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Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1506980199971311616

Longer range targeting? Good on the UK to at least be helping out, but that sounds kind of ominous.


Edit: according to the Twitter thread below, it seems hackers have taken down a bunch of Belarus' online government infrastructure, including internal networks.

https://twitter.com/MotolkoHelp/status/1506971693138563075

Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Mar 24, 2022

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

If I had to guess, it'll go up slightly, but its gonna crash back down again.

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

mobby_6kl posted:

Wasn't there a Crimea campaign in Lock On? I remember shooting a bunch of ruskies there.

Don't know for LOMAC, but the predecessors (Flanker, Flanker 2) were based in Crimea, in a NATO-aligned Ukraine vs Russia hypothetical conflict.

Cimber
Feb 3, 2014
I haven't been keeping up to the news the past 24-48 hours. What happened with that rumor about counterattacks and possible pocketing of Russian troops north of Kyiv?

Wuxi
Apr 3, 2012

KitConstantine posted:

Okay so I thought this was just Russian Q Anon spinning up even more
https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/1506978631804932097?s=20&t=37Uk61SgNc_BGY0fqswefw
But! Turns out part of this is coming straight from the Russian ministry of defense :lol:
https://twitter.com/DrRadchenko/status/1506977719355166726?s=20&t=37Uk61SgNc_BGY0fqswefw
What the gently caress is going on

Does anyone in Russia even give the slightest of fucks about Hunter Biden? This seems tailor-made for US chuds

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

KitConstantine posted:

Okay so I thought this was just Russian Q Anon spinning up even more
https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/1506978631804932097?s=20&t=37Uk61SgNc_BGY0fqswefw
But! Turns out part of this is coming straight from the Russian ministry of defense :lol:
https://twitter.com/DrRadchenko/status/1506977719355166726?s=20&t=37Uk61SgNc_BGY0fqswefw
What the gently caress is going on

Joe Biden's drug addict failson is *also* the genius mastermind behind COVID is not the plot twist I expected.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

KitConstantine posted:

Okay so I thought this was just Russian Q Anon spinning up even more
https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/1506978631804932097?s=20&t=37Uk61SgNc_BGY0fqswefw
But! Turns out part of this is coming straight from the Russian ministry of defense :lol:
https://twitter.com/DrRadchenko/status/1506977719355166726?s=20&t=37Uk61SgNc_BGY0fqswefw
What the gently caress is going on
Well, why bother with troll factories and anonymity when you can feed idiots conspiracy theories directly.

Suzuran
Sep 14, 2012

Thank you, this is my new Favorite Word of the Now.

Wylie
Jun 27, 2005

Ever to conquer, never to yield.


Eric Cantonese posted:

Not having lived during the Prague Spring, Hungary 1956 or the Cuban Missile Crisis but having endured the 1980s, this isn't quite right. This is way hotter and direct and worrisome than what I remember.

Yeah, the 80's were more "is Reagan or whatever senile Communist is currently in charge at the Kremlin going to push the big glowing red button or not?" than this is. Nobody ever feared a ground war in Europe, we figured it would start and end with nukes.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Lock the thread, frame this post, we have found it, the golden core, the alchemist stone, the culmination of all things Something Awful.

The best post on the internet.

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

Reiterpallasch posted:

didn't get a chance to say this last night when getting dogpiled, but is this supposed to be about the front now? there's no way it's cold enough for people to be getting frostbite in this weather, is there? i'd believe 50% trench foot first, in this mud...

Frostbite is a disease that takes time for the full ramifications to develop.

Gervasius
Nov 2, 2010



Grimey Drawer

FishMcCool posted:

Don't know for LOMAC, but the predecessors (Flanker, Flanker 2) were based in Crimea, in a NATO-aligned Ukraine vs Russia hypothetical conflict.

This is US Navy Fighters (1994) erasure.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Angry_Ed posted:

Wonder how many of those predictors also have a Groverhaus (Groverdacha?) Of their own

100%, building a horrible dacha with a horrible sauna is a national pastime

Ukrainian twitter in peacetime used to have a meme about mini-bar - asking any agressive Russian on twitter about their mini-bar more than often resulted in a picture of a whiskey collection inside a Soviet wardrobe that the owner was really proud about.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506988113939386372
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506989930274246665

According to this, Russia may be fielding more conscripts and mercs to fill up the ranks down after the large number of causalities so far, though how those will integrate with the existing deployments is anyone's guess.

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

mobby_6kl posted:

:laffo:


ArmA is pretty good but Operation Flashpoint is still one of my all-time favorites. Just sneaking though the forests for hours to evede russian patrols, then stealing a car and booknig it back to safety. Ahh, back when this was all fantasy.



Hind... FOUR O'CLOCK at..... five hundred

BMP.......is......FINISHED

SPETZNATS!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Saoshyant posted:

https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506988113939386372
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506989930274246665

According to this, Russia may be fielding more conscripts and mercs to fill up the ranks down after the large number of causalities so far, though how those will integrate with the existing deployments is anyone's guess.


Yeah but with what supplies. Unless they go full Stalingrad and just shove them out the door and tell them to pick up ammo as they find it, this may work in the long run but its gonna be visibly awful.

Electric Wrigglies posted:

Hind... FOUR O'CLOCK at..... five hundred

BMP.......is......FINISHED

SPETZNATS!

OH NO....2....IS DOWN.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Wylie posted:

Yeah, the 80's were more "is Reagan or whatever senile Communist is currently in charge at the Kremlin going to push the big glowing red button or not?" than this is. Nobody ever feared a ground war in Europe, we figured it would start and end with nukes.

Living in Norway as a precocious kid/teenager in the 80s, I distinctly remember worrying about a ground war and THEN nukes.

fnox
May 19, 2013




I know nothing about stock markets, but couldn't they just cook the numbers? Or otherwise manipulate the market until it spits out nicer numbers to report?

Fray
Oct 22, 2010

Cimber posted:

I haven't been keeping up to the news the past 24-48 hours. What happened with that rumor about counterattacks and possible pocketing of Russian troops north of Kyiv?

Info is sparse but there’s definitely a counterattack that has taken ground. There’s probably not an actual encirclement yet (as of the end of yesterday) but one doesn’t look very far off either. Supposedly the Russians also tried a counter-counterattack west of Ivankiv that doesn’t sound like it made headway.

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

That doesn't quite have the same ring now does it?

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



CommieGIR posted:

Yeah but with what supplies. Unless they go full Stalingrad and just shove them out the door and tell them to pick up ammo as they find it, this may work in the long run but its gonna be visibly awful.


I think we've seen basically a neverending stream of "Russia about to deploy _____!!!!!" pieces over the last two weeks and... none? of them have been real. Unless you consider some Kadyrovites riding over to get blown up

At this point I will believe they have the logistics to deploy additional thousands of reserves and conscripts when US intelligence tells us that they've mobilized those thousands of people and moved them to the border and are deploying them

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Electric Wrigglies posted:

Hind... FOUR O'CLOCK at..... five hundred

BMP.......is......FINISHED

SPETZNATS!

I am still amazed at one point Arma 3 automatic voice callout gave me

UKNNOWN UKNOWN ... AT... UNKNOWN, BEARING... UNKNOWN

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


CommieGIR posted:

Yeah but with what supplies. Unless they go full Stalingrad and just shove them out the door and tell them to pick up ammo as they find it, this may work in the long run but its gonna be visibly awful.

Definitively a good question. Even us onlookers are aware that Russia's progress has stalled completely down to the field troops not getting supplies, no new supply routes being secured, and no proper logistics being planned.

As per the wise words of a Ukrainian soldier: "thank god they are so loving bad at this".

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"
This is good, previous US efforts to help Ukrainian refugees was really limited (I think the estimate was we only settled 7 previously).

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1506988664957644808

Pookah posted:

Same.
I was only a little kid for most of the 80s, and while I was afraid of nuclear war, the Cold War then really did feel very static. Plus Gorbachev never came off as a scary or evil guy.

Just the other day, I remembered Samantha Smith, the 10-year-old American girl who wrote a letter to Yuri Andropov asking if there was going to be a war. Andropov personally wrote a touching reply and invited her to visit the Soviet Union.

I had a laugh imagining what Putin would do in that situation.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012
I assume they will start training conscripts at the start of April, paralel to gathering supplies and then launch them into battle in May. It is entirely possible they will dig in as hard as they can and wager that Ukrainians will be tired of fighting by May and fresh bodies led by somewhat experienced mercenaries help them win the war.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

CommieGIR posted:

If I had to guess, it'll go up slightly, but its gonna crash back down again.

Will it though? How independent is the Russian stock exchange, and if there's no outside people buying and selling can the Russian government just gently caress with it?
I mean the seem happy just loving with the value of the ruble, seems like if they have the ability to make it look like their stock market isn't crashing they will be more then happy to do what ever they need to, to keep up appearances.

PC LOAD LETTER
May 23, 2005
WTF?!
Didn't that guy who has been confirming via photo all the destroyed trucks and tanks say that the Russians have lost nearly 1,000 Ural trucks so far?

I think for any army that much shipping equipment getting toasted would be a big problem.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

Gervasius posted:

This is US Navy Fighters (1994) erasure.

God I wish someone would make a new US Navy Fighters. I probably spent more time with that and Falcon 3.0 than just about anything back in the early/mid 90s. Falcon 4.0 and the LOMAC/DCS addiction came later.

I kind of don't know what happened to all the hardcore sims on the PC in general. It's like 2001 happened and they all went the way of the dodo.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Saoshyant posted:

https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506988113939386372
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1506989930274246665

According to this, Russia may be fielding more conscripts and mercs to fill up the ranks down after the large number of causalities so far, though how those will integrate with the existing deployments is anyone's guess.
I suppose it's another 'plan' like they had with Syrian fighters or Belarusian front and whatnot.
I doubt there are many mercs willing to die on an actual battlefield instead of just bullying civilians and committing war crimes in some forgotten country.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Kikas posted:

I assume they will start training conscripts at the start of April, paralel to gathering supplies and then launch them into battle in May. It is entirely possible they will dig in as hard as they can and wager that Ukrainians will be tired of fighting by May and fresh bodies led by somewhat experienced mercenaries help them win the war.

At an estimated 1,000 casualties per day, there won't be a Russian army in many places in Ukraine by May.

There's no world in which this timeframe works, where Russia conscripts some teenagers and rushes them through a training camp starting in April while Ukraine began full mobilization and proper training for its (much more motivated, better supplied, often already with military experience from previous mandatory service) reserves several weeks ago.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

dr_rat posted:

Will it though? How independent is the Russian stock exchange, and if there's no outside people buying and selling can the Russian government just gently caress with it?
I mean the seem happy just loving with the value of the ruble, seems like if they have the ability to make it look like their stock market isn't crashing they will be more then happy to do what ever they need to, to keep up appearances.

They haven't replaced the multitude of supplies they are importing like electronics, food items, etc. It will likely crash again. Despite what Russia is claiming, they can't just 'nationalize' factories without the globalized supplies these factories needed to operate and produce. And given even before this, corruption and outright theft in the production of components, especially military ones, was rampant, unless they are suddenly going to tighten that belt? They cannot just 'replace' these lost companies and logistics.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





William Bear posted:


Just the other day, I remembered Samantha Smith, the 10-year-old American girl who wrote a letter to Yuri Andropov asking if there was going to be a war. Andropov personally wrote a touching reply and invited her to visit the Soviet Union.

I had a laugh imagining what Putin would do in that situation.

I'd never heard about this incident, it's really striking how completely the tone has changed between then and the Putin regime.

a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat

A reasonably well off friend of mine from Daugavpils messaged me not 30 minutes ago, saying he bought a lot of stock on MOEX just before shutdown and fully expects to be rich when this blows over. I'm reasonably sure he's taking the piss, but lol if he isn't.

with a rebel yell she QQd posted:

This dude is the ex director of national TV and currently "content advisor" of state controlled media. Almost a random Hungarian posting poo poo on the internet.

Cheers for that, I had no context whatsoever and this helps to put it back into where it belongs.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Electric Wrigglies posted:

Hind... FOUR O'CLOCK at..... five hundred

BMP.......is......FINISHED

SPETZNATS!

Operation Flashpoint's expansion Resistance is very relevant, it even has a mission to steal a bunch of tanks from literally under the Russians' noses

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Pookah posted:

I'd never heard about this incident, it's really striking how completely the tone has changed between then and the Putin regime.

Russia has also returned to the "de-nazification and demilitarization" demands
https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1506992164068278273?s=20&t=0hQWAqLeWGQtA64taGmgcQ

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Pookah posted:

I'd never heard about this incident, it's really striking how completely the tone has changed between then and the Putin regime.

I remember when that poor girl died in a plane crash. She was a big deal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Smith

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

This wish was granted by Former DILF
https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1506906608504295427?t=Nnw9p0JV_grMaRfQMpJKtA&s=19

Ive got to say as someone who supports UKR and has relatives in Syria, I'm really not a fan of this tweet. There's no need to make comparisons between the two and minimize the 10 year war in Syria. Really not sure what they're going for here (it's also not really correct).

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Eric Cantonese posted:

I remember when that poor girl died in a plane crash. She was a big deal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Smith
There's a fountain statue of her inside Portland ME's public library.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

KitConstantine posted:

Russia has also returned to the "de-nazification and demilitarization" demands
https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1506992164068278273?s=20&t=0hQWAqLeWGQtA64taGmgcQ

That map seems to include the DNR and LNR as part of Ukraine.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

KitConstantine posted:

Russia has also returned to the "de-nazification and demilitarization" demands
https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1506992164068278273?s=20&t=0hQWAqLeWGQtA64taGmgcQ

Have they ever stepped away from that?

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