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Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

Sailor Viy posted:

He has in fact said he's held back by mental health problems, according to Wikipedia. (The citation links to a bunch of youtube interviews that I can't be bothered watching, but I'll assume it's accurate.) IMO there are a lot worse things to do with your life than fundraising for charity, even if you do skim off the top, and most of the ire directed towards Rothfuss is plain old fandom entitlement more than a reaction to any specific thing he did wrong.

I just don’t like his writing style. I’m like, way, way more mentally hosed up than him, and I haven’t even checked, I just have a strong feeling about it. I’m sure Patrick Rothfuss is a perfectly kind and moral personage et cetera.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Finished up Portal In The Forest by Matt Dymerski and... It was kinda good?

It reads sort of like a scp entry about finding and dealing with an scp. There's quite a few logic leaps that leave you wondering "what the gently caress?", but I have to admit I did enjoy the weird rear end dimensions he thought up for travel.

The weirdest moment to me was this guy finding a portal in the woods, and before we learn his bona fides, he just goes "what else could it be but a dimensional portal?" like he's run across these on sale at Kmart before.

The main character is never really given a history or explanation of why he thinks like a scp scientist on vacation. He just does. It's a lil jarring.

Still it's on KU and it's kinda interesting. Worth a read if you dig alternate dimensional Earth's and how badly they can get hosed up.

Didn’t mean to block you out stupid sexy flan ders

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

With today's compression algorithms I was able to squeeze down the first five books of the Chronicles of Amber to this: "The Aristocrats!"

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
"Having entered the hosed-up new world through a magic portal in the woods, I began reading the hosed-up cognitohazard book without the Rube Goldberg machine I built to handle it safely."

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

pradmer posted:

The God Is Not Willing (Witness #1) by Steven Erickson - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GVBKC1N/

I like how Kindle will let you buy the Malazan books for ten bucks each, or as a full pack for no discount whatsoever. I'd be better off trawling the used bookstores.

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Each of those books clock out at around a thousand pages so you save big on shelf space buying the ebook omnibus

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

John Lee posted:

I like how Kindle will let you buy the Malazan books for ten bucks each, or as a full pack for no discount whatsoever. I'd be better off trawling the used bookstores.

They're trying to do you a favor and discourage you from reading them

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



sourdough posted:

They're trying to do you a favor and discourage you from reading them

They're good op. The chain of dogs owns

Sailor Viy
Aug 4, 2013

And when I can swim no longer, if I have not reached Aslan's country, or shot over the edge of the world into some vast cataract, I shall sink with my nose to the sunrise.

The first Malazan book was great. Like someone recounting their 10-year D&D campaign while you're recovering from a fever. I should read more but I can't be hosed.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

They're good op. The chain of dogs owns

I've never read the books but as someone who has seen everything everywhere all at once, boy that's one hell of a mental image.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Sailor Viy posted:

The first Malazan book was great. Like someone recounting their 10-year D&D campaign while you're recovering from a fever. I should read more but I can't be hosed.

The rest of them are much better than the first. And the back story for Malazan did actually come from their d&d sessions over the years.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I've never read the books but as someone who has seen everything everywhere all at once, boy that's one hell of a mental image.

I've never seen that though.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


As someone who owns a physical copy of every (Erikson-written) Malazan book, yeah you definitely could do worse than getting digital versions. They take up an entire bookshelf of their own.

Xenix
Feb 21, 2003

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

They're good op. The chain of dogs owns

So, something that happens in book 2 of 10 is the highlight of the series. They're decent for like 4 books then steadily march down hill and up their own rear end at the same time. The last 2 books were terrible slogs and I wish I hadn't wasted my time on the entire series. There were too many plot threads that either ended up unresolved or had literally no bearing on the main story (like what the gently caress was with the island folks fighting dragons? Or the loving wet fart that was the end of Karsa's story?). Basically thousands of pages of useless, boring chaff that should have been cut. I'm pretty sure his editor was more hands off than Robert Jordan's was.

MartingaleJack
Aug 26, 2004

I'll split you open and I don't even like coconuts.
As Erikson says, if your internal critic gets in the way of producing pages, you have to kill the critic. I think he did that right after Deadhouse Gates...I agree with him, if you're okay writing airport books

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
Fwiw I liked the 2nd book and I think the 3rd, then trudged through book 9 hoping any would be good and finally gave up with no interest in finishing the series

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009
i think i read up to the end of the bonehunters - i haven't read any of the prequels by Ian Esslemont and i have no intention to do so, even if i go back and finish the main sequence one day

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Xenix posted:

So, something that happens in book 2 of 10 is the highlight of the series. They're decent for like 4 books then steadily march down hill and up their own rear end at the same time. The last 2 books were terrible slogs and I wish I hadn't wasted my time on the entire series. There were too many plot threads that either ended up unresolved or had literally no bearing on the main story (like what the gently caress was with the island folks fighting dragons? Or the loving wet fart that was the end of Karsa's story?). Basically thousands of pages of useless, boring chaff that should have been cut. I'm pretty sure his editor was more hands off than Robert Jordan's was.

I disagree on it being boring tbh. His style of writing works for me, but I also love Glen cook so idk

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Although it was jarring at first, I really liked the switch to Trull’s viewpoint and thought that heralded some of the best books in the series.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

branedotorg posted:

i think i read up to the end of the bonehunters - i haven't read any of the prequels by Ian Esslemont and i have no intention to do so, even if i go back and finish the main sequence one day

I'm a fan of the Malazan books, but yeah, don't bother with Esslemont's stuff.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Xenix posted:

So, something that happens in book 2 of 10 is the highlight of the series. They're decent for like 4 books then steadily march down hill and up their own rear end at the same time. The last 2 books were terrible slogs and I wish I hadn't wasted my time on the entire series. There were too many plot threads that either ended up unresolved or had literally no bearing on the main story (like what the gently caress was with the island folks fighting dragons? Or the loving wet fart that was the end of Karsa's story?). Basically thousands of pages of useless, boring chaff that should have been cut. I'm pretty sure his editor was more hands off than Robert Jordan's was.

Agreed. The new one is good, less filler.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Xenix posted:

So, something that happens in book 2 of 10 is the highlight of the series. They're decent for like 4 books then steadily march down hill and up their own rear end at the same time. The last 2 books were terrible slogs and I wish I hadn't wasted my time on the entire series. There were too many plot threads that either ended up unresolved or had literally no bearing on the main story (like what the gently caress was with the island folks fighting dragons? Or the loving wet fart that was the end of Karsa's story?). Basically thousands of pages of useless, boring chaff that should have been cut. I'm pretty sure his editor was more hands off than Robert Jordan's was.

I like the idea of having all these swirling plot threads, some of which tie together and some of which spin off into their own thing, but it was at times really frustrating. There are lots of moments where he's being needlessly oblique and vague, and I think it gets in the way of enjoying the story. Like how he doesn't loving explain the ending and instead makes you deduce what the point of the last 3 million words was. It's really emotionally satisfying once you put all the pieces together, but I think that's an unneccessary hurdle that really harms people's enjoyment of the series.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

I really enjoyed reading Malazan but felt like I could use an annotated version or an illustrated who's who to keep it all straight.

My brother was really drawn to the series and reread it a dozen times enjoying making the connections and trying to explain things he found to me but after a few years I could only remember the basic beats and couldnt keep up.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/nrlehz/fan_companion_guides_to_the_first_half_of_the

May help idk

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers is $1.99 today:
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bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!


I'll check it out, thanks, especially if I get back to the series. Way behind on books right now. That reminded me I had The God is Not Willing (Witness #1) imported from the UK to get it for my brother before its release stateside then didn't get around to it yet myself and it was just discounted on kindle already.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

DACK FAYDEN posted:

On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers is $1.99 today:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B004LLII12

This is a good one, I read it years ago and literally, that’s correct, literally yelled ‘Holy poo poo’ when the Powers-style plot escalations kept coming.

Anybody see the Depp movie they based on it?

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Remulak posted:

This is a good one, I read it years ago and literally, that’s correct, literally yelled ‘Holy poo poo’ when the Powers-style plot escalations kept coming.

Anybody see the Depp movie they based on it?

AFAIK they didn't base much on it at all, they were essentially paying to use the title.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Remulak posted:

This is a good one, I read it years ago and literally, that’s correct, literally yelled ‘Holy poo poo’ when the Powers-style plot escalations kept coming.

Austin Powers?

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Austin Powers?

The book did help inspire the Monkey Island comedy games

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

bagrada posted:

The book did help inspire the Monkey Island comedy games

I just learned that "the Depp movie" = "a god drat Pirates of the Caribbean movie".

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

I disagree on it being boring tbh. His style of writing works for me, but I also love Glen cook so idk

I love most of Glen Cook's work and The Black Company, Passage at Arms, and Darkwar are personal faves, but I could not get through Malazan despite making three attempts -- each time I got more bored and annoyed with it faster and made it less far than the last.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

pradmer posted:

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I'd recommend this to anyone that hasn't read it yet. Story about post economic and climate collapse New York but not in a grimdark post apoc way.

Doctor Faustine
Sep 2, 2018

Remulak posted:

This is a good one, I read it years ago and literally, that’s correct, literally yelled ‘Holy poo poo’ when the Powers-style plot escalations kept coming.

Anybody see the Depp movie they based on it?

I’ve not read the book or seen that particular Pirates movie, however I did listen to the episode of the Bad Books for Bad People podcast on it and it sounds like a hoot.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world
With all the Malazan talk, what have people that liked the first 4 books of Malazan liked that scratches the same itch? Particularly the epic scale and moments when everything comes together in a way that can't help but make you cheer?

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

Hiro Protagonist posted:

With all the Malazan talk, what have people that liked the first 4 books of Malazan liked that scratches the same itch? Particularly the epic scale and moments when everything comes together in a way that can't help but make you cheer?

It's not trying to do the same thing exactly, And it's not nearly as elaborate (or sometimes obtuse) but I thought that Miles Cameron's Traitor Son Cycle scratched some of the same itches for me (with a more satisfying conclusion).

McCoy Pauley fucked around with this message at 23:30 on May 31, 2022

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Austin Powers?

Tim Powers. Very different Powers.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Xenix posted:

So, something that happens in book 2 of 10 is the highlight of the series. They're decent for like 4 books then steadily march down hill and up their own rear end at the same time. The last 2 books were terrible slogs and I wish I hadn't wasted my time on the entire series. There were too many plot threads that either ended up unresolved or had literally no bearing on the main story (like what the gently caress was with the island folks fighting dragons? Or the loving wet fart that was the end of Karsa's story?). Basically thousands of pages of useless, boring chaff that should have been cut. I'm pretty sure his editor was more hands off than Robert Jordan's was.

100% agree on all of this.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Deptfordx posted:

100% agree on all of this.

I'd been considering giving this series a shot, but I think no at this point. There's apparently 24+ books and counting to this series.

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Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
Hey, a while ago when I started reading Imajica on Kindle, it said it featured a bunch of new illustrations. So far it’s contained zero illustrations, and doesn’t appear to contain any later. Where do I find the illustrations? I need to know what Pie ‘oh’ pah’s genitals look like!

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