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quote:I know, I know, for many of you out there, only one of those projects matters. ALL BOOKS MATTER! Also, gently caress him for those double spaces after his periods. And if you double space, gently caress you too. Cool kids double space Vertically
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I remember someone once posted the Dance with Dragons tag from notablog. So I tried out https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/tag/the-winds-of-winter/. A few funny quotes. 2010: quote:The good news is that I seem to have written more than a hundred pages of THE WINDS OF WINTER already. 2012: quote:This is for those who complain I never blog about my work. (I do, but not often. I prefer to announce when something is finally done, rather just endless reiterations of “I am working on X, I am working on Z,” and I am never going to be one of those “I wrote three pages today” writers. Sorry, that’s not how I roll). His previous post is literally a reiteration of "I am working on X". He didn't even write more pages, he just shifted uncompleted work to another book, and took the time to blog about it. Loved this part: quote:Dunk & Egg #4, An original novella of Dunk & Egg. Working on it. Hope to have it done by worldcon. It’s scheduled to be published in That is correct, no date there. The line just ends. quote:No more monkeys, please. Don’t write to me with any tempting offers or cool new projects. I am practicing saying No. 2013: Arianna Sample Chapter. quote:Read, enjoy, discuss, and speculate to your heart’s content… but not here, please, there are better places for that, like the forums at Westeros and Tower of the Hand. Me, I have a lot more writing to do. On WINDS, and half a dozen other projects. Clearly that "no more projects" thing isn't working out well. Also a nice flashback to when you could post on his blog. Good Ser. 2014: Mercy Sample Chapter An unfair editing of his text but... quote:Something Old, Something New.. the text posted:It would be just like Mercy to sleep through her own rape. Yeah, Aryas like 10 or 11 or some poo poo? I pretty much check out at this point. Oh well they say write what you know! 2014: Dispels rumors that the book might be coming out. 2015: quote:My faithful minions have just translated the first Alayne chapter from WordStar and uploaded it to my website. Still working on the ole wordstar. Who the gently caress is Alayne anyway. I don't remember her. (Faedit: Oh right that is Sansa ) 2020: quote:I finished a new chapter yesterday, another one three days ago, another one the previous week. quote:I bought a railroad… And there we go! "Nothing to do during the pandemic but write! Why, I've written a few whole chapters, and bought a loving railroad because there is no way I'm going to spend this whole pandemic writing"
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# ? Mar 29, 2022 13:06 |
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I'm still stuck on the fact that George was so miffed at a 2002-era spellchecker that he types on emulated WordStar. Spellcheck indeed sucked a long time ago, but they've made progress, man.
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They're doing a whole show for Corlys Velaryon? I mean yeah he was an interesting character but even so Also I never read that Mercy thing before oh my loving god
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# ? Mar 30, 2022 01:15 |
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If House of the Dragons only does “well” and not gangbusters these other projects will be put on ice very quickly.
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# ? Mar 30, 2022 03:54 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:If House of the Dragons only does “well” and not gangbusters these other projects will be put on ice very quickly. It's going to be interesting to see if the finale season/episode of GOT just poisoned the ASoIaF brand irrevocably or if people are really that forgiving/forgetful. I have no interest in watching the show at all, but I'm still curious to see how good and/or successful it's going to be. I have a feeling this is going to be the final outcome though. House of the Dragon does "okay", and that's not good enough for HBO so it gets capped after one season and everything else in the pipeline is immediately shut down and buried in concrete. Franchise dead.
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That sure would make for some interesting notablogs.
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# ? Apr 1, 2022 10:03 |
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There’s going to be so many people confused about which character is who.
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nine-gear crow posted:It's going to be interesting to see if the finale season/episode of GOT just poisoned the ASoIaF brand irrevocably or if people are really that forgiving/forgetful. I have no interest in watching the show at all, but I'm still curious to see how good and/or successful it's going to be. And then he spends the rest of his days trying to shop "Dunk and Egg" to any and all streaming services.
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I have to believe that the backlash against S8E3 killed the Bloodmoon show. In other news, Glidus (one of the funnier GoT channels) did an April Fools video where he gathered up a few Ice and Fire commentators and quizzed them on "real" vs. "fake" theories. Glidus infamously kind of hates theory discussion, so it's kind of a cheeky revenge for him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mOUdw0m1VU
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nine-gear crow posted:It's going to be interesting to see if the finale season/episode of GOT just poisoned the ASoIaF brand irrevocably or if people are really that forgiving/forgetful. I have no interest in watching the show at all, but I'm still curious to see how good and/or successful it's going to be. HBO's hurting enough that "okay" is still going to make it something they need if it's bringing back even some of the millions of people who cancelled as soon as ASOIAF ended and HBO didn't have anything to keep that audience subscribed.
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Evil Fluffy posted:HBO's hurting enough that "okay" is still going to make it something they need if it's bringing back even some of the millions of people who cancelled as soon as ASOIAF ended and HBO didn't have anything to keep that audience subscribed. HBO is hurting? How? Going too all in on the streaming game and not being able to pay enough cash to stay competitive in that arms race?
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# ? Apr 1, 2022 17:13 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:HBO is hurting? How? Going too all in on the streaming game and not being able to pay enough cash to stay competitive in that arms race? Literally--no joke, I mean literally--half their subscriber base cancelled their HBO subscriptions in the aftermath of Game of Thrones imploding and HBO having basically nothing besides Cherynobyl, which was only a five-episode miniseries, to entice people to stick around with. HBO just loving pissed away subscribers like a guy with poorly controlled diabetes over the course of 2020. 2020! The year in which everyone was locked up inside and had nothing to do but watch TV for 8 hours a day. Game of Thrones's final season hurt them that badly. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Apr 2, 2022 |
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I don’t know what their numbers are but they have a lot of cool poo poo on there now. It was kinda dire before they added all the DC stuff though.
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 15:11 |
I don't know how many people had a Roku during that time either, but for a while after HBO Max launched you could not view HBO Max on Roku devices for...quite a few months. I know I held off on getting a sub since our main viewing device at home involves one.
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 17:21 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Literally--no joke, I mean literally--half their subscriber base cancelled their HBO subscriptions in the aftermath of Game of Thrones imploding and HBO having basically nothing besides Cherynobyl, which was only a five-episode miniseries, to entice people to stick around with. HBO just loving pissed away subscribers like a guy with poorly controlled diabetes over the course of 2020. 2020! The year in which everyone was locked up inside and had nothing to do but watch TV for 8 hours a day. Game of Thrones's final season hurt them that badly. Well, people love Euphoria. Every episode takes over all the top trends on twitter. But besides that show I guess it does seem they’re back to putting out their pre-GoT lower key, less popular, but very consistent high quality stuff. Which can’t provide the coke high that GoT gave them for almost a decade.
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 17:26 |
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That Arya chapter shocked me back then and still leaves me in awe at how utterly, thoroughly bad it is. It's like a parody that laps itself, goes over the moon and becomes some meta incarnation of flanderization. The Euron preview chapter at least had some decent prose and answers some stuff, even if it's still a narrative cul-de-sac and a tryhard attempt to set Euron as anything but the weak diversion he is.
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 17:28 |
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The Forsaken preview chapter is peak GRRM because due to it being a first person drug induced haze he can change his mind over whether every single detail in it was literal, symbolic, or meaningless without anyone ever knowing.
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Invalid Validation posted:I don’t know what their numbers are but they have a lot of cool poo poo on there now. It was kinda dire before they added all the DC stuff though. HBO Max does have a pretty deep catalogue at this point. I find myself being surprised at just how much stuff is on there, even if the app is still garbage. It seems like most of their recent content is stuff that gets a lot of buzz (I.e. Twitter conversation) while appealing to fairly narrow audience segments. Nothing is a breakout crossover hit like GoT was, but you cobble together enough fairly inexpensive shows like Insecure, Euphoria, Raised by Wolves, Pretty like liars, that new Lakers miniseries, etc and I guess that generates enough subscriptions and viewers to appease the stockholders for now. They are still in need of a big tent pole show, especially after Westworld poo poo the bed. If the dragon house show doesn't take off things might get rocky real fast.
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Is Westworld cancelled? Season 3 wasn't great but I though it still had good enough numbers for another season
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Apparently the fourth season is supposed to be released this year, although it might have gotten delayed depending on how much the pandemic affected filming. If this isn't the final season I'll be shocked - every episode in S3 got less than a million viewers on premiere, which bodes pretty ill, especially compared to S2 which averaged 1.5m.
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 19:18 |
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HBO never needed or aimed to completely own the cultural zeitgeist before GoT. But now they’ve rode that high and don’t want a return to the Before Times despite them still being pretty drat good. And it just might kill them.
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 19:28 |
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HBO understands the ebb and flow of subs more than anyone. They've been doing this poo poo a lot longer than most. They're going to be just fine.
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Streaming has kind of changed the game of on demand content though. Including prestige tv content. If you want to get in that game you need to dump a TON of capital into it immediately and hope it works out. HBO is fortunate because they still have both the prestige of their name and of course an excellent back catalogue. But they are still beholden to some of the new rules now.
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banned from Starbucks posted:HBO understands the ebb and flow of subs more than anyone. They've been doing this poo poo a lot longer than most. They're going to be just fine. Fair point. However, I do very much recall the big giant “PLEASE DON’T CANCEL YOUR HBO SUBSCRIPTION BECAUSE OF THIS GOD WE’RE SORRY WE’RE SO SORRY” ad they aired immediately before the final episode of Game of Thrones started, which I actually burst out laughing at. So even they’re prone to just naked panic reactions from time to time.
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 21:26 |
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House of the Dragon relies on a lot of big cinematic battles too right? I wonder how those would look considering we got about 1 a season with GoT
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# ? Apr 2, 2022 21:49 |
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bobjr posted:House of the Dragon relies on a lot of big cinematic battles too right? I wonder how those would look considering we got about 1 a season with GoT "Here come the dragons!" *title card* Six Hours Later "There goes the dragons!"
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quote:Something that I noticed and no one seems to talk about is the length of the book. We were left with 20 POV characters and all of them need to start Winds at a point and end the book at another one in order to fulfill their character arcs of the book. Taking the show as a broad base, we can expect Danerys, for example, to start the novel at the Dothraki Sea, be taken to the dosh khaleen and unite all the kahls, return to Meereen and end all the wars and conflicts there and then sail to Westeros, but first stopping at Volantis (as hinted in Dance) and maybe Pentos. The same can be done to most of the other characters, and when we predict how many chapters will be needed to fulfill this amount of story the number goes way beyond 100. A youtuber already did all this math and I will leave the link of his video here if you want to watch it: < https://youtu.be/dDqb6EdP9eI>
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 17:34 |
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bobjr posted:House of the Dragon relies on a lot of big cinematic battles too right? I wonder how those would look considering we got about 1 a season with GoT If (my awful) memory serves, there are quite a few big dragon fights and other battles. It's written as a historical document, so there's not much in the way of dialog between characters. It focuses more on a general overview of the big events. I imagine it will downplay all that stuff for budget reasons and lean into the political wheeling and dealing.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 17:53 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Fair point. However, I do very much recall the big giant “PLEASE DON’T CANCEL YOUR HBO SUBSCRIPTION BECAUSE OF THIS GOD WE’RE SORRY WE’RE SO SORRY” ad they aired immediately before the final episode of Game of Thrones started, which I actually burst out laughing at. So even they’re prone to just naked panic reactions from time to time. Lmao is that online to watch anywhere?
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 21:19 |
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bobjr posted:House of the Dragon relies on a lot of big cinematic battles too right? I wonder how those would look considering we got about 1 a season with GoT Supposedly, but lol that the GoT show has a throwaway line from Tywin that dragons hadn't been used since Aegon's Conquest. They can't lead with the Blockbuster poo poo, though. They need likeable characters and engaging drama, or it's just going to go the way of other fantasy adaptations like Eragon or Golden Compass.
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Pennsylvanian posted:They need likeable characters and engaging drama Oops
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 23:23 |
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I think the poster most likely nailed down why we'll never get Winds. George's storytelling got way more luxurious in Feast and Dance to the point where in order for Tyrion, Victarion, and Dany to even meet, much less make their way to Westeros together without feeling rushed, it would take over a thousand pages. I feel like the logistics of the Myreeneese Knot are overstated. George probably figured that out years ago, but like lots of Epic Fantasy Writers it seems fairly simple in his mind until he sits down and realizes how much effort actually needs to go into reaching his story points at a satisfying pace. Unless he wants to make the rest of his major storylines into very tongue-and-cheek short stories that tie together in the final book, those stories would easily push Winds past 2,000 pages altogether. I think for George, a hundred pages isn't hard. An amateur writer can fart out a hundred page fanfic fairly easily, and I think he can fart out a hundred pages of people walking around hallways. I figure he's got hundreds and hundreds of pages of Winds done like he's claimed, but that what he's finished barely constitutes an opening act and he knows that he hosed up really bad by releasing two doorstops about people walking around feeling sad. On another note, this is 100% anecdotal, but one type of story I see going around more and more is about book stores not being able to sell GRRM books. Ice and Fire and even his earlier stuff were flying off the shelf for years, but the finale of the show and the memes of George doing anything but writing Winds of Winter has killed any interest in his work, and his publisher must be feeling it. I've seen photos of book stores boxing up brand new editions of Ice and Fire to give to used bookstores. That's loving wild. Coquito Ergo Sum fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Apr 4, 2022 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:Lmao is that online to watch anywhere? I don't think so, sadly. Though it was blatantly obvious what it was trying to do. It was a brief, glorious, once in a lifetime glimpse at a television network having a panic attack in real time.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:HBO is hurting? How? Going too all in on the streaming game and not being able to pay enough cash to stay competitive in that arms race? I truly wish I could get all my favorite shows on one platform. We've Netflix and Amazon prime, but drat I wish I could get Yellowstone and Outlander on them. gently caress subbing to a channel for one series though. Much less a hot mess like GoT.
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Hasselblad posted:I truly wish I could get all my favorite shows on one platform. We've Netflix and Amazon prime, but drat I wish I could get Yellowstone and Outlander on them. gently caress subbing to a channel for one series though. Much less a hot mess like GoT. My dude have you heard of Plex and ?
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TK-42-1 posted:My dude have you heard of Plex and ? For real this. We only pay for netflix because my extended family uses it. I borrow my sisters HBO / HULU when I need it, but mostly i just filez stuff, which costs me I dunno, $8 per month for pretty much everything I feel like putting time into. And that includes buying my way into .nzb sites with eternal VIP passes or whatever. It's not perfect for grabbing older stuff, but for anything that came out in the past year, it is pretty solid. Shimrra Jamaane posted:But I think that is just foolish, George is a respectable author and neither his publishers or the people that work for him would let him do something like it and I honestly find it hard to believe that this theory is somehow more reasonable for some people than the simple idea Yeah, I was onboard until this point. This person clearly never had to see "Meanwhile back at the wall" and realize they had waited years for a half completed book. Pretending the GRRM has some writers integrity that is preventing him from releasing just half the book - that kind of makes me laugh. Not a gleeful laugh. Just a sad sad laugh in a part of me that died a decade ago. Coquito Ergo Sum posted:releasing two doorstops about people walking around feeling sad. Thank you for writing this, it legit made me smile.
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Mat Cauthon posted:They are still in need of a big tent pole show, especially after Westworld poo poo the bed. If the dragon house show doesn't take off things might get rocky real fast. if we go by dollars spent, their next big bet is probably their the last of us adaptation.
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Westworld season 2 was seriously one of the largest face plants in TV history.
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It was pretty bad. Season 3 was much better, imo. But also felt like a different show. More like a spin off than another season
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