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GreenBuckanneer posted:I thought it was also funny because they just show up out of the blue in "stranger's clothing" looking nothing like anyone else in the area they live in, looking like they fell out of new york into a fantasy land, and that was just completely normal to each of them, and no one else brings it up just [Grunts Acknowledgement] these are all deliberate choices that make a certain kind of sense by the end i mean, the story of this game isn't gonna win any awards, it's no the last of us, but it isn't nearly as stupid as the first 10 minutes or the twitter dogpile will lead you to believe, there is an arc
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Cleretic posted:What magic words do we have to say to make 'I hope Final Fantasy goes primarily turn-based again someday because I dislike all their attempts at making them action games' a valid opinion to hold? Have you played FFX-2 yet
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Outside of the extreme shitpost nature of it, SOP doesn't look all that interesting to me. But I'm not bothered by all the people who seem to enjoy it either, in fact I'm happy for them 
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They make turn based final fantasies, under the name "bravely" for some reason Also WOFF if for some reason you like ATB
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That said, if you played for an hour and aren't enjoying the gameplay, you probably should just stop because you've got a pretty good sense of what the rest of the game is going to feel like by now, that at least isn't going to fundamentally change
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I thought they did a pretty good job fleshing out the narrative of FF1 (which was already pretty convoluted)
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FFI was a great sort of setting for a Dark Souls-style storytelling, since it's already got that vibe of 'everything big has already happened and then you turn up to the ruins' that FromSoft games do a lot with. So it really disappointed me when they decided to do that, instead.CharlieFoxtrot posted:Have you played FFX-2 yet Yeah, it's alright. I think I ultimately preferred X, but we deserve more X-2s in the world. VERY easy to see why it got the treatment it did at release from the general gaming zeitgeist at the time that pointed me away from it, though, it is very proudly feminine at a time when western gaming was very proudly... well, not.
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I mean it's the Nioh devs not fromsoft and that wasn't so much a thing in those games. I guess this is a problem with the whole Soulslike term, not really a descriptor of tone or atmosphere.
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kirbysuperstar posted:They make turn based final fantasies, under the name "bravely" for some reason I do like bravely, and WoFF is fun, I should finish that. also never played Nioh and never cared to, have beat DS1->3 but kind of tired of that genre tbqh
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Cleretic posted:What magic words do we have to say to make 'I hope Final Fantasy goes primarily turn-based again someday because I dislike all their attempts at making them action games' a valid opinion to hold? That is a valid opinion to hold. The invalid bits are where you spin off of that and say all action games are bad or start making up plot points for a game that isn't finished or you haven't played to get mad at to justify not liking action games. Which is what you've historically done ITT when talking about the FF games in that style and since people tend to remember particularly stupid posts people remember these insane takes you've had and that weighs on their opinions every time you slither out to say the same take you've had 6 times already in the recent past that inevitably leads to one of those breakdowns. Such as "God am I not ALLOWED to have OPINIONS" when you respond to someone saying "I prefer the turn based style" with "Careful friend...people here are too rude and cruel if you say things like that" cause that ignores the fact that it's not that opinion that makes people react to you like this. It's all your other posts and how you talk to other people and about things that does. Like seriously the last time you talked about SoP it was to talk about how you didn't care for it and didn't like Jack based on you misremembering part of a cutscene you sort of watched from twitter clips about it. Nobody cares that you don't like action games, it's that you have to constantly make poo poo up to justify not liking poo poo and rationalizing it into being Correct, which you do with...so many topics. Constantly. Like the breakdown about the name Clive. Or writing fanfiction of what the plot of ff16 will be to get mad at. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Mar 31, 2022 |
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Jack owns 
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A reminder that the moment the game was announced Cleretic, you had a spiel about how Square Enix was refusing to put women in their game. Which you've also done to FFXVI.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Jack owns [grunt]
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Ainsley McTree posted:[grunt] [grunt of confusion]
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Ibblebibble posted:[grunt of confusion] [mildly annoyed groan]
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Mainline Final Fantasy is likely never going to be turn based again. And people don't have to like that, but the sooner it's accepted that the series just isn't for them anymore the sooner they can move on.
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I come in to these threads like three or four times a year and even I know to just skim past Cleretic posts. I've even agreed with them on a couple of occasions and have seen them make totally normal non groan worthy posts, and still skim past them. Anyway Jack and friends own and SoP is a really fun revisit to FF1 that does a really good job of having the same tone and dialog complexity of that game, which is now hyper basic, while also being a fun Nioh-lite. A Nioh 2.5 but more simple while still having variety and choice in how you want to play it. It's the best presented story Team Ninja has put out yet imo, far better for being mostly laughably dumb and then turning good given the confines of FF1. It's level designs are also a fun tribute to most of the FF cataloge even if that makes extremely little sense in the context of FF1 and the translation into Nioh style levels leaves a lot of them only extremely vaguely similar to the game they're supposedly directly from. The soundtrack is also good even if it's a bunch of remixes that aren't FFXIV flavored. Also add my name to the pile of people who would instantly buy a new tactics (not advanced though) or WotL remaster.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I thought it was also funny because they just show up out of the blue in "stranger's clothing" looking nothing like anyone else in the area they live in, looking like they fell out of new york into a fantasy land, and that was just completely normal to each of them, and no one else brings it up just [Grunts Acknowledgement] I think what people mean is that these are actual plot elements. There’s a reason they’re dressed like that and act like that. It’s not just to be funny. But again yeah like others said if you don’t like the combat there’s no reason to buy the game. Just take consolation that it’s a spin-off by a different studio entirely and not indicative of anything for the mainline series.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:SoP has to be satire. Everything about it is wrong and boring. I was very interested in this game because I love Nioh (not such a big FF fan), and I have to agree with you. Played through the demo and the cringy story was the best and most intriguing art, honestly. Everything else, graphics, controls, combat system, level design, feels like a huge downgrade from Nioh 2. Especially the graphics. Like, this game looks and runs worse on my PS5 than the original Nioh did on my base PS4.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I feel like expecting FF to go back to turn based instead of this action rpg kick its been on is probably expecting too much. you fool. nimrod!
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Beat SOP yesterday. And you know what? The story turned out to be pretty good. The relationship between Jack and Astos was especially well done imo
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The marvelfication of pop culture has led to an entire generation of people unable to tell if something is a joke or if the writers are "in on it" unless a character mugs for the camera constantly. Sad!
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MechaX posted:Going through FF6 Pixel Remaster trying to finish that up and loving hell, that Celestriad relic (turns all spells to 1 MP cost) that you get from the Brachiosaur is a loving myth I beat the game with my characters between 30-35, only lost 2 of them between the 2nd to last and final phases. You also *really* don't need the Celestriad because Osmose is incredibly broken and with Quick you don't even need to sacrifice a character's turn to have them absorb 450+ MP off 1 Osmose
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Is this also a Chrono series thread becausehttps://square-enix-games.com/en_GB/news/chrono-cross-the-radical-dreamers-edition posted:UPDATE: This article originally incorrectly stated that users can switch between the original and remastered soundtracks. Please note that this was in error and only the refined music can be played. SE really is run by some of the dumbest mother fuckers
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HD DAD posted:Everything should have XII’s battle system  Please god noIf I wanted to play something with autoplay, I would start on mobile games Heath posted:Is this also a Chrono series thread because Hahaha wtf
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Heath posted:Is this also a Chrono series thread because Sigh e: I assume the Steam release will have a mod for this within 48 hours lol
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Heath posted:Is this also a Chrono series thread because Laffo unsold. New sound track is bad.
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Heath posted:Is this also a Chrono series thread because Lmfao well, see ya later
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So remember this game that is absolutely crippled by numerous fundamental flaws that still has strong nostalgic attachment due to its stunning soundscape and art style? What it we got rid of half of the positives.
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It's the most Chrono Cross change. It's also the first remaster in awhile to have worse music apparently.
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Barudak posted:So remember this game that is absolutely crippled by numerous fundamental flaws that still has strong nostalgic attachment due to its stunning soundscape and art style? What it we got rid of half of the positives. That'll be $39.99. Original soundtrack DLC available for $19.99.
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So will the remaster just have those seven or so songs "arranged" or is it the entire soundtrack? I... might be able to handle just the few songs but if it's the entire soundtrack, nah miss me with that
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Madmarker posted:Are the rearranged cc tracks that bad? Compare the bit we have from the remaster to the original.
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They're not bad on their own. But they feel like SE handed the songs to individual artists and said here, reinterpret this song, so rather than being the cohesive vision of a soundtrack that the original is, we have several disparate styles that sound kind of familiar but don't mesh together in the way the original's Celtic-Caribbean fusion does.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Beat SOP yesterday. And you know what? The story turned out to be pretty good. The relationship between Jack and Astos was especially well done imo I think the thing that hits really well with the story to me is that they do a good job of just putting you in Jack's head. You never really have more information than he does (outside the loading screen fools missives I suppose) so you get to put everything together in real time with him instead of having a third party narrator explaining things to you with scenes from somewhere else that the party wouldn't know about.
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