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Nenonen posted:Nodbass I joked about Russia being the brotherhood of nod and I regret this analogy heavily -- The one thing I am sad I haven't seen from this whole thing is a tiktok video of Russian soldiers opening up the elephant's foot in Chernobyl WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Apr 12, 2022 |
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TheFluff posted:Hope these This was really interesting. Thanks for the  !
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/charlie_savage/status/1513478733675573249?s=21&t=km1bPwDclYQMDVx8f8X1dg Since we’re all finished murdering the hell out of Afghanis and Iraqis, hell yea let’s lean into international justice - A Piece of poo poo
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i am a moron posted:Since we’re all finished murdering the hell out of Afghanis and Iraqis, hell yea let’s lean into international justice (I know it's Graham in the article, but still.)
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Mulva posted:I mean you just send them all the Javelins. Wiki put the total amount of Javelins produced at only about 45,000, and when you consider must of been some used in Afghanistan and Iraq over the last twenty years, and there is a few thousands in total owned by other countries as well, Ukraine could actually have the majority of what the US actually has in stock. There is obviously just a bunch of other Anti tank stuff that could also be incredibly helpful though.
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Mulva posted:I mean you just send them all the Javelins. We'll never need them in the same way, what with having a devastatingly powerful air force and navy. There's pretty much nothing that could happen in the next year or so that would require us to have a bunch of Javelins on hand. For us they are neat, for them they are essential. Even at the current pace we could easy give them another month or three of Javelins as people start giving them heavier equipment. It's not yet a problem, but is a thing to keep an eye on so it doesn't become a problem down the road. Russia is going to send the Kadryov WhatsApp to Mexico requesting they invade Texas and we will be forced to intervene.
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dr_rat posted:Wiki put the total amount of Javelins produced at only about 45,000, and when you consider must of been some used in Afghanistan and Iraq over the last twenty years, and there is a few thousands in total owned by other countries as well, Ukraine could actually have the majority of what the US actually has in stock. Such as the 2 US ABCTs mulling about Europe right now. I have it in Good source that they are very useful as an anti-tank system.
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FishBulbia posted:you mean swedes? local drevlians were not part of rurikid clan. if you want to say put a national lens over a part of history where it doesnt belong. In your opinion, at what point did house Rurik stop being Viking and start being locals? That said, I do agree with you that trying to impose concepts like statehood and nationality on the middle ages is silly though. Still, that doesn't stop nationalists everywhere from doing so.
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Abner Assington posted:You're going to have to be more specific, since that quote could be attributed to an extremely non-zero number of representatives and senators. loving all of them. And I hate to continue comparing this to Iraq, it’s always going to be what I compare anything like this to since I was there. But thinking the US is so much better than Russia because we were killing folks in a faraway place with harder to empathize with people is just gross. We also attacked a country with a made up casus belli and killed innocents, no one should be acting like they’re better than if they lived within our borders and did nothing to stop it or cheered it on
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BigRoman posted:In your opinion, at what point did house Rurik stop being Viking and start being locals? Let's just say Korea is absolutely -213th Rome (which was the first)
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"" Foreign Secretary Liz Truss:Reports that Russian forces may have used chemical agents in an attack on the people of Mariupol. We are working urgently with partners to verify details. Any use of such weapons would be a callous escalation in this conflict and we will hold Putin and his government to account "" Yeah so this coincides with the plane talk earlier aswell.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:"" What are they going to do if it really is a chemical attack that they aren’t doing already?
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Kraftwerk posted:What are they going to do if it really is a chemical attack that they aren’t doing already? No fly zone?
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i am a moron posted:loving all of them. And I hate to continue comparing this to Iraq, it’s always going to be what I compare anything like this to since I was there. But thinking the US is so much better than Russia because we were killing folks in a faraway place with harder to empathize with people is just gross. We also attacked a country with a made up casus belli and killed innocents, no one should be acting like they’re better than if they lived within our borders and did nothing to stop it or cheered it on I think we're better because when the US does commit war crimes we're allowed to criticize it without going to jail.
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Concerned Citizen posted:depending on the weapon, we actually do have this problem. we have sent half the javelins produced in the last decade already. the actual stockpile number is classified, but at some point we will run through it unless we can significantly increase production very soon. ukraine is burning through these things at a crazy rate. Never thought I'd see the day where America faced the prospect of running out of weapons to deliver to a proxy war.
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My assumption was that they would not resort to chemical/bio weapons since they could just do war crimes with conventional artillery Grozny style but maybe all that equipment and supplies getting blown to hell is making that not feasible?
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TheFluff posted:glagolitic alphabet, The glyph for "d" in that script is certainly something, was St. Cyril having a laugh?
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i am a moron posted:loving all of them. And I hate to continue comparing this to Iraq, it’s always going to be what I compare anything like this to since I was there. But thinking the US is so much better than Russia because we were killing folks in a faraway place with harder to empathize with people is just gross. We also attacked a country with a made up casus belli and killed innocents, no one should be acting like they’re better than if they lived within our borders and did nothing to stop it or cheered it on It's not the same unless you think Saddam and Zelensky are equivalent.
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PeterCat posted:It's not the same unless you think Saddam and Zelensky are equivalent. Issuing statement you do not infact gotta hand it to saddam.
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i am a moron posted:loving all of them. And I hate to continue comparing this to Iraq, it’s always going to be what I compare anything like this to since I was there. But thinking the US is so much better than Russia because we were killing folks in a faraway place with harder to empathize with people is just gross. We also attacked a country with a made up casus belli and killed innocents, no one should be acting like they’re better than if they lived within our borders and did nothing to stop it or cheered it on Invading Iraq was completely unjustified and totally bad, I agree. It never should have happened. It was quite different from what Putin is doing to Ukraine, though. You need to be able to look at two bad things and make a real moral judgment as to which was worse. Just throwing up your hands and declaring that all bad things are equally bad leads to a lot of really hosed up conclusions.
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Mozi posted:I think we're better because when the US does commit war crimes we're allowed to criticize it without going to jail. We do have to go if we reveal the crimes in the first place, however.
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Deteriorata posted:Invading Iraq was completely unjustified and totally bad, I agree. It never should have happened. It was quite different from what Putin is doing to Ukraine, though. You don't even have to have an opinion on which is worse. Unless someone invented a TARDIS and I didn't hear about it, there's precisely jack poo poo that can be done about the US invasion of Iraq twenty years after the fact. Meanwhile Russia is attacking Ukraine at this very moment, which is something we can do things about.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:You don't even have to have an opinion on which is worse. Unless someone invented a TARDIS and I didn't hear about it, there's precisely jack poo poo that can be done about the US invasion of Iraq twenty years after the fact. Meanwhile Russia is attacking Ukraine at this very moment, which is something we can do things about. I agree with this. It's enough to understand that what Putin is doing in Ukraine is morally repugnant. The anti-war tent should be as large as possible.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:You don't even have to have an opinion on which is worse. Unless someone invented a TARDIS and I didn't hear about it, there's precisely jack poo poo that can be done about the US invasion of Iraq twenty years after the fact. I dunno, there's always the option of rehabilitating it as a kind, civilized war, composed of accidental deaths and regrettable collateral damage. Makes it much easier to do it again later.
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On the same day as the rumored chemical attack...the Ukrainian government contacts me after a solid month of vetting to say I've been green lit and issues me an official invite to Kyiv. What are the chances? And yes, they know about my lovely prosthetic. (Can verify for mods. Say no to more war tourists)
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uncleTomOfFinland posted:My assumption was that they would not resort to chemical/bio weapons since they could just do war crimes with conventional artillery Grozny style but maybe all that equipment and supplies getting blown to hell is making that not feasible? If they really are working to this May deadline to get Putin his win for his parade maybe they've decided that Mariupol is going to be it so they've moved in the chemical weapons to make sure it falls in time. Wonder if Putin will have Azov chained and dragged along the street Roman Emperor style
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Scapegoat posted:If they really are working to this May deadline to get Putin his win for his parade maybe they've decided that Mariupol is going to be it so they've moved in the chemical weapons to make sure it falls in time. Wonder if Putin will have Azov chained and dragged along the street Roman Emperor style I suspect this chemical weapon will end up being something like tear gas and everyone will stand down from it.
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Crespolini posted:I dunno, there's always the option of rehabilitating it as a kind, civilized war, composed of accidental deaths and regrettable collateral damage. Makes it much easier to do it again later. Sure, I'll start. Remember the Coalition of the Willing? The US spent years building up to the Iraq war loudly explaining its (entirely fictitious) reasons for the upcoming conflict, and rounded up dozens of other countries to give the upcoming slaughter moral legitimacy. Compare and contrast to Russia who, up until the day before the invasion of Ukraine, was claiming it had no plans to invade, and went to war with noted independent third party Belarus. Things can always get worse. I didn't think I'd ever hold up George Bush as having done a good job, but time and Putin make fools of us all.
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FishBulbia posted:Wait till you learn about who used to be the head of f1 FishBulbia posted:Let's just say Korea is absolutely -213th Rome (which was the first) HyperRome Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Apr 12, 2022 |
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm waiting and Idk what to even look for He was head of the FIA which is F1's parent company.
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Mystic Mongol posted:Sure, I'll start. Remember the Coalition of the Willing? The US spent years building up to the Iraq war loudly explaining its (entirely fictitious) reasons for the upcoming conflict, and rounded up dozens of other countries to give the upcoming slaughter moral legitimacy. Compare and contrast to Russia who, up until the day before the invasion of Ukraine, was claiming it had no plans to invade, and went to war with noted independent third party Belarus. Things can always get worse. Also, as others have mentioned: Saddam was a really lovely person who very certainly committed war crimes. By rights, he should've gone to the Hague and died in a prison cell instead of ending up on the gallows in Iraq. Even if the war was a gigantic clusterfuck, and it totally was, the world is better off for not having Hussein in it. The best thing you could say about him is he kept things so brutally repressed by any means necessary that it was convenient for our own interests, and honestly... that's not great.
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uncleTomOfFinland posted:My assumption was that they would not resort to chemical/bio weapons since they could just do war crimes with conventional artillery Grozny style but maybe all that equipment and supplies getting blown to hell is making that not feasible? Conventional artillery has practical limits when dealing with heavily built up areas. You can wreck the buildings, you can kill a lot of people, but after the bombardment is done soldiers will emerge from their bunkers and take up positions once again. Chemical weapons OTOH have a habit of sinking into the bunkers and shelters and basements. That's the military logic and is presumably why they were used in Syria. Of course, those shelters and basements are always filled with the surviving civilians of the urban area...oh well!
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Mr. Apollo posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mosley This just says he was into weird sex stuff, not that he was an actual Nazi.
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Deteriorata posted:I haven't a clue. Looks like it is rather boringly landing in Belfast, so its ultimate destination is still a mystery. Has crossed Italy by now. FishBulbia posted:That said, I don't see how a rich 16 year old twerp doing a italian fascist salute during the italian anthem is related to the war in Ukraine. Real mystery that one, innit? TheFluff posted:Hope these They were indeed!
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KillHour posted:This just says he was into weird sex stuff, not that he was an actual Nazi. he once raced on a car with the flash in the pan logo (the logo of the british union of facists back in the 70s I think)
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KillHour posted:This just says he was into weird sex stuff, not that he was an actual Nazi. His dad was Oswald Moseley the founder of the British Union of Fascists, and he campaigned for neo-nazis in his early political career before he switched to motorsports.
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