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Antigravitas posted:Die Linke is full of Putinversteher. They operate on "NATO bad, Putin against NATO, hence Putin good". yeah i feel like Europe realizes that Russia is the Wolf in the woods again and even though its injured, its probably not gonna stop until putins gone or his power is broken. The US realizes that too. most appeasement poo poo is dead now and i am curious how damaged various hard right parties are now that putins money won't flow and that everyone is kinda on to it.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Plenty of all-caps there. But not exclusively. And also:  I guess First Squawk does a .toUpperCase somewhere in their flow and they should be PUNISHED derail over. Will it apply to foreign journalists as well? Maybe they are trying quash the feedback loop Russians are getting through interviews posted on YouTube or other channels yet to be banned.
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fatherboxx posted:Russian reserves of copium wont hold for long at this pace Maybe they can supply the reserves with some canned copium
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CommieGIR posted:Why would negotiations make any progress? As far as we know, Putin hasn't changed his demands, none of which Zelenskyy will ever agree with. Then again, NYT is running “Zelensky Says Ukraine Is ‘Ready’ to Discuss Neutrality” as its top story. Dumbest idea ever if true.
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Orban talked about Ukraine's demands on radio. https://telex.hu/english/2022/03/28/orban-what-the-ukrainians-are-asking-us-is-to-bring-hungarys-economy-to-a-complete-halt “The question for Hungary isn’t whether we are willing to pay a bit more for energy, and thus help Ukraine – if that were possible, we would do it. The question is: whether anything will come in those pipes at all.” “What the Ukrainians are asking us to do is essentially to stop the entire Hungarian economy, to lose years of development again, and for our economy’s performance to fall back to the level where it was 8-10, or who knows how many years ago”.
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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:Then again, NYT is running “Zelensky Says Ukraine Is ‘Ready’ to Discuss Neutrality” as its top story. He's been saying it for like 3 weeks. What that means is: "sure, we will agree to not be in NATO if we get real binding security guarantees from US, France, and a bunch of other countries".
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with a rebel yell she QQd posted:Orban talked about Ukraine's demands on radio. "How can I make this all about me?" - Orban Sounds like someone we know...
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Antigravitas posted:Die Linke is full of Putinversteher. They operate on "NATO bad, Putin against NATO, hence Putin good". Lmao, they're getting their just deserts. Not a single seat in a small state formerly known for being a Die Linke stronghold, I bet they'll never acknowledge what led to this 
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Ukraine's conception of neutrality (enforced with security guarantees from europe, ukraine keeps military) is pretty much 100% opposed to the Russian demand for neutrality (ukraine has no military, russia denazifys, ukraine prevented from joining EU/NATO)
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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:Then again, NYT is running “Zelensky Says Ukraine Is ‘Ready’ to Discuss Neutrality” as its top story. NYT sucks, my guess is they are open to not join nato and will make some other negotiations but thats it. neither side is gonna give in unless major defeats happen. Herstory Begins Now posted:Ukraine's conception of neutrality (enforced with security guarantees from europe, ukraine keeps military) is pretty much 100% opposed to the Russian demand for neutrality (ukraine has no military, russia denazifys, ukraine prevented from joining EU/NATO) this. with a rebel yell she QQd posted:Orban talked about Ukraine's demands on radio. i think Orban loses in the next election and poo poo kicks off if he tries to cheat. its very clear that he would be fine if russia invaded his own country if he gets to play puppet king.
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MrYenko posted:In other news, the Mrs and I have been watching Servant of the People on Netflix. It’s not Earth-shaking-amazing, but he’s a genuinely funny guy. This is a pretty good statement of Ukrainian foreign policy. https://twitter.com/nocontext_sotp/status/1505307085935988736
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Shageletic posted:This turned my stomach. Venting about the army means we should cheer when they're pulled out of their car and made to recant at gunpoint? Sickening poo poo. I have no idea how you deduced that the prescription here is to cheer for degradation of civil order. The guy’s rant went far beyond just venting, but the consequences do not appear to have been meted out with due diligence.
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OddObserver posted:He's been saying it for like 3 weeks. What that means is: "sure, we will agree to not be in NATO if we get real binding security guarantees from US, France, and a bunch of other countries". Herstory Begins Now posted:Ukraine's conception of neutrality (enforced with security guarantees from europe, ukraine keeps military) is pretty much 100% opposed to the Russian demand for neutrality (ukraine has no military, russia denazifys, ukraine prevented from joining EU/NATO) Good to know, thanks.
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https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1508432170628562957?s=21&t=Y1F6hO0JNkadl62r_RMKww
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OddObserver posted:He's been saying it for like 3 weeks. What that means is: "sure, we will agree to not be in NATO if we get real binding security guarantees from US, France, and a bunch of other countries". Yeah but at that point, what's the difference with just being in NATO? Ukraine is obviously right to ask for those guarantees because the same coming from Russia would be completely worthless, but that's also why Russia won't accept that.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think Orban loses in the next election
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i think Orban loses in the next election and poo poo kicks off if he tries to cheat. its very clear that he would be fine if russia invaded his own country if he gets to play puppet king. I think you are wrong about him losing but...  “The Hungarian position is the morally correct one." - This blew my mind. I can't even imagine how hosed up you have to be to claim this. Edit: Dwesa posted:Eh, I doubt it, afaik Fidesz was still doing better than opposition in polls just few days ago. Yup, Fidesz is 2% ahead.
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with a rebel yell she QQd posted:I think you are wrong about him losing but... i fully admit i am not an expert so i probably am. my view is everyone in easter europe realizes they might be next and most hungarians don't like the idea of their dumbshit nazi president kissing putins rear end and being ok with the horror show right next door. because many probably think if russia wanted to, they would just tell/pay off orban and he would stand down or become some figurehead.
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https://twitter.com/kevinrothrock/status/1508432594756640777 Time to forget Russian. https://twitter.com/kevinrothrock/status/1508425822574682115
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To be fair they've only had a month.
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uXs posted:Yeah but at that point, what's the difference with just being in NATO? Technically it would mean guarantees against another invasion but no bases and none of the typical coordination NATO countries have on defense. In reality some "neutral" countries like Sweden and Finland can still have pretty close military ties to NATO while not being in it but it's all a moot point because Putin doesn't want a "neutrality" that leaves Ukraine with any agency or ability to resist a second invasion. Zelensky can bring it up though to show Russia is negotiating in bad faith since it should meet their stated goals on "neutrality" while not being anything they'd ever accept since it was a sham reason for invasion. Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Is this real? A month ago I would had claimed this total BS... https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1508426419273142278
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Yeah I have no confirmation on any of the validity of this as I just saw it pop up right now. That said the Soviet used to sign (like the Germans) poo poo that you wouldn’t believe somebody actually reduced to writing so… https://twitter.com/mylovanov/status/1508436042407464969?s=21&t=lOxStwyzZLgW8IF4VlFAHw Also looking at the machine translated one in the replies of the original source it’s allegedly signed by the new temporary head of the Ministry of defense. So who knows!
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William Bear posted:This is a pretty good statement of Ukrainian foreign policy. Another Zelensky pre-politics thing that was posted a couple weeks back in this thread and/or another one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOSrw9Q8rc
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Ola posted:That account usually tweets about humdrum financial poo poo, and everything is always in caps lock. What do they think they're achieving? CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL 
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Yeah I have no confirmation on any of the validity of this as I just saw it pop up right now. That said the Soviet used to sign (like the Germans) poo poo that you wouldn’t believe somebody actually reduced to writing so… Any time there is a presumed leaked document signed by high ranking officials just be certain that it is fake.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Might be a faint to slowly pull back to the East/keep Kyiv forces pinned down. Or putin decided to try a Zerg rush it again. I'd hesitate to apply any rational overarching grand strategy to... well, just about anything Russia has done or seems to be doing so far. There may be some overall Russian military genius pulling on the strings with deft feints, encirclements and tactics. Maybe up 'til now they were even good enough to make it appear as if it's just a bunch of commanders who don't really know what's going on doing their own thing with terrible logistics. But, uh, it could also just be a bunch of commanders who don't know what's going on doing their own thing with terrible logistics.
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Ideal_id posted:Is this real? A month ago I would had claimed this total BS... Nothing in Russian news, as far as I can tell. For what it’s worth, he’s been a Maj. Gen. of the national guard for nearly 2 years already.
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Ideal_id posted:Is this real? A month ago I would had claimed this total BS... Weird career move for Josh from Red Letter Media
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fatherboxx posted:Any time there is a presumed leaked document signed by high ranking officials just be certain that it is fake. lol also isn't that the same anon account that claimed to have hacked russian nuclear power plants and railroads and poo poo i think we all know better than to trust that as a primary source
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Yeah I have no confirmation on any of the validity of this as I just saw it pop up right now. That said the Soviet used to sign (like the Germans) poo poo that you wouldn’t believe somebody actually reduced to writing so… Topicality is always suspect.
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Ideal_id posted:Is this real? A month ago I would had claimed this total BS...
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Xachariah posted:I'd hesitate to apply any rational overarching grand strategy to... well, just about anything Russia has done or seems to be doing so far. There's a new Minister of Defense who might be more competent than Shoigu.
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The X-man cometh posted:There's a new Minister of Defense who might be more competent than Shoigu. No, Shoygu is still the minister.
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Feliday Melody posted:Finland would sooner greet Russia as liberators than Ukraine Alexander II the Tsar Liberator. There is even a statue of him still standing in the Senate square in Helsinki and many streets are named after him.
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If kadyrpv is getting promoted he'll either be a fine pink mist or the new tsar inside a year.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If kadyrpv is getting promoted he'll either be a fine pink mist or the new tsar inside a year. Or one, then the other!
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If kadyrpv is getting promoted he'll either be a fine pink mist or the new tsar inside a year. I’m fairly confident that it’s fake, since he isn’t exactly popular with the Russian army, and they’d have plenty of power to stop such (improbable) promotion.
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