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Tiny Timbs posted:They should sell these to American chuds American chuds: Known for their love of small, gas efficient coupes
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Minister of Defence Reznikov. A good read. "...we have already received, bought on the market, manufactured and handed over to the Armed Forces of Ukraine a significant number of weapons. These numbers would have been enough for a victorious defence operation against any army in Europe. But not against russia." https://uatv.ua/en/ukraine-has-enou...fense-minister/ Why is current stock insufficient defensively against Russia? "Ukrainian troops are suffering massive losses as they are outgunned 20 to one in artillery and 40 to one in ammunition by Russian forces" https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-war-intelligence-russia-kyiv-military-b2096715.html Heavy artillery and armor cannot arrive soon enough. Step it the gently caress up.
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Silver2195 posted:South Africa was a somewhat unique case due to its "fair but not free" (or whatever the terminology is) elections. There's no real mechanism for any substantial subset of the Russian people, maybe not even the "oligarchs," to kick Putin out, no matter how much they want the sanctions gone. Israel is basically the only country anyone talks about sanctioning that's comparable to South Africa in this regard, I think. Oligarchs alone are very unlikely to be able to kick him out. Veering a little bit into semantics, an “oligarch” in Russia was a term for an entrepreneur with a sway over the federal politics, who actively exercised it. Those were beasts of Yeltsin era, who have all been forced to pledge their influence to Putin, exiled, or outright killed. The current class of so-called oligarchs does fail to meet the traditional domestic definition of it, and is broadly subservient to Putin. An important function they ought fulfil is safekeeping of his assets - virtually everything they own has been redistributed by and through Putin, with them acting as useful idiots for absorbing sanctions, shielding rest of Putin’s wealth from them. Unless someone was uncouth enough to sanction all of them.
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fatherboxx posted:So they are either One weird trick to keep your forced conscripts from surrendering. POWs hate it!
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Oligarchs alone are very unlikely to be able to kick him out. Veering a little bit into semantics, an “oligarch” in Russia was a term for an entrepreneur with a sway over the federal politics, who actively exercised it. Those were beasts of Yeltsin era, who have all been forced to pledge their influence to Putin, exiled, or outright killed. The current class of so-called oligarchs does fail to meet the traditional domestic definition of it, and is broadly subservient to Putin. An important function they ought fulfil is safekeeping of his assets - virtually everything they own has been redistributed by and through Putin, with them acting as useful idiots for absorbing sanctions, shielding rest of Putin’s wealth from them. Definitions be what they may, Putin is just a guy. Caesar was just a guy. Wielding absolute power is absolutely dangerous. People aren't subservient to Putin because he wields The One Ring, but merely because it's in their interest - be it fear, power, money, nationalism, what have you. Push, push and push, before you know it he's dead.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Oligarchs alone are very unlikely to be able to kick him out. Veering a little bit into semantics, an “oligarch” in Russia was a term for an entrepreneur with a sway over the federal politics, who actively exercised it. Those were beasts of Yeltsin era, who have all been forced to pledge their influence to Putin, exiled, or outright killed. The current class of so-called oligarchs does fail to meet the traditional domestic definition of it, and is broadly subservient to Putin. An important function they ought fulfil is safekeeping of his assets - virtually everything they own has been redistributed by and through Putin, with them acting as useful idiots for absorbing sanctions, shielding rest of Putin’s wealth from them. Not to mention that olygarchs most hurt by the sanctions, those who had ties and holding in the west were likely against the war in the first place. While weapon manufacturers Rothenbergs are hurt the least
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Burns posted:Germany's leadership often comes out as dogshit in coverage. What is the general German public opinion on whats been going on? Depending on poll, roughly 50/50 split on whether to ship heavy arms to Ukraine, give or take 5 points. When it comes to taking tougher stances vs Russia, pretty unpopular as of May.
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Burns posted:Germany's leadership often comes out as dogshit in coverage. What is the general German public opinion on whats been going on? A post few weeks earlier was about German stockholders complaining about their losses and how unfair that they lose money over something that isnt Germany's problem
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Burns posted:Germany's leadership often comes out as dogshit in coverage. What is the general German public opinion on whats been going on? Honestly it's funny that anyone expects Germany to be a leader in a military situation. They're uh pretty or of practice, and it shows. I'm not exactly pumped to have Germany return to it's role a great military power. Japan, too.
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Some russian banks started applying negative rates to foreign currency accounts, up to -12% a year in one case. That's how you know everything is going great.
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Count Roland posted:Honestly it's funny that anyone expects Germany to be a leader in a military situation. They're uh pretty or of practice, and it shows. I'm not exactly pumped to have Germany return to it's role a great military power. Japan, too. Ill never understand this fear that two countries who were horrible authoritarian empires 80 years ago will become horrible authoritarian empires again if they decide to stop neutering themselves militarily.
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mlmp08 posted:Depending on poll, roughly 50/50 split on whether to ship heavy arms to Ukraine, give or take 5 points. When it comes to taking tougher stances vs Russia, pretty unpopular as of May. I am German and this is correct. We have like another month or two of even vaguely pretending that we wouldn't be fine with Russia winning in us, that's it
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Count Roland posted:Honestly it's funny that anyone expects Germany to be a leader in a military situation. They're uh pretty or of practice, and it shows. I'm not exactly pumped to have Germany return to it's role a great military power. Japan, too. Nobody is asking Germany to lead. Just to send, you know, some Marders from the 1970s that are in storage.
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Charliegrs posted:Ill never understand this fear that two countries who were horrible authoritarian empires 80 years ago will become horrible authoritarian empires again if they decide to stop neutering themselves militarily. Especially when these two countries bear almost zero resemblance today to the way they were 80 years ago.
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https://charter97.org/ru/news/2022/6/9/501892/ Heh after Lavrov's failure to arrive in Serbia he went to Yerevan. I love the protesters placard blunt and stupid just how russia understands. Lavrov - suka is a new one but I hope it catches on. He doesnt have a nickname yet.
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Is the situation similar in France and Italy? It does seem like the Europeans want a negotiated ceasefire but I'm not sure what their long term idea of the situation is. Just sacrifice Ukraine as a buffer state to keep the gas flowing? How will they get the US and Poland to stop giving support to the Ukrainians if the Ukrainians don't give up?
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WarpedLichen posted:Is the situation similar in France and Italy? It does seem like the Europeans want a negotiated ceasefire but I'm not sure what their long term idea of the situation is. Italy is a bit odd. If Germany has milquetoast leadership and public that is getting bathed in bothsideism by it, than Italy is much more laissez faire about platforming Kremlin’s jesters, but the leadership, basically just Draghi specifically, supports Ukraine hard enough to even support their EU membership. French public opinion I have no pulse of, but the government seems to be in this weird spot where Jupiter wants to become a hero of a Greek drama, while the rest of the governor is kind of just “okay bro” while sending supplies to Ukraine.
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WarpedLichen posted:Is the situation similar in France and Italy? It does seem like the Europeans want a negotiated ceasefire but I'm not sure what their long term idea of the situation is. Northern Europe and the EU politicians do not want any such. Russia has to withdraw. End of story.
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https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1534973237133725700 https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1534973251834761218 Any guesses who the rear end in a top hat 3 are?
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golden bubble posted:https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1534973237133725700 France, Germany, and Hungary (all guesses). Edit: Guessing more seriously - Germany, the Netherlands, and someone else. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jun 9, 2022 |
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golden bubble posted:https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1534973237133725700 Usual suspects, I assume: Hungary, Slovakia, maybe Italy? Czechia?
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Charliegrs posted:American chuds: Known for their love of small, gas efficient coupes They also think seatbelts and ABS turn people gay so I think a marketer could make it work
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Tiny Timbs posted:They also think seatbelts and ABS turn people gay so I think a marketer could make it work Driving at 200KM/He with no ABS and no seatbelts will turn them into men. Ready to fight for Russia's imperialist dreams
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Sekenr posted:https://charter97.org/ru/news/2022/6/9/501892/ Sure he does. Sad horse.
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Oracle posted:Usual suspects, I assume: Hungary, Slovakia, maybe Italy? Czechia? Two of them are Denmark and the Netherlands. The Netherlands was also against the visa-free regime for Ukraine back in the day.
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Ola posted:Definitions be what they may, Putin is just a guy. Caesar was just a guy. Wielding absolute power is absolutely dangerous. People aren't subservient to Putin because he wields The One Ring, but merely because it's in their interest - be it fear, power, money, nationalism, what have you. Push, push and push, before you know it he's dead. Yeah, for all endless rumours of total loyalty and fear of security apparatus and 20 years of negative selection I feel like ousting of Putin would be sudden and come from people that public and experts alike dont suspect. Not in the form of snuffbox to the head but Gorbachyov-style forced vacation.
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Oracle posted:Usual suspects, I assume: Hungary, Slovakia, maybe Italy? Czechia? WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Driving at 200KM/He with no ABS and no seatbelts will turn them into men. Ready to fight for Russia's imperialist dreams Sadly I don't think you could hit 200km/h in a Lada
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the popes toes posted:https://twitter.com/TayfunOzberk/status/1534953719909040129?cxt=HHwWgoC-3dKRoM0qAAAA I hope they sink the entire black sea fleet.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Driving at 200KM/He with no ABS and no seatbelts will turn them into men. Ready to fight for Russia's imperialist dreams I think it is seatbelt pre-tensioners specifically. I only pick up on this because I don't have any features from that list until very recently but I have always had seatbelts. Actually, do 76 series landcruisers have ABS? I guess they have a drivers side airbag but that would be about it. We are buy them new for work and they certainly don't have GPS or ESP hahaha.
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fatherboxx posted:Yeah, for all endless rumours of total loyalty and fear of security apparatus and 20 years of negative selection I feel like ousting of Putin would be sudden and come from people that public and experts alike dont suspect. Not in the form of snuffbox to the head but Gorbachyov-style forced vacation. I'm thinking inside coup, surprise assasination and then subsequent very painful civil war, but I think that's better than the current situation .
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Kraftwerk posted:I hope they sink the entire black sea fleet. I do too but probably not with these harpoons. Need something aircraft-based to hit stuff farther out. Electric Wrigglies posted:I think it is seatbelt pre-tensioners specifically. I only pick up on this because I don't have any features from that list until very recently but I have always had seatbelts. No idea about the LC, I'd expect them to at least have ABS but 
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mobby_6kl posted:I do too but probably not with these harpoons. Need something aircraft-based to hit stuff farther out. Harpoons are designed from the get-go for over-the-horizon targeting. I don't know how it works, I assume drone stuff hasn't been integrated already, but I suspect "punch in GPS numbers, let active seeker find and decide" is possible.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Driving at 200KM/He with no ABS and no seatbelts will turn them into men. Ready to fight for Russia's imperialist dreams How long will their dashcams continue to work under sanctions? 
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Hannibal Rex posted:How long will their dashcams continue to work under sanctions? Dash cams are foreign influence
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mobby_6kl posted:doubt it's Czechoslovakia. Same since the country ceased to exist in 1993.
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https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1535001763614445568 Does anyone know what about Ukraine will be decided by NATO?
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Ynglaur posted:https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1535001763614445568 Can’t possibly be more than thoughts and prayers (the door is still open, etcetera). Maybe a fresh pledge from whatever the current 30-40 military benefactors of Ukraine term themselves collectively, with the word itself eluding me at the moment.
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Ynglaur posted:https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1535001763614445568 It's pretty wild that we're 3 months into this and Zelenskyy can still travel around Ukraine fairly freely and can even consider a vacation to Madrid.
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