but

https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1506847067813163010

where in this statement does it even imply that the U.S. is defineitly going to get directly involved in the conflict if Putin uses a tactical nuke? "All bets are off" is pretty vague

i mean there is a pretty clear redline there and my guess is this is more directed at moscow then US/domestic. "don't be a dipshit and nuke anything or else it starts bad poo poo" is an ok redline.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah. its too uniform and the "clean" to be real sadly.

so one ship dead and 2 damaged, probably enough to keep them out of action for a week or so.

Waiting for that Blue and Yellow tug to come along.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Hmmm now Russia is pissing off private rail freight operators.
https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1506975933797916674?s=20&t=HbWveFsPj-JG1Kf7x_BHqQ

Machine translation from the article:

quote:

The initiative to consolidate the fleet of operators under the control of Russian Railways, expressed in a sharp form on March 22 by Valentina Matvienko, resulted in real actions. The government apparatus appealed to the Ministry of Transport, the Federal Antimonopoly Service, JSC Russian Railways and the Union of Railway Transport Operators (SOZHT) with a request until April 10 to “work out and provide an agreed position on the formation of a consolidated fleet of cars to ensure socially significant transportation and fulfill state tasks, as well as the development of evacuation tools unclaimed empty wagons that interfere with the movement of goods "(" Kommersant saw the document).

Ms. Matvienko put forward the idea at a meeting of senators with Oleg Belozerov, the head of the Russian Railways JSC, and accompanied her speech with harsh criticism of private operators: “They earned enough, having received railcars almost free of charge from the state. Enough, now let them turn on. Those who show responsibility remain in the market, and those who do not, thank you, goodbye ... This is not how they work in a mobilization economy ... The railway must always strictly fulfill the sovereign's tasks during the mobilization period, including those who rubbed themselves into the railroad.

Unsurpisingly, the article also has quotes from private rail operators that are shocked and unhappy about the above messaging. They also assert that they did in fact have to pay real money for their rail equipment.

Something to watch.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




BoldFace posted:

I can see it being fake, so I edited my original post. Still, it seems to have been posted on Ukrainian Armed Forces Telegram channel, so maybe they got fooled, too.

The thread claims it’s from the official Ministry of Defence Telegram channel. Problem is that UA MoD doesn’t appear to run a Telegram channel at all - or at the very least it has eluded 20 minutes of my searching efforts.

cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Mar 24, 2022

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean there is a pretty clear redline there and my guess is this is more directed at moscow then US/domestic. "don't be a dipshit and nuke anything or else it starts bad poo poo" is an ok redline.
Which in essence makes the situation less shaky, right?

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Ola
Jul 19, 2004

GABA ghoul posted:

Shoigu got killed in Ukraine and Putin is too embarrassed to admit it

My bet is killed with poison and they are biding their time so the news can make his illness appear more gradual.

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