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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Apparently, this one-shot is being turned into the next SJ thing to replace whatever dies after Ayashimon. Makes me think of Turning Red, but with dragons. It looks neat, and the chill vibes might fill the Magu-chan shaped hole left in Jump.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Apparently, this one-shot is being turned into the next SJ thing to replace whatever dies after Ayashimon. That one shot is indeed very fun. Ayashimon at least appears to be trying to set up an okay conclusion. Doron doesn't appear to be trying to wrap up anything at all. Earthchild is Earthchild and could end any moment having accomplished nothing of note, but could conceivably go on forever accomplishing nothing of note as well. Shugomaru appears to be setting itself up for a proper end. Based on the current story situation I'd say Shugomaru is the next to go.
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May 27, 2022 07:53
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Shonen Jump generally always axes things in introduction order so Eartchild will only get axed after Shugomaru and Doron do. Doron at least seems to currently not be actively wrapping up but who knows what'll happen. With Ayashimon and eventually Shugomaru gone, it'll almost certainly be at the bottom of the ToC.
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May 27, 2022 11:31
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i don't even see the point of wrapping something up if its got like 30 chapters. Just end it
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May 27, 2022 11:43
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The Ruri Dragon one shot was great. Really looking forward to that one.
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I didn't see it get talked about but MarriageToxin had another chapter. I like the creativity in the battles between two specialists, but it's hard not to compare this to Sakamoto Days. Ushio's really fun though, especially when he used water to create his own sound effects.   Brought To You By posted:I really don't care for the current storyline in Monster 8. Didn't ask for Ichikawa to just magically be compatible with a numbered weapon and then for a month of training and acclimation to be off-screened to get us to this point. Why'd we focus on this guy anyways when the vice commander and #10 were right there? One of the weak points of Monster #8 for me is that it's lacking in fun character dynamics. Maybe part of that is because we haven't had focus Leno for so long (and Furuhashi has been a nothing background character), but it's rather hard to care about these recent chapters. Doron Dororon has a similar set-up but it has the characters bounce off each other. Though that's probably because Monster #8 doesn't have any down time. It's all battles, all the time, so we never see what the cast is like on their downtime.
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Kaiju 8 had the beginnings of a good group dynamic and then immediately split them all up into different squads. And personally I don't think that squad captain otaku guy is as interesting or funny as the author clearly thinks he is.
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May 28, 2022 15:11
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Apparently, this one-shot is being turned into the next SJ thing to replace whatever dies after Ayashimon. Very into this, I am game.
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May 28, 2022 15:19
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Kaiju 8 has felt kind of unforcused ever since it split the party for no reason (I mean, there was a reason but it was clearly contrived to split the party), immediately after introducing a bunch of characters, only to forget about all of them and Leno for nearly a year while Kafka proves himself (fair) and Kikoru has daddy issues (also fair) and we spend entire chapters swooning over I honestly wonder if there wasn't a point where an editor stepped in and said "You are not going to pull a Tite Kubo here, knock it off."
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May 28, 2022 15:56
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Yeah, Monster 8 got a lot worse after Kafka revealed that he is the titular monster to other characters. Which is a pity, because I really like that the author had guts to upend the status quo like that, but almost every development after that was kind of a miss.
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Lt. Lizard posted:Yeah, Monster 8 got a lot worse after Kafka revealed that he is the titular monster to other characters. Which is a pity, because I really like that the author had guts to upend the status quo like that, but almost every development after that was kind of a miss. Same. It’s currently lacking in momentum for me.
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May 28, 2022 18:51
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i think the other bit to it is they would often have little bursts of weekly chapters, which could help something like this move along despite lacking as compelling of a character focus
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Alacron posted:Kaiju 8 had the beginnings of a good group dynamic and then immediately split them all up into different squads. I'm still not sure why Kafka and the others couldn't have been placed under Hoshina's command. It would have forced the two childhood friends to actually talk after years of being apart, and would've brought more focus to the older characters rather than introducing a bunch of new ones.
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i can see why they wouldn't want to put the dangerous monster they expect to have to put down sooner or later under someone with a personal attachment to him.
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Honestly I've always found Monster 8's writing a little weak. Not abysmal or anything, but nothing amazing. As an example, it's never really felt to me like Kafka's age has impacted anything other than being an arbitrary ticking clock back near the start of the series, which is no longer relevant. Really the only thing his age brings to the story is that since he worked cleanup crew, he knows more about kaiju anatomy compared to others - beyond that, he tends to act just as immature as his teenage peers. The series is fine, it's well-drawn, has solid action, and has creative monster designs. However its writing has always seemed like a weak point to me.
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CodfishCartographer posted:Honestly I've always found Monster 8's writing a little weak. Not abysmal or anything, but nothing amazing. As an example, it's never really felt to me like Kafka's age has impacted anything other than being an arbitrary ticking clock back near the start of the series, which is no longer relevant. Really the only thing his age brings to the story is that since he worked cleanup crew, he knows more about kaiju anatomy compared to others - beyond that, he tends to act just as immature as his teenage peers.  Yeah, it's such a non-factor. They try to say that Kafka being 30 is a disadvantage because he can't release the same amount of force in his suits unlike the younger recruits, but his monster form already bypasses that anyway. He doesn't really have any responsibilities or worries that someone in his 30s would have either.
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May 28, 2022 21:31
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I think he's more mature than his colleagues and it shows when he deals with hardships.
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amigolupus posted:He doesn't really have any responsibilities or worries that someone in his 30s would have either. Hey speak for yourself buddy
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Yeah I think Kaiju 8 needs to refocus on just Kafka again. The other characters aren't bad but they can come off as a little generic shonen fightmen.
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kafka is generic shonen guy too is the problem. his one trick is being older than normal but he doesn't do anything with it
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I still like Monster #8 and think the arc immediately after the reveal was extremely strong. The current arc is a bit more predictable and weak, but I'm having fun. Also, I still can't get over goons complaining about 30-year old dudes somehow being immature, lol. By the way, Ayashimon's ending sucked rear end.
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I don't think it was remotely possible for it to end well where it was.
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I don't think its creator expected for it to end so quickly, probably got told in the middle of the last arc it was going to end, so no time to even try to wrap it up in a sensible manner.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I don't think it was remotely possible for it to end well where it was. When I saw that they were getting to the final fight, I figured maybe it'd at least get a perfunctory ending! But nope! This sucks, lmao. The series might have been at the bottom of the ranking, but it didn't deserve to be done this dirty.
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And we have a few more to go before Earthchild gets it in the neck, too.
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I quite enjoyed Ayashimon and I'm totally bummed it was canned.  Hypothetical arc ideas. (Arcdeas? No, too forced.): -Negotiations with the yokai/folk monsters from a different region. Maybe even throw in like a mothman or domovoi or whatnot for the international crowd. Leads to punching. -Hashihime got added to Doppo's creepy art collection, but Urara & Co. rescue her and sort-of revive her with a pile of money earned through a big scam. Leads to punching. -Big ol' look inside Doppo's head. Leads to punching.
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Ayashimon getting killed is confusing and saddening. And yeah couldn't see a good way to end things there. In better things, this week's Elusive Samurai is absolutely stellar. RIP Shokan Sakamoto : lmao and oh no. One Piece: aww yeah Undead Unluck: this arc has gotten me back in on this, but this is basically Rip again. Immediately afterwards. The Rip fight was good. But again?
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Lock Knight posted:I quite enjoyed Ayashimon and I'm totally bummed it was canned. Unlikely but for foreign youkai. If power is determined by belief and the ayashimon are weak cause no one believes. Then where does the devil fit in.
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I do kind of wonder when they learned Ayashimon got the cut because that would explain getting the ersatz end boss fight where the opponent copied Doppo's end move and we got to see Maruo defeat it. This week's Roboco is fun with all the anime talk. Also does anyone else feel like JJK has really lost the thread with this recent arc? The death game keeps introducing more and more characters and we end up in a situation like this week's chapter where two characters I have no reason to really care about fight.
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muscles like this! posted:I do kind of wonder when they learned Ayashimon got the cut because that would explain getting the ersatz end boss fight where the opponent copied Doppo's end move and we got to see Maruo defeat it. Sort of. I've liked most of the fights enough anyway but yeah. That said this is probably the last of it before we get into the meat of the arc and Megumi's sister and poo poo.
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they should've just stayed in the meta world from a couple chapters ago for the Ayashimon ending
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I really disagree about jjk, it's very good right now and the fights are peak hxh stuff these days. it's one of the best ongoing series in jump that ayashimon ending is such a bummer tho
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muscles like this! posted:
I mean the most recent chapters are featuring a guy that was previously hyped up and talked about and then revealed in this arc, showing off his ultimate techniques and stuff. it's not really bringing in a new character, it's paying off all the foreshadowing. Also the guys who were just introduced in this arc have owned.
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the only part that has me a bit meh on it is the new villain's power isn't exciting yet and he clowned a much more established character immediately before this.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I really disagree about jjk, it's very good right now and the fights are peak hxh stuff these days. it's one of the best ongoing series in jump Agreed really liking JJK. (My Avatar may give it away) MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 21:21 on May 29, 2022 |
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dogsicle posted:the only part that has me a bit meh on it is the new villain's power isn't exciting yet and he clowned a much more established character immediately before this. Panda unfortunately is the Worf of the series. He's technically only won a single fight (I think) against Mechamaru and everything else has been him jobbing.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I really disagree about jjk, it's very good right now and the fights are peak hxh stuff these days. it's one of the best ongoing series in jump It's even more of a bummer because the last chapter sucked. Last chapter had a great opening and some momentum all through, but this one combined the vices of a rushed ending and a non-ending, even giving the main villain a vague sympathetic backstory out of nowhere. Here's hoping the next batch has some legs, because Ayashimon's set was a real loser.
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Brought To You By posted:Panda unfortunately is the Worf of the series. He's technically only won a single fight (I think) against Mechamaru and everything else has been him jobbing. To be fair to Panda, his only other fights have been against Geto a Special Grade, Geto again, and now Kashimo. Guess his sorta fight against Kirara counts too, but that was not a loss for him.
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I cannot believe the last chapter of Ayashimon. I feel like someone high up at Shonen Jump must have just hated this series or something. It feels like the author only heard it was being canned halfway through this chapter.
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