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Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~
Yeah, like, I'm not gonna judge any of you for reading Harry Potter fanfic, but I will absolutely judge people who continue throwing money JKR's way.

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Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

I have a really nice harry potter scarf. Made out of proper wool, it's the most comfortable scarf I own, and it was one of the last things my mum bought for me before she died.

And now I feel like poo poo wearing it. Sigh. gently caress JKR.

Maybe I'll try weaving some blue and pink or rainbow colours into it.

Nettle Soup fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Apr 14, 2022

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Bremen posted:

Doesn't the author have Bellatrix? get transported to the D&D world and completely dominate a bunch of high level wizards, despite Milo having established that even a low level spell could block the Imperius curse? That was about where I decided to drop it.
yes but partially because HP wizards can cast as fast as they can speak (technically faster with wandless magic) so they bypass the usual six-seconds-per-round cast time limitation that D&D has

which would be like someone flying at you in a boxing match IRL, you're not expecting it and you're gonna get got

(I am a huge nerd etc)

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Nettle Soup posted:

I have a really nice harry potter scarf. Made out of proper wool, it's the most comfortable scarf I own, and it was one of the last things my mum bought for me before she died.

And now I feel like poo poo wearing it. Sigh. gently caress JKR.

Maybe I'll try weaving some blue and pink or rainbow colours into it.

Don't let someone being terrible ruin things you love. Enjoy the scarf and just don't support JKR going forward. Enjoy the fanfics and just don't buy more official Harry Potter. The world is too difficult to add extra optional misery to yourself.

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.
Just sew a trans flag or something into it. Those scarves look dope.

It really sucks that the most popular work of art of the Millennials' generation was made by someone who so actively sucks poo poo.

Selkie Myth
May 25, 2013

Chillyrabbit posted:

Selkie what's the best way to support your work? I feel like throwing a couple of dollars your way for BTDM

patreon you get something without supporting bezos so

Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~

Peachfart posted:

Don't let someone being terrible ruin things you love. Enjoy the scarf and just don't support JKR going forward. Enjoy the fanfics and just don't buy more official Harry Potter. The world is too difficult to add extra optional misery to yourself.

Yeah, I agree with this, honestly. I'm not consuming any HP fanfics personally, but, like, I've got plenty of other stuff to enjoy.

Narmi
Feb 26, 2008

Selkie Myth posted:

Yeah, all of this annoys me as well. It's why I'm doing my own thing.

I'm currently (literally, let myself get distracted as I'm doing it) in the middle of building out three dozen different(ish... I'm shamelessly reusing in a few places because there's only so many) methods of government and ways of thinking, and WHOOOF it's a challenge.

Right now I have 438 different territories/cities/points of interest that I need to work out.... and that's only halfway through the list, still building the framework.

I'm determined to do this *right*

How do you keep track of all of this? Do you have a world map or just keep everything in a spreadsheet or private wiki or what?

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
The people in the Alexander Wales (TUTBAD) discord are the turbo-est nerds I've ever seen.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

Larry Parrish posted:

im never in a hundred years going to read Harry Potter fan fiction, sorry. i don't care if the potterheads launch a coup and it becomes illegal to not read that stuff.

read the arc of sacrifices you coward

Cicero posted:

The people in the Alexander Wales (TUTBAD) discord are the turbo-est nerds I've ever seen.

am part of that discord; can confirm being a turbo nerd

Selkie Myth
May 25, 2013

Narmi posted:

How do you keep track of all of this? Do you have a world map or just keep everything in a spreadsheet or private wiki or what?

Multiple massive spreadsheets, huge maps, etc.

They're all semi-open to the public. Anyone grabbing the mango minion react role in my discord can look through 2/3rds of my notes. Just not the super secret ones :D

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
I always think of the Wizard of Rhyme books when I see the main country in Dragoneye Moons, although I think the idea of a fantasy Rome where the other guy won predates it. Loved those books as a kid.

Anyway, I finished Fates Parallel book 2. The changes to the plot are mostly around pacing it better and giving up on the cute but ill-advised idea of making Jia's agreement with Hayakawa as much a surprise to the reader as it was to Eui. It's slightly better handled, but if you hated it before I doubt you'll like it now.

I still really like the series, though. The prose is quite good, the dialogue is snappy, and the character relationships (which are the heart of the story) are well-written and compelling. Sometimes it's a little slow, but for the genre it's snappy enough, and it rarely falls into the "slice-of-life doldrums" where you have no idea what or when the climax is going to be. I do wish the initial premise didn't come off as a Forge of Destiny ripoff, but it finds its own identity soon enough. Among Western xianxia I'm only spending money on this and Destiny right now, although I'd buy a Virtuous Sons ebook if Ya Boy published one.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
old Maxime has them published pretty quick after he finishes the volume online. quick turn around time on that man.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

I would like to lodge a formal complaint towards everyone that pointed me towards The Essence of Cultivation. Not because it's bad, it's really quite good, but because the author has put out a total of 22 chapters in 2 years with multiple hiatuses. Why would you all saddle me with such a curse, you monsters?

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky
If I have to suffer through waiting, so should everyone else.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



TWI Patreon

I'm maybe halfway through this chapter, and as good as it is, it's *so much* I need to stop reading because I am no longer taking it in.

e: chapter goes great with this playing in the background...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hMm3ep-pZA

e: finished. what a loving chapter, christ alive.

tithin fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Apr 17, 2022

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


tithin posted:

e: finished. what a loving chapter, christ alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n3pFFPSlW4

.Z.
Jan 12, 2008

TWI Patreon
Nereshal’s comment about Erin being too young makes me wonder about how much more pirate has planned. Like at present it feels like a few more volumes. But that age comment…

asur
Dec 28, 2012
TWI

Hahaha Chaldion playing Neirs and then getting played in turn

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

tithin posted:

TWI Patreon

I'm maybe halfway through this chapter, and as good as it is, it's *so much* I need to stop reading because I am no longer taking it in.

e: chapter goes great with this playing in the background...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hMm3ep-pZA

e: finished. what a loving chapter, christ alive.

I wanted to reply with a link to this video played at 0.25x speed, but apparently there's no way to link that

edit: oh my god "You're too young" and just like that it no longer seems like TWI is near endgame

Argue fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Apr 17, 2022

Myriad Truths
Oct 13, 2012
I know people mostly fell off of Wildbow's stuff, but is anyone still reading Pale? Just wondering if there's enough entertaining there to bother with.

Sybot
Nov 8, 2009

Myriad Truths posted:

I know people mostly fell off of Wildbow's stuff, but is anyone still reading Pale? Just wondering if there's enough entertaining there to bother with.

It depends exactly what you're interested in, but there is a lot in there to like in there recently such as the Finder/Paths stuff, the characterisation of the lead trio and the plotting interplay of the factions.

There are still the issues with bloated fights scenes with rando Practitioners/Others that don't really advance the plot, way too many characters and the inherent vagueness of the magical system, so while it's manageable on a week-by-week basis catching up might present a problem.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

It was originally supposed to be his shortest work by a longshot and it's now almost twice the length of Worm. Everyone I know who is reading it says it's his best writing, but holy moly is that daunting.

Ramie
Mar 2, 2021

the worldbuilding can be jump-out-of-your-seat good but half the characters are Wildbow Logic Engines™ or annoying teens (or both!) and the other half deserve to be free and in a better serial

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

catgirlgenius posted:

the worldbuilding can be jump-out-of-your-seat good but half the characters are Wildbow Logic Engines™ or annoying teens (or both!) and the other half deserve to be free and in a better serial

Man. I really loved the world of Pact but it was so exhausting to read. I need a Sparknotes version of Wildbow web serials.

Anias
Jun 3, 2010

It really is a lovely hat

Wildbow has interesting ideas but he likes writing misery porn so the interesting ideas are drowning in angst that wasn't that interesting at 11 and certainly isn't interesting now.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
he has that unique middle class angst that's somehow out of touch and over the top at the same time. the tensest moments somehow have the same energy as like, I dunno, reading about someone's dinner party anxiety in a victorian novel despite it being in the middle of a gang war or whatever

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:
pale has entirely too many scenes of teenagers stripping or thinking about their boobs. also it sucks. poor guy peaked with his first serial.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Anias posted:

Wildbow has interesting ideas but he likes writing misery porn so the interesting ideas are drowning in angst that wasn't that interesting at 11 and certainly isn't interesting now.

i feel like worm benefited immensely from the fact that the main character's response to the increasingly awful poo poo that happens is always "no, it's still good, this is fixable" no matter how irreversibly hosed things are and I can't imagine how angsty his other works are if they're written through the lens of characters who aren't insane in this very specific way

NinjaDebugger
Apr 22, 2008


cock hero flux posted:

i feel like worm benefited immensely from the fact that the main character's response to the increasingly awful poo poo that happens is always "no, it's still good, this is fixable" no matter how irreversibly hosed things are and I can't imagine how angsty his other works are if they're written through the lens of characters who aren't insane in this very specific way

No that's pretty much his MO, as far as I kept reading (through most of his third serial) just keep digging deeper because poo poo only ever gets worse.

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.
Worm is extremely misanthropic, atheistic, and determinist. That's a pretty harsh vibe for a story about trying to be a hero, and that's why I think it works. At least it's what resonates with me.

The real world is to all appearances purely physical, operating according to probabilistic laws. People keep doing their darndest to prove that people suck. Given this, what does it mean to try and do good?

Taylor makes a lot of mistakes, but she never stops trying to do right. She sacrifices and sacrifices until nothing is left. In so doing she achieves the greatest possible amount of good, the saving of a trillion trillion worlds. And then she cries and says it's not worth it because the ends do not justify the means.


To me, that's some great poo poo. That's hitting on something powerful.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Wittgen posted:

Worm is extremely misanthropic, atheistic, and determinist. That's a pretty harsh vibe for a story about trying to be a hero, and that's why I think it works. At least it's what resonates with me.

The real world is to all appearances purely physical, operating according to probabilistic laws. People keep doing their darndest to prove that people suck. Given this, what does it mean to try and do good?

Taylor makes a lot of mistakes, but she never stops trying to do right. She sacrifices and sacrifices until nothing is left. In so doing she achieves the greatest possible amount of good, the saving of a trillion trillion worlds. And then she cries and says it's not worth it because the ends do not justify the means.


To me, that's some great poo poo. That's hitting on something powerful.

Lol?

Rob Filter
Jan 19, 2009
Wildbow really hates drug dealers / drug users.

I remember been younger and reading the death note manga, and seeing the phrase "dangerous marijuana addict", and then the dangerous marijuana addict has a gun and is robbing banks and lmao. The official translations change this to "dangerous drug addict" because in the west "dangerous marijuana addict" pushes the bounds of credulity even for right wing anti-drug people.

Wildbow has written chapters more right wing than death note. His infamous chapter where he has a literal Nazi heroically refuse to let drug dealers / addicts sit at the crime roundtable for criminals doing crime things because dealing drugs was a step too far, and the protagonist is like "Yeah!!!" in the narration, lmao. He hasn't to my knowledge written anything quite that yikes since, but once you see his war-on-drugs politics you can't unsee them.

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Rob Filter posted:

Wildbow has written chapters more right wing than death note. His infamous chapter where he has a literal Nazi heroically refuse to let drug dealers / addicts sit at the crime roundtable for criminals doing crime things because dealing drugs was a step too far, and the protagonist is like "Yeah!!!" in the narration, lmao. He hasn't to my knowledge written anything quite that yikes since, but once you see his war-on-drugs politics you can't unsee them.

this does make it hilarious later when taylor is convinced to take ecstacy by someone literally saying "dude trust me", cementing the fact that being a huge hypocrite is one of her defining character traits

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


The thing that truly baffles me about Wildbow is how immune the man is to critique and improvement.

There's a piece of advice I give to nearly 100% of the writers I talk to, and it boils down to "Read more, write more, seek critique, repeat." There's a tendency to fixate on reading fancy books about writing, genre staples, structure, symbolism, and all that jazz, but at the end of the day I really feel that if you're regularly writing and seeking feedback, that's all you need.

If you asked me before I'd seen Wildbow's work, I would've told you that it was physically impossible to not dramatically improve this way- I like to tell people that every writer has around a million words of bad writing in them, and the only way to get those words out is to write them. But Wildbow, man... Worm was pretty rough and full of beginner writing mistakes, and that's understandable- it was his first major work! But every subsequent serial seems to retain the writing problems he already had while heaping new ones on top.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Rob Filter posted:

Wildbow has written chapters more right wing than death note. His infamous chapter where he has a literal Nazi heroically refuse to let drug dealers / addicts sit at the crime roundtable for criminals doing crime things because dealing drugs was a step too far, and the protagonist is like "Yeah!!!" in the narration, lmao. He hasn't to my knowledge written anything quite that yikes since, but once you see his war-on-drugs politics you can't unsee them.

I don't know... Grue thinking he and his sister should live near the E88 headquarters because it's the safest part of the city is pretty good. Also that one hero who was invented for the Leviathan fight so he could sacrifice his life heroically even though he got cancelled by social media for being a racist -- makes ya think, huh. There's a lot of race stuff in the early parts of Worm that is at best well-meaning but ill-considered.

Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Apr 19, 2022

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm still convinced he's never actually talked to a black person or even seen one in his life and gets all his knowledge of North American race relations from tv. It makes a lot of sense in that lens.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017


Definitely lol.

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012

Rob Filter posted:

His infamous chapter where he has a literal Nazi heroically refuse to let drug dealers / addicts sit at the crime roundtable for criminals doing crime things because dealing drugs was a step too far,

It's worse, it was specifically because Skidmark is black. And he did this in front of Grue, also black, who sided with him.

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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Larry Parrish posted:

I'm still convinced he's never actually talked to a black person or even seen one in his life and gets all his knowledge of North American race relations from tv. It makes a lot of sense in that lens.

"azn bad boys"

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