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Z the IVth posted:Erda wanted to give them all perfect hair but Emps went
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about how you should spend more time doing fascism rather than preening about in front of a mirror and wow would you look at that.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:it is kinda weird that nearly all the chaos painters are more experienced (cuz actual noobs just get tac marines yadda yadda), and the omnipresent baldness is to make it easier to paint, so all the experienced painters are getting the easier to paint ones and the less experienced painters are getting the harder to paint ones
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Jun 7, 2022 02:04
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SardonicTyrant posted:The Horus Hairesy
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Jun 7, 2022 02:08
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Arquinsiel posted:Hair is way easier to paint than skintones. more like peeps expect less out of painted hair than painted skintones
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Jun 7, 2022 02:19
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I'm not sure what your avatar's expectations have to do with it, but it really is just a lot easier to do hair that looks okay than it is to do skintones that look okay.
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Jun 7, 2022 08:09
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Benagain posted:Buddy if it's like gotrek in AoS it'll be great just a drunken insane killing machine making GBS threads on everything he sees 40k already has an abundance of axe wielding maniacs that fit this role though.
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Jun 7, 2022 08:51
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Arquinsiel posted:I'm not sure what your avatar's expectations have to do with it, but it really is just a lot easier to do hair that looks okay than it is to do skintones that look okay. That used to be the case but now anyone can just smear Contrast on it and call it a day.
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Jun 7, 2022 09:02
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Fearless posted:40k already has an abundance of axe wielding maniacs that fit this role though. If there is one thing life has taught me it's that you can never have enough axe wielding maniacs.
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Jun 7, 2022 09:20
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notaspy posted:Give me a couple of ideas: This is just reminding me that the Corpse-Grinder Cults from Necromunda are still the coolest take there ever has been on Khorne worship and also just such a neat bit of worldbuilding. Mikojan posted:Has any new blood popped up thats put anything out that is worth reading? Kaal posted:In my internal canon: One of the lost legions was explicitly too evil for the emperor to tolerate and had to be put down, while the other legion was too good and refused to participate in the Great Crusade so they met a similar fate.
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Jun 7, 2022 17:07
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Yeah I mean look at this guy  He's just as likely to be a loyalist. These dudes just loved being awful and doing space crimes. Of course that's why I love them. It doesn't matter who they're skinning babies for, only that babies get skinned. Plus they look sick!
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Jun 7, 2022 17:29
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Any opinions on the new Sigismund and Huron books?
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Jun 7, 2022 18:05
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:40K fiction needs more ambiguity, not less. It needs more hard facts that are contradicted nearly immediately afterwards.
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Jun 7, 2022 18:50
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t3isukone posted:See, I just genuinely can't believe that there's a way to outdo the Night Lords when it comes to that. And I say this as someone who LIKES the Night Lords and finds Konrad Curze a deeply tragic character. Here's my theory-crafting take on that: To my mind, at least, I'd say that pre-Heresy Night Lords were an expression of the emperor's aspect of dominance. They sought to rule their territories using fear and brutality to deter humans from disobedience or misbehavior. Curze grappled with the concept of the ends justifying the means, and he ended up spiraling and being consumed by it. But they fundamentally saw themselves as part of human imperial society, and acted in their nominal interests (up until the betrayal, when their ends shifted). Whereas I would envision an evil Lost Legion II as being obsessed with their own transhumanism - wanting to replace humanity rather than rule over it. They would be an expression of the emperor's superiority. Perhaps this would be shown by the Lost Primach becoming increasingly frustrated with human limitation, and attempting the mass conversion of their human populations into Space Marines, regardless of the casualty rates. A gangster like Curze, a zealot like Lorgar, or even a butcher like Angron can be tolerated in ways that a supremacist cannot. Conversely, I'd see a moral Lost Legion XI as being overly focused on peace and stability. They'd be an expression of the emperor's role as a statesman, and see themselves more as diplomats than warriors. Their Lost Primarch would be doubtful about the merits of empire building via the point of a sword, and his willingness to seek peaceful conflict resolution and even power sharing would jeopardize imperial ambitions. A pacifist who refuses to fight, and indeed calls into question the value of war, represents just as much a threat to the emperor's plans as a sociopath like Perturabo or schemers like Alpharius and Omegon. What I think is similar about these two legion concepts - and why they would be intentionally covered up via damnatio memoriae - is that they call into question critical aspects of imperial society. Even if it managed to strengthen the species without killing everyone, evolutionary transcendence would fundamentally upset the balance of weak humans ruled by elite transhumans that the emperor's rule is founded upon. And on a similar note, a successful peaceful confederation of equals would disrupt the sovereignty of imperial autocracy. Even Mortarion's cowardice, Fulgrim's vanity, and Horus' insecurity were presented as wanting to replace the emperor rather than remake society entirely. Whether it is replacing humans with transhumans, or creating a peaceful galactic union, both concepts challenge the hierarchies that the empire (and later the chaos worlds) is built upon. And even the destruction of such legions would immediately raise difficult questions about the ultimate role of transhumans in a society that they can never become part of nor be at peace with. Hence why they would be erased from imperial history, and yet also presage the Heresy.
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Jun 7, 2022 20:24
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Pyrolocutus posted:Any opinions on the new Sigismund and Huron books? Both fine. Sigismund was the better of the two. I get my 40k fix through audible so my criteria for what is fine might be a bit mixed.
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Jun 7, 2022 20:30
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I finished Throne of Light and it's... Kind of trash? Nothing of note happens, they introduce a concept at the start of the book and at the end of the book they're like "Is it that? Maybe! Who knows!". It's a filler book from start to finish. Like a bottle episode in a TV show.
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Jun 7, 2022 21:14
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:It needs more hard facts that are contradicted nearly immediately afterwards. That's what the rulebooks are for!
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Jun 7, 2022 21:45
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Demiurge4 posted:I finished Throne of Light and it's... Kind of trash? Nothing of note happens, they introduce a concept at the start of the book and at the end of the book they're like "Is it that? Maybe! Who knows!". Looks like Dawn of Fire is doing its job as a HH followup then
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Jun 7, 2022 21:56
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bob dobbs is dead posted:theyre prolly gonna go and try to figure out gotrek in space, won't they? I want official Slayer Votann kin. I've already kitbashed a few but give me a few more anyway dammit!
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Jun 7, 2022 22:54
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:It needs more hard facts that are contradicted nearly immediately afterwards. It needs more explicitly unreliable narrators.
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Jun 7, 2022 23:36
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Bucnasti posted:It needs more explicitly unreliable narrators. the whole imperium and chaos can't both be all alpha legionnaires! Or can they? Ardent Communist fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jun 8, 2022 |
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Jun 8, 2022 00:33
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Kaal posted:In my internal canon: One of the lost legions was explicitly too evil for the emperor to tolerate and had to be put down, while the other legion was too good and refused to participate in the Great Crusade so they met a similar fate. maybe but kurze and angron are around doing god knows what horrors, hell the night lords are basically just a death squad from the sadist part of hell. my guess would be that it was either super xeno lovers OR it was psycho like kurz but like not mentally ill. Big E knows he is gonna have to blow kurze and angrons brains out and at some point because were both dead weight outside terror tactics filled with maddness/etc. my guess is psycho could have actually possed a threat instead of nuisance
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Jun 8, 2022 01:06
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It could very well be something really minor that got them excommunicated. Early on the Emperor was probably like “these guys are messed up, not what I intended, good thing I have 18 more.” Later on he realized they were all hosed up and he couldn’t afford to lose any more. Or they just fell to chaos. When it’s one legion at a time it’s easy to cover that poo poo up and expunge all memory of them. When half of them go bad at once you can’t memory hole them the same way.
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Demiurge4 posted:I finished Throne of Light and it's... Kind of trash? Nothing of note happens, they introduce a concept at the start of the book and at the end of the book they're like "Is it that? Maybe! Who knows!". Yeah but I think that mystery is going to be the central plot device going forward in DoF and/or will tie into Abnett's Bequin stuff.
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Jun 8, 2022 03:25
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One of the banished Primarxhs was Boat Primarch and was excomed because Emps gets seasick The other was raised by Orks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyepqEI_tnM The trailer for Interrogator https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/08/dan-abnett-interview-how-to-start-and-finish-the-most-epic-series-in-sci-fi Also the final HH book (supposedly) is called The End and the Death.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/08/dan-abnett-interview-how-to-start-and-finish-the-most-epic-series-in-sci-fi Can't wait for the six book Scouring coda.
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So how is Abaddon pronounced? Like, is it Abba-don (emphasized like Megatron) or A-BAD-don (emphasized like “abandon” or “a bad one”)? Like for some reason “Abba-don the Despoiler” sounds correct in my head, but at the same time “A-bad-on Black” (the Citadel paint) also sounds correct. But they both sound wrong if I switch them.
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Per the silly Bible podcast “Apocrypals,” it’s the latter.
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Xenomrph posted:So how is Abaddon pronounced? Like, is it Abba-don (emphasized like Megatron) or A-BAD-don (emphasized like “abandon” or “a bad one”)? Honestly, even the people who work at GW agree with you - they say "a-BAD-dun black" and "ABBA-don" as a character.
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ABBA-DAWN, per the Saturnine audiobook at least.
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Xenomrph posted:So how is Abaddon pronounced? Like, is it Abba-don (emphasized like Megatron) or A-BAD-don (emphasized like “abandon” or “a bad one”)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rLbC4s-2w
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quote:Dan: The final book is called The End and the Death. Astute readers will know exactly where that phrase comes from (clue: he’s the one who walks beside you…)
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Count Thrashula posted:Honestly, even the people who work at GW agree with you - they say "a-BAD-dun black" and "ABBA-don" as a character. This is legit funny Unhelpful, but funny
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Mocking Abbadon is always a helpful and productive activity.
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Klaus88 posted:Mocking Abbadon is always a helpful and productive activity. Its really played out tbh Especially because ADB has made him a lot more interesting in the Black Legion books
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AnEdgelord posted:Its really played out tbh *slow pan to a bunch of Night Lords making jerking-off motions* I agree, it's just funny that they don't
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Abbadon was also a demon horse in a manowar song as described by Orson welles narration who used the a-BAD-on way so that will always sound right to me.
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The actual answer is "English is funny and the syllable that immediately follows the last syllable of a word changes the stresses" but gently caress all people learn scansion anymore so it's just weirdos like me who know that both are correct and you're only noticing it being done with his name because it's a silly nerd character when you never notice it being done with your own.
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'abaddon' was a borrowing from the hebrew 5 centuries before the lads at nottingham were born
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Xenomrph posted:This is legit funny They are just inconsistent, they use both
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