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"The boring kind of Nonsense" is what I'd go with. Edit: Did I seriously snipe with that?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MangaRanking/comments/v2odzg/weekly_shonen_jump_ranking_26_may_30_2022/ Earthchild has been near the bottom of the rankings lately, but not the very bottom; even with Ayashimon and Shugomaru gone, it still has Doron Dororon below it. I don't especially want Doron to be cancelled, but I'd be a lot less upset about its cancellation than I am about Ayashimon; it's kind of generic, isn't it? Like a mix of Black Clover, Candy Flurry, Demon Slayer, and Bleach - and those aren't even particularly unique series to begin with. It's at its best when it leans into the Candy Flurry-style character dynamics, but it feels like it's largely abandoned those by basically dumping the original female lead.
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most of what i like about doron now is the new maybe female lead. there was nothing wrong with the first one, but this weird stalker with goku hair that is also very competent at her job is great.
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Yeah Doran can die for all I care. Get rid of the most interesting part of the series for no good reason and you've got nothing left.
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i liked ginchiyo but don't feel like she has been a particularly big loss when we've got heisuke/toma/naotora all in the mix. though it has felt a bit like they're leaning on naotora more than the others, so some better balance or new blood could help.
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Super Phone seems like it has legs to me.
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I personally feel like Doron’s character interactions/dynamics are too paint-by-numbers to be interesting or good. Even the side characters are just quirky without having appealing personalities.
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Desperate Character posted:drat Choujin X is really loving good right now. The monster designs are all so menacing. Definitely. I'm also liking the new Tokio and Asuma dynamic. Asuma was always presented as perfect, when he had a giant jealousy streak. Silver2195 posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/MangaRanking/comments/v2odzg/weekly_shonen_jump_ranking_26_may_30_2022/ Earth Child is fascinating in that it seems to have a Streisand effect going on. Just check different Reddits/forums. It gets more discussion than the other series that we actually consider good. Simply because it's so bad everyone is wondering how and why. I simply can't imagine it surviving long, but at the same time, there's so much attention for how bad it is I wouldn't be surprised if it survives a little longer. I miss the old passive aggressive commander from Doron. I'm not a fan of the new stalker person. I feel like Doron is cycling through it's secondaries in a weird way. MonsterEnvy posted:Super Phone seems like it has legs to me. Agreed
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Desperate Character posted:drat Choujin X is really loving good right now. The monster designs are all so menacing. The author is right up there with Claymore’s author in the group of people who should just be allowed to draw weird messed up monsters all day.
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Earthchild is going to get an anime adaptation with multiple seasons, a movie, and spin-offs.
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The heavy metal/fantasy manga Bastard is apparently getting a new anime adaption on Netflix starting June 30th https://www.netflix.com/title/81281582 Never read the series myself or watched the original OVA but I hear good things about it Larryb fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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Putting in a full hearted recommendation for Gachiakuta. Currently serialized in shonen magazine weekly Its a fun shonen with pretty stylized art (thats rough at first but cleans up and finds a consistent goal in 5ish chapters), and I like the way the cast interacts. The setting is a the world that is divided into people who live above the clouds and those below. The people above have no idea whats beneath the clouds and dispose of their trash by throwing it off the edge. They also execute (they believe, since none return) criminals, the poor and lower classes by throwing them off. Theres a severe divide between the high and low classes thats baked into how their society acts and treats people, essentially living by a caste system. Below is a world tainted by the miasma of trash thrown by the people above, and that gathers into beasts which can only be defeated by people wielding jinki: objects of personal and emotional value that awaken to power from the care and belief of their owners.    Im very much enjoying it so far but it hasnt had its real hook moment yet, but what is here is interesting. Rudo is a good boy. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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ImpAtom posted:It was a difficult decision but cancelling One Piece to make room for more Earth Child was the right move. 5 years from now, WSJ will be nothing but Earth Child and various Earth Child spin-offs about other Earth Children. There'll be an Earth Children school with manga of various other genres taking place at it. Mumbling posted:I personally feel like Doron’s character interactions/dynamics are too paint-by-numbers to be interesting or good. Even the side characters are just quirky without having appealing personalities. Something about the characters feels very vaguely similar to World Trigger for me (though World Trigger has its uniquely great action set-pieces to carry it, plus the characters work well as basically "sports manga characters," which is what World Trigger is at its core). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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Earth Child is....the Morbius of manga?
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Sindai posted:Earth Child is....the Morbius of manga? Fhe beat part of earthchild is when he said "ITS MAMORIN' TIME" amd he mamoru'd all over those guys
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Sindai posted:Earth Child is....the Morbius of manga? Dammit you beat me to it!
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Larryb posted:The heavy metal/fantasy manga Bastard is apparently getting a new anime adaption on Netflix starting June 30th I read some of it when I was a teen. All I remember is that it was extremely horny (I feel like the protagonist was a creep, but it's been a while) and all the spells were names of metal bands.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I read some of it when I was a teen. All I remember is that it was extremely horny (I feel like the protagonist was a creep, but it's been a while) and all the spells were names of metal bands. Oh yeah, he's definitely a creep
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Shinji2015 posted:Oh yeah, he's definitely a creep He's the titular Bastard for a reason from checking.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:All I remember is that it was extremely horny (I feel like the protagonist was a creep, but it's been a while) and all the spells were names of metal bands. A young Araki starts taking notes.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Putting in a full hearted recommendation for Gachiakuta. Currently serialized in shonen magazine weekly
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So what determines if something gets a closing chapter? I just remembered that after being cancelled/ended both Agravity Boys and 9 Balls dragon parade got special closing chapters. Agravity boys at least ran for over a year and seemed to be popular enough. No idea over 9 balls.
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Darth TNT posted:So what determines if something gets a closing chapter? I just remembered that after being cancelled/ended both Agravity Boys and 9 Balls dragon parade got special closing chapters. Sometimes they're done to pad out the page counts for the volume release. That is, the manga couldn't fit easily into (X) number of volumes, so they put in some bonus material, like an old one-shot by the author, or they let the author have a bonus chapter to bring things to a better stopping point.
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List of Jump series that were unjustly canceled: Ayashimon, Candy Flurry, The Last Saiyuki, Phantom Seer, Red Hood. List of Jump series that were justly canceled, but should have gotten a few more chapters for a more coherent ending: Guardian of the Witch and...actually I can’t think of any other examples. Anyone have any manga to add to either list?
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MxO is gonna be on that first list for sure. Edit: I'm conflicted about Red Hood being on the first list rather than the second because it lost a lot of steam very fast and by the time the boat training arc hit I was checked out completely. Maybe it would have found it's feet afterward when they were into a better arc with the actual antagonists but I dunno if the interesting meta stuff near the end was something it would have naturally done or just something to wrap it up. Pierson fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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Pierson posted:MxO is gonna be on that first list for sure. Yeah, I guess you can argue that Red Hood was actually improved by the abruptness of the cancellation. In general, just because I consider a series unjustly canceled doesn’t mean I’m unaware of its flaws. I think Phantom Seer suffered from the main character having a rather arbitrary and overpowered power set (like if Law was the main character of One Piece), Red Hood had some pacing problems, and Candy Flurry needed more of a distinctive “hook.”
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Silver2195 posted:List of Jump series that were unjustly canceled: Ayashimon, Candy Flurry, The Last Saiyuki, Phantom Seer, Red Hood. How about a list of justly canceled: Ghost writer manga? I tell C? Cop and Dolphin? Shugomaru? Candy Flurry had a bad start and clunky world building. I really liked the character interactions, but that was pretty much the only thing it had going for it and even those only came in the latter half of its short life. I'd say it was justly cancelled, even if I did enjoy it. I would've liked to see a few extra chapters from Last Saiyuki but it wasn't exactly great either.
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Darth TNT posted:How about a list of justly canceled: Ghost writer manga? I tell C? Cop and Dolphin? Shugomaru? Demon’s Plan and Amalgam of Distortion come to mind. Tokyo Shinobi Squad was slightly less bad but still justly canceled. I haven’t read U19 but am willing to take others’ word for it that it was bad. Edit: Also Neru, I guess. Edit 2: And in the “haven’t read it, but am willing to believe it was crap” vein, Build King. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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Darth TNT posted:How about a list of justly canceled: Ghost writer manga? I tell C? Cop and Dolphin? Shugomaru? I'd throw Build King in that list for sure
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Shinji2015 posted:I'd throw Build King in that list for sure Ooh this lets me segue into Marry Grave being cancelled too soon but fortunately the author is now doing a fantasy building manga that is much better than Build King. Edit: Also adding to the pile of justly cancelled is U19. Vise the Stompy fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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samurai 8 was euthanized and it was long overdue
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Silver2195 posted:List of Jump series that were unjustly canceled: Ayashimon, Candy Flurry, The Last Saiyuki, Phantom Seer, Red Hood. Also speaking of Marry Grave, the author hinted he might be able to continue it at some point, but it would be a long time before that happens because of the manga he is currently doing.
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Also, I only read the first few chapters of Bone Collection and never read Moriking, Zipman, or Our Blood Oath. How bad were they?
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justice for Double Arts
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Silver2195 posted:Also, I only read the first few chapters of Bone Collection and never read Moriking, Zipman, or Our Blood Oath. How bad were they? Bone collection was a solid OK. Urusei Yatsura but a battle shonen. Moriking wad a decent gag manga. It lived long enough to tell its story and deliver a few choice gags but mostly its was just decent. Zipman was made by a MHA Assistant and it showed in the art (especially the teeth!) and storytelling, but it too was just ok. MHA captured lightning in a bottle somehow and trying to follow its lead just wont work without a great deal of change. The characters werent anything to write home about so it floundered. Our blood oath sucked. Jon Irenicus posted:justice for Double Arts Will they wont they highschool romance pays the bills though
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Pierson posted:MxO is gonna be on that first list for sure. the meta stuff was getting hinted at before it was clearly getting cancelled so I think it must have been the idea from the start
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Silver2195 posted:List of Jump series that were unjustly canceled: Ayashimon, Candy Flurry, The Last Saiyuki, Phantom Seer, Red Hood. Haven't read Saiyuki or Phantom Seer, but Red Hood and Candy Flurry weren't really good enough. They had things to like about them, but nothing really stood out. In general the cancelled series are usually pretty mediocre. Ayashimon was the only one in recent memory (at least in the "action/fighting" subgenre) that I thought had a chance before it was cancelled. WSJ actually seems to be pretty good at picking manga in recent years. Most of the current running series are pretty great. Probably the most mediocre fighting manga in semi-recent years I can think of is Black Clover (and I don't think it'd make the cut it if it debuted now). Rigged Death Trap posted:MHA captured lightning in a bottle somehow and trying to follow its lead just wont work without a great deal of change. The characters werent anything to write home about so it floundered. In hindsight, I think MHA benefited heavily from coming out at a time when the major series were coming to an end (or stalling out) + having extremely good art. Naruto was literally just a few months from ending, and Bleach was really really bad at the time (not that it got any better later). There was never anything particularly great about its writing, but it was "a very competent and well-drawn shounen" at a time when there weren't many around. (I actually think that MHA can be compared pretty accurately with Naruto. Both have far stronger writing early on, and both have extremely good and distinct art. And both become much worse later on, though more-so in the case of Naruto.) Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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Ytlaya posted:WSJ actually seems to be pretty good at picking manga in recent years. Most of the current running series are pretty great. Probably the most mediocre fighting manga in semi-recent years I can think of is Black Clover (and I don't think it'd make the cut it if it debuted now). Depends on how you look at it. For one thing, "fighting" is a pretty big qualifier here. I guess there are several different types of mediocre-to-bad series that appear in Jump from time to time:
With the obvious exception of the Bleach kind, Jump has become pretty good at filtering series like these out within 25 or so chapters. That said, I feel like instead of having to cancel series, editors could do a better job of either salvaging these series or filtering them out in advance by asking authors the right questions (like "what sets your protagonists apart from the other protagonists in this magazine?" or "why don't you take a hiatus and get some rest for a few weeks?" or "do you have any actual familiarity with the nominal subject of this non-battle battle manga?" or "what's going to happen in chapter 2?"). I assume that asking questions like those is part of an editor's job already to an extent, but I suspect that not all editors do an equally good job of it.
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To avoid being overly negative, here's an example of a manga that could have ended up in each category I listed in the hands of a worse author, but did a great job of avoiding those pitfalls:
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