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FPyat posted:Cloud Atlas-like
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May 20, 2022 23:36
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I should have said Cloud Atlas-esque instead.
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May 20, 2022 23:43
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Cloud Atltastical.
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May 21, 2022 00:12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIK4w4-H4Tk
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May 21, 2022 00:39
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Can we just take an aside from the scientific realism of supernovae to note that the prose, especially for something marketed as litfic, is absolutely loving awful. It inspires nothing. It's like gruel. The president of China speaks like some guy down the pub. It's like Brandon Sanderson on nutrient paste.
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May 21, 2022 00:50
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Just a heads up, new season of love, death and robots is on Netflix.
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May 21, 2022 01:32
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Strategic Tea posted:Can we just take an aside from the scientific realism of supernovae to note that the prose, especially for something marketed as litfic, is absolutely loving awful. It inspires nothing. It's like gruel. The president of China speaks like some guy down the pub. It's like Brandon Sanderson on nutrient paste. This I’m utterly confounded how many reviews of this book, and books just like it, wax on about the beautiful prose when it’s watery bland paste filled with cliches and banal phrasings. The best I can guess is people think fey wistful prose equals beautiful, when it’s more often merely vague. The author could write “the ocean was so big and oceany” and the people who like that poo poo are doing all the work imagining the ocean for themselves and thinking, “ah yes, so beautiful.” This book in particular can’t even settle on a pov or tense, and it’s not because it’s experimental—it follows no set pattern, it just veers all over the place with no thought behind it at all. The change from present to past tense isn’t used to establish a different voice, because the author’s voice is completely samey no matter what person/tense she uses. On top of that, when she returns to the only character she used present tense for, she doesn’t slip back into present tense, but keeps using past tense like she does for the rest of the book, so the tense shift is utterly loving pointless. She started that way and got bored of it I guess. The true main character’s pov comes in mid-book in 1st person, but she can’t even be arsed to keep that up. Every pov had a distinct voice in Cloud Atlas, whereas there’s no voice whatsoever in this pathetic imitation. She can’t even be bothered to keep up with the story structure. After the mid far-future bit, she wants to stay so bad in the time traveller’s pov, that she just goes gently caress it for the rest of the book and lets him take over all the sections that were supposed to wrap up all the previous characters. Because it’s not a book about different people at all—their only purpose was to set up her stupid gimmick. There was no art to it at all, she just hung her lovely painting in a better artist’s frame and did such a lovely job it ended up a crumpled mess.
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May 21, 2022 01:37
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FPyat posted:Hanya Yanagihara has also written a Cloud Atlas-like book called To Paradise. Which apparently sucks: https://harpers.org/nc-redirect/?redirect_to=https://harpers.org/archive/2022/01/ad-nauseam-hanya-yanigihara-to-paradise-the-pandemic-novel/
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May 21, 2022 01:43
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Stuporstar posted:This Ok, but I don't think you've really told us how you feel about this book.
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May 21, 2022 01:50
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ScienceSeagull posted:Which apparently sucks: https://harpers.org/nc-redirect/?redirect_to=https://harpers.org/archive/2022/01/ad-nauseam-hanya-yanigihara-to-paradise-the-pandemic-novel/ I couldn't even make it all the way through that review, much less the actual book.
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May 21, 2022 01:56
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Just a heads up, new season of love, death and robots is on Netflix. Have they discovered that women write short fiction yet
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May 21, 2022 02:01
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General Battuta posted:Have they discovered that women write short fiction yet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love,_Death_%26_Robots#Volume_III_(2022)
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May 21, 2022 03:36
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Two seasons in a row. Nice.
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May 21, 2022 03:46
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Stuporstar posted:This This is how I feel about The Name of the Wind too. People are just really, really bad at separating 'kind of artsy' and 'is actually good'.
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May 21, 2022 04:06
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Just a heads up, new season of love, death and robots is on Netflix. eh, it was icky the first time around, with that juvenile flick about a woman and her remotely controlled beast
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May 21, 2022 04:12
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Yeah where's my adaptation of Bloodchild
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May 21, 2022 04:12
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They had some good ones over the last few seasons. Beyond the aquila rift was amazing. They had some poo poo ones too, like the cyber wolf woman thing. In vaulted halls entombed is my favorite of this batch. Better than the short story, which I thought was going to be hard to do. Still like the robot one and the sequel this season, but holy gently caress is scalzi turning the smug up to lethal levels.
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May 21, 2022 06:31
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Less Fat Luke posted:Seems literally like all dudes
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May 21, 2022 09:31
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pfft, girls don't like robots, they're too busy writing scientifically inaccurate stories about the moon
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May 21, 2022 09:45
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:When you're losing a book-off with your boyfriend so hard that you have to write to GQ about it The most upsetting thing about this is that it just reinforces the stereotype that wimmin don't read "man books" and is delivered as a truth to the mostly male readership. If anything it suggests an intense lack of curiosity on her part. gently caress you lady.
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May 21, 2022 11:13
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Hanya Yanagihara posted:There are no movies, no television, no internet. You can’t, as we once had, spend an evening debating an article or a novel or bragging about a vacation to someplace far away. You can’t discuss the person you’ve just had sex with, or how you were interviewing for a new job, or how much you wanted to buy a new car or apartment or pair of sunglasses. You can’t do these things because none of those things are possible any longer, at least not openly, and with their elimination has also disappeared hours’, days’ worth of conversations. quote:In addition to her baldness and scars, Charlie’s entire personality—her literal-mindedness, her “affectlessness,” her “seriousness”—consists of the miracle cure’s side effects. These would be satirical jokes I would have made up about this kind of novel.
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May 21, 2022 11:20
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Stuporstar posted:
I'm reliably informed by John Boyne that you can't expect authors to know poo poo about what they're writing, and that copy-pasting the first result from Google is sufficient for research. And that cancel culture exists and is really bad, and is when the Auswitz Museum calls you out on your bullshit.
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May 21, 2022 12:42
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FPyat posted:These would be satirical jokes I would have made up about this kind of novel. I don't know the context but I'm imagining some dipshit aging millennial who's become so brain damaged from their computer job and never going outside their Williamsburg apartment that they've honestly forgotten that actually most people in the world talk about bullshit like that in real life. Or at least talk the most about it there. Like those people talking about leaving Twitter in the same tone as a suicide note because they forgot how to make friends.
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May 21, 2022 14:03
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That part's describing a dystopian 2093 in which "The State" has outlawed all of those activities (and most others) because there's been a worse pandemic every decade after this one.
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May 21, 2022 14:19
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Oh, so it's the manifestation of the authors fear of being banned from Twitter then
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May 21, 2022 14:58
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FPyat posted:Hanya Yanagihara has also written a Cloud Atlas-like book called To Paradise. Any good? I really enjoyed A Little Life. Hieronymous Alloy posted:When you're losing a book-off with your boyfriend so hard that you have to write to GQ about it quote:According to Nielsen, despite men famously making up half the population, they only account for 20% of the audience for literary fiction. The rest are too busy playing video games.
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May 21, 2022 15:51
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The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J5X5LVQ/
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May 21, 2022 18:35
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moonmazed posted:pfft, girls don't like robots, they're too busy writing scientifically inaccurate stories about the moon I beg to differ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdokZ-pbYTo
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May 21, 2022 20:45
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Altered Carbon (Takeshi Kovacs #1) by Richard K Morgan - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FBFMZ2/ The Last Wish (Witcher) by Andrzej Sapkowski - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0010SIPT4/ Annihilation (Southern Reach #1) by Jeff VanderMeer - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EGJ32A6/ His Dark Materials (Golden Compass #1) by Philip Pullman - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FC1ICM/ Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000SEGUDE/ The Silicon Mage (Windrose #2) by Barbara Hambly - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TC14A0/
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May 22, 2022 18:54
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https://twitter.com/sfwa/status/1528461525865799680
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May 23, 2022 00:43
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Edit: Beaten The offending term was 'colored' which while extremely outdated, I dunno whether I'd call it a racial slur
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May 23, 2022 00:45
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Wait I thought people were using it again
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May 23, 2022 00:49
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Isn't she like, 75 loving years old? Old people are expected to slip back into the words and patterns they learned as a kid tbh
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May 23, 2022 00:57
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Isn't she like, 75 loving years old? Old people are expected to slip back into the words and patterns they learned as a kid tbh 71 or 72, but if she's too old not to slip and use words she should have stopped using in her 20s she's too old to be on a panel.
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May 23, 2022 01:10
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Maybe the NAACP should change their name so 71 year olds don't get confused.
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May 23, 2022 01:29
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pseudorandom name posted:Maybe the NAACP should change their name so 71 year olds don't get confused. Don't be a dickshit. People of color can call themselves whatever they choose but us white assholes need to suck it up and deal.
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May 23, 2022 02:32
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Sorry, this is literally the first time I've ever heard of it referred to as a slur rather than being old-fashioned and not the preferred terminology.
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May 23, 2022 03:17
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TOOT BOOT posted:Edit: Beaten Wait, that’s a slur? I’m white and don’t use it but this is also literally the first time I have seen it marked as a slur.
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May 23, 2022 03:44
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My captain in the army wanted to be referred to as black or colored. I am also confused. Why is "person of color" good and "colored" bad?" Maybe it's a local cultural thing, I don't know. Or is it just that the word was in high use during more racist times? Fwiw, people should be given an opportunity and have a teaching moment if language offends instead of this instant shunning. I haven't followed anything Lackey has said or blogged. Maybe she really doubled down on it or something?
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“Colored” has a little more of a history as a negative term, considering that it was used to denote which spaces were appropriate for non-whites to use.
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