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Another fun one tonight. https://twitter.com/ncweaver/status/1539071991855996928 Waves is a token that's been used for all sorts of grifting for a long time (near Luna levels), and apparently even cannibalizes other things on their network, as Vires is on Waves. I suppose that'll be "was", now that they're out of money.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Is it true that women attempt more but men have more violent attempts and are therefore more successful? Men who attempt suicide are a lot more likely to use guns and that accounts for a large part of the discrepancy. It'd be interesting to see stats excluding gun deaths but those statistics are probably hard to come by and not incredibly reliable. (One of my friends from grad school works with death certificate data and from talking to him I've got a sense of just how hard it is to figure out what people are actually dying from based on what the death certificates say. Suicides are particularly tough because there's still a huge stigma attached to it and so coroners are under a lot of pressure to record those deaths as something else.)
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ultrafilter posted:Men who attempt suicide are a lot more likely to use guns and that accounts for a large part of the discrepancy. It'd be interesting to see stats excluding gun deaths but those statistics are probably hard to come by and not incredibly reliable. The CDC’s data on suicides if fairly robust. For suicide method the three big buckets are firearms, suffocation, and poison. Other methods are a small enough proportion they get lumped into other. For women it is roughly 30/30/30/10, respectively. Men are about 50/30/10/10. As for attempts, the data is less robust. The estimate I recall was a ratio of 3:2 for women:men.
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Jun 21, 2022 06:38
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I like how they picked 08 to 12 and then ignored how gold lost 40% of its value from 12 to 15 when the rest of the economy was going up like crazy. Looking at the gold chart and why did gold rise so much from 2001 to 2012? It like quintupled in price over that period after being fairly flat for a long time. All just rampant speculation?
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Jun 21, 2022 15:17
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How in the wide world of sports do you turn old phone batteries in a cash/food/resources during a Russian invasion of Ukraine style event?
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Jun 21, 2022 15:22
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God bless whoever was constantly screaming "CASH. PRODUCING. ASSET." to them.
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Jun 21, 2022 15:48
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Jun 21, 2022 16:05
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RIP chessie, thought of a balloon and died
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Jun 21, 2022 16:07
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this may sound callous but literally anything would have killed that pony if the balloon didn't assassinate it
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Jun 21, 2022 16:15
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I thought the horse ate the balloon and died, but no, it just looked at the balloon then keeled over and died of a heart attack. How much does a pony cost, and how much is the yearly upkeep?
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Jun 21, 2022 16:31
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A lot and a lot. There's a reason horses are associated with rich people.
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Jun 21, 2022 16:31
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ultrafilter posted:A lot and a lot. There's a reason horses are associated with rich people. I know, but what about those useless small ponies they give to their spoiled kids?
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Jun 21, 2022 16:34
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I hate anyone who had a pony as a child
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Jun 21, 2022 16:49
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LeafHouse posted:I hate anyone who had a pony as a child why would you go from a pony country to a non-pony country?
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Jun 21, 2022 17:33
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ultrafilter posted:A lot and a lot. There's a reason horses are associated with rich people. Also, poor people. Is your horse ill?
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Jun 21, 2022 17:49
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Am poor person from the countryside where horses are owned by all classes, and a pony costs Ł500. The difference between everyone is in the acceptable level of vets bills. No poor person or very rich person owns a "respiratory challenged" pony, they own a shotgun. Whereas a middle class person will spend thousands and thousands keeping the poor miserable thing alive while telling everyone who will listen how big the vets bills are.
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Jun 21, 2022 18:13
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Animal posted:How much does a pony cost, and how much is the yearly upkeep? You can get a horse for less than many dogs it's the upkeep that adds up and how much of it you're willing to do yourself.
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Jun 21, 2022 18:20
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Boo, Wheezing Mare: Inflation is a killer
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Jun 21, 2022 18:32
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Oof my neighbor told me her horse is having a health issue and she likely won't ride it again. So now it's just like a pet that lives somewhere else and is expensive. That's fun.
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Jun 21, 2022 18:36
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learnincurve posted:Am poor person from the countryside where horses are owned by all classes, and a pony costs Ł500. The difference between everyone is in the acceptable level of vets bills. No poor person or very rich person owns a "respiratory challenged" pony, they own a shotgun. Whereas a middle class person will spend thousands and thousands keeping the poor miserable thing alive while telling everyone who will listen how big the vets bills are. Yeah look up the horse serial killer. Dude was hired by people with 7-8 figure bank accounts to murder their fancy show horses and make it look like an accident for the insurance money.
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Jun 21, 2022 18:38
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StormDrain posted:Oof my neighbor told me her horse is having a health issue and she likely won't ride it again. So now it's just like a pet that lives somewhere else and is expensive. That's fun. If I lived somewhere with enough horse land that I could just have a horse I wouldn't mind a horse though.
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Jun 21, 2022 18:40
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Highbrow Slick posted:Boo, Wheezing Mare: Inflation is a killer
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Jun 21, 2022 18:42
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the horse thing gets even worse when you know that there is a lot of crossover between horse drugs and dog drugs, only the horse drugs are in a powdered form and 100x as expensive. So what wheezy pony owners would have had to do is spend hours a day crushing dog pills by hand to keep it alive.
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Jun 21, 2022 18:59
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pentyne posted:Yeah look up the horse serial killer. Dude was hired by people with 7-8 figure bank accounts to murder their fancy show horses and make it look like an accident for the insurance money. Ok i gotta know more
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Jun 21, 2022 19:02
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That’s a horse hit man not a horse serial killer.
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Jun 21, 2022 19:03
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learnincurve posted:the horse thing gets even worse when you know that there is a lot of crossover between horse drugs and dog drugs, only the horse drugs are in a powdered form and 100x as expensive. So what wheezy pony owners would have had to do is spend hours a day crushing dog pills by hand to keep it alive. So the dog pills go to horses while the horse pills go to humans. 
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Jun 21, 2022 19:03
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Highbrow Slick posted:Boo, Wheezing Mare: Inflation is a killer 
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In the beginning, there was Eohippus. The proto-horse. It was a small hooved animal about the size of a dog, and it ate grass. It was a simple creature, and in my (factual) opinion it represents the last time that the Horse lineage was untainted by sin. Now, it is worth noting that life was not easy for this proto-horse, in fact life for early hooved mammals was so difficult, that some of them said "gently caress that" and moonwalked back into the ocean to become cetaceans (Whales and Dolphins). That's right, The proto-horse had so stupid an existence, that hooved mammals went back into the ocean (lacking gills and flippers) and had more success than horses would have on land. Okay, So why was life so hard for Eohippus? Well, they are herbivores eating almost exclusively grasses. Grasses, as you may know, are not particularly nutritious. But more importantly, grasses are smarter than Horses. See, Grass does not want to be eaten, and evolutionary pressure caused the grasses to start incorporating silica (ie sand) into their structure. Silica is extremely hard. Hard enough to wear down Horse teeth. Now there is another evolutionary pressure acting on Eohippus; It's teeth wear down by the mere act of eating, to the point that it will starve to death. Eohippus teeth do not regrow, instead, Eohippus evolved bigger teeth. However, bigger teeth mean a bigger jaw, bigger head, and a bigger body to carry it. These opposing evolutionary pressures started an arms race in which the grasses incorporated more and more silica, and Horses got bigger and bigger, just so they would have big enough teeth to grow and reproduce before finally starving to death. And eventually our cute dog-sized pony evolved into the 1,500-pound, dumb-as-rocks prey animal i loathe today. But wait, there's more! See, Horses are extremely fragile. There is a reason why a "horse doctor" typically prescribes a dose of double-0 buckshot in the event of a leg injury. A horse is very heavy, and it has very thin legs to carry that weight. If any one leg gets fractured, it is exceptionally unlikely that it will heal well enough for the Horse to walk again, and is extremely likely to break again just carrying the weight of the horse. Remember, a human thigh bone is gigantic relative to the size of our bodies, a horse leg bone is absolutely minuscule relative to the weight it carries. Also, Hooves: I want you to imagine that instead of feet, you have a giant toenail at the end of your leg. That is how the Horse do. That is what a hoof is. A giant toenail. It is extremely delicate, and joined to the leg by a vast network of very fine connective tissue, and oh yeah it also bears the weight of a loving HORSE. If a hoof gets infected (which is quite common, because imagine how often poo poo would get stuck under your toenails if you walked on them), the Horse immune system responds in the typical way: via inflammation of the area. The problem is, a horse hoof is a rigid "cup". It cannot accomodate the swelling from inflammatory response. The Horse hoof will basically pop off the leg like a sock. On top of that, remember the Horse is putting 1,500 pounds of weight on it (because Horses can't redistribute their weight very well since all of their legs can BARELY support their share of the total weight). So, Horse apologists will claim that Horses are good at one thing: Turning Grass into Fast. As the previous two paragraphs show, they can't even do that right. Locomotion is very dangerous for a Horse, and if the Fast doesn't kill them they'll starve to death just by eating. On top of that, they are dumb as all gently caress. Horses will often do something called "Cribbing", which is when they decide to bite down on something (literally anything) as hard as they can, and suck in air. They just keep sucking in air until they inflate like a balloon. Eventually, the vet will show up and literally deflate the Horse with a long needle to let the air out of them, and hopefully get them to just... stop... First off, horses are obligate nasal breathers. If our noses are stuffed up we can breathe through our mouths. If our pets' noses are stuffed up (except for rabbits, who are also really fragile but unlike horses aren't stuck having only one baby a year) they can breathe through their mouths. If a horse can't breathe through its nose, it will suffocate and die. Horse eyes are exquisitely sensitive to steroids. Most animal eyes are, except for cows because cows are tanks, but horses are extremely sensitive. Corneal ulcers won't heal. They'll probably get worse. They might rupture and cause eyeball fluid to leak out. If you overexert a horse they can get exertional rhabodmyolysis. Basically you overwork their muscles and they break down and die and release their contents. Super painful, and then you get scarifying and necrosis. But that's not the problem. See, when muscles die hey release myoglobin, which goes into the blood and is filtered by the kidneys. If you dump a bucket of myoglobin into the blood then it shreds the kidneys, causing acutel renal failure. This kills the horse. People and other animals can get that too but in school we only talked about it in context of the horse. Horses can only have one foal at a time. Their uterus simply can't support two foals. If a pregnant horse has twins you have to abort one or they'll both die and possibly kill the mother with them. A lot of this has to do with the way horse placentas work. If a horse rears up on its hind legs it can fall over, hit the back of its head, and get a traumatic brain injury. Now to their digestive system. Oh boy. First of all, they can't vomit. There's an incredibly tight sphincter in between the stomach and esophagus that simply won't open up. If a horse is vomiting it's literally about to die. In many cases their stomach will rupture before they vomit. When treating colic you need to reflux the horse, which means shoving a tube into their stomach and pumping out any material to decompress the stomach and proximal GI tract. Their small intestines are 70+ feet long (which is expected for a big herbivore) and can get strangulated, which is fatal without surgery. Let's go to the large intestine. Horses are hindgut fermenters, not ruminants. I'll spare you the diagram and extended anatomy lesson but here's what you need to know: Their cecum is large enough to shove a person into, and the path of digesta doubles back on itself. The large intestine is very long, has segments of various diameters, multiple flexures, and doubles back on itself several times. It's not anchored to the body wall with mesentery like it is in many other animals. The spleen can get trapped. Parts of the colon can get filled with gas or digested food and/or get displaced. Parts of the large intestine can twist on themselves, causing torsions or volvulus. These conditions can range from mildly painful to excruciating. Many require surgery or intense medical therapy for the horse to have any chance of surviving. Any part of the large intestine can fail at any time and potentially kill the horse. A change in feed can cause colic. Giving birth can cause I believe a large colon volvulus I don't know at the moment I'm going into small animal medicine. Infections can cause colic. Lots of things can cause colic and you better hope it's an impaction that can be treated on the farm and not enteritis or a volvulus. And now the legs. Before we start with bones and hooves let's talk about the skin. The skin on horse legs, particularly their lower legs, is under a lot of tension and has basically no subcutaneous tissue. If a horse lacerated its legs and has a dangling flap of skin that's a loving nightmare. That skin is incredibly difficult to successfully suture back together because it's under so much tension. There's basically no subcutaneous tissue underneath. You need to use releasing incisions and all sorts of undermining techniques to even get the skin loose enough to close without tearing itself apart afterwards. Also horses like to get this thing called proud flesh where scar tissue just builds up into this giant ugly mass that restricts movement. If a horse severely lacerated a leg it will take months to heal and the prognosis is not great. I hope this information has enlightened you, and that you will join me in hating these stupid goddamn bastard animals.
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dervinosdoom posted:Ok i gotta know more Check Netflix Bad Sport for Horse Hitman episode. Tommy "The Sandman" Burns, killed show jump horses for wealthy owners for nearly a decade.
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learnincurve posted:Am poor person from the countryside where horses are owned by all classes, and a pony costs Ł500. The difference between everyone is in the acceptable level of vets bills. No poor person or very rich person owns a "respiratory challenged" pony, they own a shotgun. Whereas a middle class person will spend thousands and thousands keeping the poor miserable thing alive while telling everyone who will listen how big the vets bills are. Please be more sensitive about my Mikayla's respiratory issues TIA.  edit: pentyne posted:Check Netflix Bad Sport for Horse Hitman episode. Well if this isn't screaming for BWM thread movie night.
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If horses are so weak and bad, then why are donkeys, their equine cousins, so tough and good? Riddle me that!
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Vox Nihili posted:If horses are so weak and bad, then why are donkeys, their equine cousins, so tough and good? Someone who knows equines make the "virgin horse versus chad donkey", thanks.
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learnincurve posted:Am poor person from the countryside where horses are owned by all classes, and a pony costs Ł500. The difference between everyone is in the acceptable level of vets bills. No poor person or very rich person owns a "respiratory challenged" pony, they own a shotgun. Whereas a middle class person will spend thousands and thousands keeping the poor miserable thing alive while telling everyone who will listen how big the vets bills are. This you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8
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Teeter posted:A short and sweet one that I overheard the other day: And as long as they keep donating to my wife's channel, I will continue to ignore just how bad with money it is. 
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quote:If a horse rears up on its hind legs it can fall over, hit the back of its head, and get a traumatic brain injury. Just wear a 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5woNs9WRE&t=28s
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Sundae posted:Just wear a Wasn’t “upside down on her horse loan” the thread title for a while because of this very gif?
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Sundae posted:And as long as they keep donating to my wife's channel, I will continue to ignore just how bad with money it is. Twitch: The one place where owning a jacuzzi is GWM
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Also if a horse gets injured and cannot stand up, such as with a broken leg, they'll quickly commit suicide by literally beating their face against the ground until the brain damage kills them.
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