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Jim butcher's kid wrote a book. It's published (or will be in October). God drat I feel old. James J. Butcher is the author name, I believe. Book's called Dead Man's Hand. Urban fantasy, like his pa.
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pradmer posted:The Unreal and the Real: The Selected Short Stories of Ursula K. Le Guin - $1.99 This is the good stuff. e. TOOT BOOT posted:A Wizard Of Earthsea - $1.99 So's this. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 4, 2022 |
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SimonChris posted:Speaking of white supremacy, I don't know how many people here are familiar with M.A.R. Barker, the creator of the classic Tékumel - Empire of the Petal Throne fantasy setting. Tékumel was the first detailed setting published for Dungeons & Dragons, as well as the focus of multiple independent RPG systems. Barker also published several novels set in the empire. While it never achieved mainstream popularity, Tékumel had a dedicated cult following for being much less eurocentric than the typical western fantasy setting. There might be a little more to all that than at first glance. From Dave Morris's Fabled Land Blog Scroll down to March 24, 2022. Part of an excerpt to a letter sent to a British publisher by Barker prior to its eventual publication: quote:“I do have a novel that is unsold and unwanted by anybody. This is what I call my ‘Nazi novel’. I did not show it to the Wollheims both because they don't do this sort of book and also because they are Jewish and would be terribly offended -- and they are nice people. I started out to write a ‘near-future’ thriller: young mercenary is hired to steal cannisters of germ warfare from an American stockpile in the 2040 A.D. period. This is used by a fearful Israeli government and various cronies to destroy the Soviet Union; the Soviets get in a retaliatory strike with germ warfare of their own, however, and take out many US, British, etc. cities. Out in India, where the young mercenary is employed, the descendants of the Nazi SS and other ‘refugees’ are quietly biding their time, building up economic resources for a come-back. With the presidency and vice-presidency of the United States open after the deaths of their incumbents, the Secretary of State takes over -- an old, reconstructed racist. He invites the Nazi movement to help in running the US. The mercenary hero, who is not a Nazi, is an employee of the Indian chemical company ‘front’ for the Nazis and gets into the situation as a sort of military expert for them. The Nazis manage to gain access to a giant computer with independent ideas, and they use this machine to rewrite Mein Kampf using every sales pitch and advertising trick in the book. The hero initially loves and marries an Indian girl, but later falls for a Nazi girl who is helping with publicity. The plot thickens, and various major events occur. The book ends with the Nazis taking over much of Western civilisation, and with our hero being chosen ‘Second Führer’ and riding into the stadium to the ‘Sieg Heils!’ of the masses.
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that raises more questions than answers honestly!
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moonmazed posted:that raises more questions than answers honestly! Big ""this novel of mine could only be enjoyed by those shithead skinheads or Oswald Moseley t-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the shirt" energy there
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can't even sell it to the neo-nazis because he marries a brown woman before he ends up with his Sieghilde
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I read the Morris post and all the commentary below it and it seems like a perplexingly complicated situation about a weird, weird guy. https://fabledlands.blogspot.com/2022/03/was-professor-m-r-barker-nazi.html edit - and I can sort of see Morris defending Barker mostly because he liked and admired him, in the same way that I reflexively defend Morris because I like and admire him even though he's a white male baby boomer with all the corresponding views on cancel culture, freedom of speech and why people should leave poor old J.K. Rowling alone etc freebooter fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Apr 4, 2022 |
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Everyone posted:There might be a little more to all that than at first glance. From Dave Morris's Fabled Land Blog Scroll down to March 24, 2022. Part of an excerpt to a letter sent to a British publisher by Barker prior to its eventual publication: i don't think so, read the rest of the post: Between 1990 and 2002, Barker also served as a member of the Editorial Advisory Committee of the Journal of Historical Review, an advocate of Holocaust denial and revisionist pseudohistory.[34][35]
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lol at the worrying about mossad part.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Jim butcher's kid wrote a book. It's published (or will be in October). God drat I feel old. I'll give it a shot but the blurb really screams Harry Dresden: The Early Years with the serial number filed off.
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Doctor Jeep posted:i don't think so, read the rest of the post: Don't worry, Mr. Morris has a flawless response to that as well: https://fabledlands.blogspot.com/2022/03/was-professor-m-r-barker-nazi.html posted:Some have discovered that Professor Barker may have been listed on the editorial advisory board of The Journal of Historical Review, a Holocaust-denying magazine. Denial of the Holocaust is a monstrous lie, and to promote Holocaust denial is clearly anti-Semitic. But we still need evidence that Barker denied the Holocaust. A screenshot of the contents page of one issue in the early '90s (when he was actively trying to sell the novel) lists a “Phillip Barker, Ph.D”. Was that the Professor? It might well have been, but let’s not conclude that he’s more evil than Sauron just yet. I was a consulting editor on White Dwarf in the ‘80s – that doesn’t mean I agreed with their editorial or commercial policies.
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I mean it would be one thing if people were calling that journal "Holocaust-denying" because it once published an ill-advised "just asking questions" piece in the name of free speech or whatever, but no, it was a straight-up 100% revisionist journal whose raison d'etre was denying the Holocaust. You can't really claim Barker was holding it at arm's length at that point.
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Apr 4, 2022 08:43
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Posting about the "Holocaust" with scare quotes on the Tékumel mailing list was also a jape.
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Sailor Viy posted:Yeah I guess the latter is what I was hoping for, but it still sounds interesting. Yeah, if anyone knows something like the latter I'd like to know too!
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Thread mid-range favourite Adrian Tchaikovsky is now writing 40k stuff. It's been awhile since I've read some bolter porn so I'll dip a toe back in.
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How is his fantasy? I know many of us enjoyed the Children books but I don't know that I've seen much other work talked about. Except that bad Eden book.
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I only read 40K fiction with queer characters now, preferably non-binary but binary trans will do as well.
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That's not a joke btw.
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freebooter posted:I read the Morris post and all the commentary below it and it seems like a perplexingly complicated situation about a weird, weird guy. Based on the letter the Nazi novel comes off a little bit half-satire, half-prophecy with the Nazis winning through good PR/advertising.
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Everyone posted:Based on the letter the Nazi novel comes off a little bit half-satire, half-prophecy with the Nazis winning through good PR/advertising. It's very bad and not meaningfully satirical.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:The nazi propaganda novel is available online. I'll take your word for it and not seek it out. I think the only "Nazis win" novel I ever read was Harry Turtledove's In the Presence of Mine Enemies
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gently caress, the Snail on the Slope has to be the densest book I've read. Apparently it's a biting satire of Soviet society considering it was heavily censored and even banned, but I really struggled to make sense of it. Even one of the Strugatskij brothers aknowledges in the afterword that few have gotten it right.
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Everyone posted:I'll take your word for it and not seek it out. I think the only "Nazis win" novel I ever read was Harry Turtledove's In the Presence of Mine Enemies Does The Man in the High Castle count as a “Nazi win” novel?
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Everyone posted:I'll take your word for it and not seek it out. I think the only "Nazis win" novel I ever read was Harry Turtledove's In the Presence of Mine Enemies
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Everyone posted:I'll take your word for it and not seek it out.
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Writing a functionally straight-faced Nazi propaganda novel then concealing its existence for the rest of your life to... own the neo-Nazis seems like a straight-up lie and post facto defense of extremely reprehensible views. Even giving Barker immense benefit of the doubt (which if it's not clear, I'm not inclined to do), at best this is a monumentally poorly-considered "joke" and calls Barker's judgement into question to the degree that even if you think he wasn't at least a holocaust denier, nothing he has to say on the matter should be treated with any kind of credence. Also Morris worked himself up into a tizzy trying to defend him using this letter that he got from Barker supposedly saying it was a joke and not even the neo-nazi presses in the US would ever buy such a novel! Except... they did. The book was published by National Vanguard. It happened. The guy published a neo-nazi novel and hid the fact for the rest of his life, and at this point there's no disputing that he served on the board of a holocaust-denying historical journal for 12 years. Morris defends him, sure, but he had a full life in academia and the fact that no one else has spoken up to call any of the allegations into question is notable, even if it isn't really proof of anything.
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Harold Fjord posted:How is his fantasy? I know many of us enjoyed the Children books but I don't know that I've seen much other work talked about. Except that bad Eden book. I haven't read all of his stuff, but of the stuff I have read: - Spiderlight is fun pulpy fantasy that does some interesting things with the initially generic premise. - Cage of Souls is dying-earth (and thus only debatably fantasy) and a lot slower-paced than Spiderlight or CoT, but I enjoyed it. - Shadows of the Apt needs to be, at most, a third as long as it is, but if you're into interminable fantasy doorstopper series a la Jordan/Sanderson/Erikson you might like it. - Dogs of War is not fantasy, but is pretty good, about a squad of uplifted animals programmed for war.
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Who in the hell is Dave Morris and why should I care about them?Alhazred posted:gently caress, the Snail on the Slope has to be the densest book I've read. Apparently it's a biting satire of Soviet society considering it was heavily censored and even banned, but I really struggled to make sense of it. Even one of the Strugatskij brothers aknowledges in the afterword that few have gotten it right. Writing increasingly biting satires of Soviet society was their thing. Really surprised their story Tales from the Troika made it past the censors and wasn't as butchered like Snail on the Slop was. Every story in the brothers Escape Attempt collection (Escape Attempt/The Kid from Hell/Space Mowgli) has a "the people in charge have no f-ing idea what so ever" in increasing amounts.
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Visitor (Foreigner #17) by CJ Cherryh - $4.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011IVP478/ Heroes Die (Acts of Caine #1) by Matthew Stover - $4.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001MYA38W/ A Man of His Word: The Complete Series by Dave Duncan - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0732J6PN5/
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Shitshow posted:Does The Man in the High Castle count as a “Nazi win” novel? Probably it's more of a "Fascists win" thing, but I'll happily call it "Nazis win" because I'm pretty sure that "Fascists Win" includes our current actual real world and I don't want to think too much about that for fear of puking and crying on my laptop.
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pradmer posted:Visitor (Foreigner #17) by CJ Cherryh - $4.99 Hard to believe but it's been 24 years since Heroes Die was published. I'm not nearly as enamored with its "invincible martial artist" shtick as I was back then, but the content between the fight scenes felt so rich and interesting I would have expected Stover to have a great career ahead of him. Instead I don't think he's published anything in a decade. I don't blame him for that, to be clear; being an author is a very tough and usually poorly paid job, but as a reader who would have liked to see what came next it's a shame. For her part, Cherryh somehow managed to publish 17 Foreigner books in a little less than thirty years. Individually they can't be making that much money but she's managed to stick out a midlist career long after the death of the midlist market. For most of that time I was frustrated by the fact Foreigner sequels were apparently more in demand than Alliance Union stuff and particularly a Cyteen sequel. But then we got Regenesis and, well, it's worth reading, but maybe Cyteen was a once in a lifetime moment. This made me look up another author who was very exciting but dropped off the map, Steph Swainston. Year of Our War felt important and powerful when it first came out, don't think I remember seeing it discussed here, at least recently. She burned out and stopped writing for a while, but it turns out she put out another book in the Castle series in 2016 and I didn't hear about and said three more were coming (but so far they haven't). When I was a teenager I spent a lot of time looking forward to forthcoming books and getting burned on them, series mostly forgotten now like Charles Sheffield's Heritage books (the last one was a disaster) and David Brin's Uplift trilogy (again, the last one was a disaster). Maybe the next wave of authors learned something from that; Martin and Rothfuss certainly found an elegant solution to the last-one-disaster problem, but the fans seemed to have gotten burned just the same. I think I do better these days at just appreciating what I have and taking what comes. Hopefully Martin and Rothfuss fans learned that too. Or maybe they're just contributing to the Brandon Sanderson kickstarter instead.
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Lex Talionis posted:Interesting juxtaposition here. Whatever else happens (short of his own death or an extinction level asteroid strike) Brandson Sanderson will loving finish his books and those endings won't suck.
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ToxicFrog posted:- Shadows of the Apt needs to be, at most, a third as long as it is, but if you're into interminable fantasy doorstopper series a la Jordan/Sanderson/Erikson you might like it.
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Whew. I started at the bottom of the chain of posts talking about some author named Barker being into holocaust denial and nazi poo poo and was glad it turned to be some author I'd never heard of and not Clive Barker. You'd assume that a gay dude who's written a lot about the theme of weirdos and outcasts trying to find their place in the world wouldn't be a secret nazi, but in recent years I've seen so many seemingly cool white dudes with money support so much horrible poo poo that it's hardened my heart and made me reflexively brace for the worst.
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Blastedhellscape posted:Whew. I started at the bottom of the chain of posts talking about some author named Barker being into holocaust denial and nazi poo poo and was glad it turned to be some author I'd never heard of and not Clive Barker. As I understand it, Clive Barker is gay and the Nazis put gay people into camps along with Jews and Romani, so figure Clive Barker is not going to be a Nazi, secret or otherwise. Although granted you just never loving know sometimes. For my part I have pretty much zero dogs in the M.A.R. Barker business. I never got into Tekumel. I do consider Dave Morris to be a friend even if we've never met in actual physical life. I think something similar occurred with Morris and Barker. I recall a story about Winston Moseley, the person who brutally murdered Kitty Genovese. Later that same night he found a man sleeping in a car and woke him. He told the man to be careful that this wasn't a nice/safe neighborhood. This wasn't done from sarcasm but from actual concern for the guy's welfare. People are not of a piece. I can understand how the person Morris knew might not have shown himself to be the full person that he was.
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Harold Fjord posted:How is his fantasy? I know many of us enjoyed the Children books but I don't know that I've seen much other work talked about. Except that bad Eden book. Expert systems brother is a pretty cool pair of novellas. I loved the idea of shadows of the apt and read them all but it's about 9 books too long. After the war, his book in a shared universe was good too but the ones after were pretty poor
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Everyone posted:As I understand it, Clive Barker is gay and the Nazis put gay people into camps along with Jews and Romani, so figure Clive Barker is not going to be a Nazi, secret or otherwise. Although granted you just never loving know sometimes. Also his partner for some very long period of time was black. I don't know whether they're still together because Clive just kinda disappeared past a certain point. People say he's in poor health. I know he almost died from sepsis or something 10-15 years ago. Clive is a very nice person btw, I went to a book signing and he was there until every single person was gone, which was like midnight.
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Everyone posted:As I understand it, Clive Barker is gay and the Nazis put gay people into camps along with Jews and Romani, so figure Clive Barker is not going to be a Nazi, secret or otherwise. Although granted you just never loving know sometimes. You wouldn't expect there to be Slavic nazis either. But no, never got any hint of such things from Clive Barker. Never met him or anything but I've read a bunch of his stuff and one theme that keeps coming around is acceptance of the other, a rejection of hate and prejudice.
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