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Sickening posted:My grandfather told me that the curse of age is that your mind is the last thing that feels old. Your body is your tomb. Happy tuesday. My 96 year old grandpa is slipping but is still pretty mentally sharp and loves to fondly tell us (again) the time he was in Antwerp for Christmas during WW2 and how they all got prostitutes on shore leave when he was 17.
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Just booked the summer microvacation (PTO is two weeks, real vacation is a longer weekend across those two). Being a hermit for the last two years has made me kinda wishing to splurge on ancillaries and transport but I'm still not sure. Going to Monza for the 6hrs in July, I hope to see some cool LMP/LMDh cars(the full access pass was a pittance, 53€). To go back to IT, i hope to have MFA enabled on 50% of the user base by then, it's going swimmingly with our pilot group.
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Jun 21, 2022 19:11
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Vargatron posted:It's basically a technical lead job with about 70% doing work and 30% managing a team of 3. It's not full blown middle manager stuff. Lies (only mostly joking). I could describe my role like that. However, what I learned over the years its it's very easy for the manager part of stuff to shove the other bits aside because your role is to facilitate the work of your team and that may mean attending meetings, talking to other managers, doing performance reviews, mediating between members of your team, and giving up your involvement in some work to allow your team members to do it and grow. Basically, if you have responsibility for the careers of the people under you in any way, there's no such thing as majority technical in a management position. Technical lead roles where you are dictating the direction of work for the rest of your team without direct managerial oversight exist, but they are distinctly different from manager roles for this reason. Not to discourage you at all or make you second guess your choice, just my observations after about 12 years in a manager position and the reason why I should be transitioning to an Architect role by the end of the month.
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Jun 21, 2022 19:47
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jaegerx posted:I remember once showing up to an interview in my teens for a company who was a msp and the receptionist told me they require ties for interviews but not for work and I just said ok I’m not interested. This is my job now. Dress shirt and tie while I crawl under desks to install UPSes and poo poo. Half my work is in a warehouse and the fact that I gotta dress like this in a filthy environment is nuts. Worst part is this isn’t company standard. Rest of desktop support IT in the company wears same company issued clothes as the warehouse workers but the branch manager likes us in slacks better so welp. This is my first IT job and the place pays great for lvl2 desktop support but I don’t think this is the long term play.
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Jun 21, 2022 20:03
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bull3964 posted:Lies (only mostly joking). I'm in the process of developing exactly this role for myself, and overall it's pretty good. It's still work, but I like it because I feel like the activities I'm doing are having a demonstrably bigger impact. Not just in my own small team, but now I can see how that effort ripples out across the organization.
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Jun 21, 2022 20:43
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That's precisely what the Architect role I should be moving into any day now will be as well. Same team, my boss is even the same, but another less technical manager is going to take over the people part of my team and I'll just be setting the technical direction. I'm happy because I was never all that comfortable with the people part of the management duties (doing quarterly reviews, helping set career goals, telling people when they aren't performing to what we are expecting) and I was starting to worry that my technical skills were atrophying. Now I get to be more hands on with the technical stuff and still work with the same team.
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I gotta tell this story my wife told me today because it's so loving stupid. So my wife is heading off on parental leave soon and she's currently training her replacement. Her replacement is a fairly young person, early 20s and has worked there for about 2 weeks but in that time has been on-boarded into the companies security protocols and went through a ton of KnowBe4 security training. Today the replacement got an email from the "CEO" telling her she needed to buy him a bunch of iTunes gift cards for reasons unknown. Also there was a ransomware link in the email. Not only did she frantically run off and buy a poo poo ton of gift cards AND the grocery store tried to stop her because they knew something was up. But this girl caused a scene at the grocery store until they sold her them. She also clicked the link and got her computer ransomewared. This is a young person, a generation that should at least know some basic computer security. She didn't ask anyone why the CEO who has never met her, may not even know she exists would possibly ask her to do this. She just ran off and did it. I truly did not think a young person could be this naive. The gift card trick is used to trick senior citizens! Now I guess it's up in the air what they're going to do with this person, I imagine IT will want her gone but they also really need the replacement as my wife is heading out on leave in like 10 business days.
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Jun 21, 2022 22:41
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Le Saboteur posted:
computer literacy is a problem across all generations, the idea that any younger generation is better because they started using computers earlier has never held water
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Jun 21, 2022 22:54
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Computer literacy might actually get worse. How many 16 year olds these days have used a real computer, or had to deal with the operating system in any way at all? All they know is app stores and probably iOS. I wouldn't be surprised if some kids going into college have only used phones and tablets in their life so far.
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Jun 21, 2022 23:01
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She did at the very least have to watch a bunch of KnowBe4 security modules but I guess nothing in those stuck at all or she just barely paid attention.
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Jun 21, 2022 23:02
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I don't pay attention to knowbe4 training either
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Jun 21, 2022 23:08
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The biggest value of interning or taking an intern isn’t the on job training but how to office and adult in an office setting. Basic poo poo like dressing oneself, punctuality, maneuvering office politics, following chain of command, basic computer skills, and interpersonal relationships are so so lacking for most kids as they are thrust into adulthood. Some kid falling for a scam doesn’t surprise me in the least.
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Jun 21, 2022 23:08
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Death and The Sword but it's Target Gift Cards. "It will be an important lesson" Idk, I only know pratchett through memes.
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Jun 21, 2022 23:10
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Boba Pearl posted:
rectify that asap
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Jun 21, 2022 23:14
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Boba Pearl posted:Death and The Sword but it's Target Gift Cards. Honestly missing out.
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The Fool posted:computer literacy is a problem across all generations, the idea that any younger generation is better because they started using computers earlier has never held water We've had this debate - it's actually WORSE, because the younger generation has only grown up with devices with all the rough edges sanded off. All of us probably went through freeing up as much loving KB as possible of that 640k to get <x game> to run (gently caress you, Descent, for requiring SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN), or whatever other "fiddling with poo poo to get it to work" learning we did, whether it was just for the sake of fiddling or (more likely) to get access to games/porn/LiNuX ISo ToRrEnts, and more importantly the tranche of us in our late 30s/early 40s was really exposed to the Internet at exactly the time it became more than an academic/nerd toy (sorry 1980s nerds, the intense debates you had about the ending of Best of Both Worlds did not qualify as an actual world-changing use of the "Internet", in quotes because it was probably more BBS'), and consequently were also more exposed to both the way things could get hosed up and the way people could gently caress them up on purpose for scamming/malware purposes. So old people can't use computers because their brains are too set in stone to adjust to the freeform nature of the environment (ie deleting the IE icon off desktop means "THE INTERNET IS GONE"), but young people are used to walled-garden iThings, tapping on apps, and haven't learned any of the underlying way things work, and part of that is also not being paranoid enough that someone may be trying to exploit how things work. CEO sent me email? Yup that's the CEO what do you mean it might not be, it says his name right on the email! Boba Pearl posted:
I don't think you're allowed to post here anymore until you familiarize yourself. That's right, I'm Terryntolerant. LGBTQ? Love it, come on in. Anime-lover? I mean, not my cup of tea but you do you. Furry? Well OK whatever. Haven't read Pratchett? STOP POSTING AND GET READING. 
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He’s not bad, yea? I’ve heard good things.
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This but giving interns access to E-mail.
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Jun 22, 2022 00:12
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I'm 32 and was the first class in my state to have school supplied laptops for each student. Before then it was "the computer cart" that went between classes as teachers requested. We ran roughshod over those poor IT guys. Easily bypassing website or program blocks, basically doing whatever the hell we wanted. Fast forward to when I was 24 and going back to college, and a good amount of the freshmen didn't know how to use a mouse. They'd only ever used phones and tablets and if they had a laptop they just used the touchscreen on it. I definitely think there's a pretty narrow window where you can assume most people of a generation know how to use computers. Before that and they just never learned when they were young and their brain was sponge-like, after and they never had to learn much because it's all phones and tablets that don't take much understanding unless an individual seeks out more.
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The first OS I used was windows 95 It came out the same year I was born. I'd say that there's been no great die off of technological know how, but rather that 1) kids learned and cut their teeth on new technology (apps still take space, and the eternal expansion of application sizes has continued apace into the app era) and 2) all of you are nerds. Take a random 35 year old and I doubt they'd be better than a random 15 year old. The difference is that we are nerds, we care about computers, and we care about what goes on under the hood. Being a goon transcends age, and even website.
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GreenNight posted:He’s not bad, yea? I’ve heard good things. Read Pratchett immediately. I'm escalating this to tier III ASAP
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gently caress I feel old now
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GreenNight posted:He’s not bad, yea? I’ve heard good things. Terry Pratchett is one of the best authors of last few generations. I have re-written the sentence describing why I love his works about 4 times now, because each time it doesn't capture enough of what makes his works great. Just read some. Along with the above sword quote, here is Sam Vimes on economics. quote:The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes "Boots" theory of socioeconomic unfairness. Like any good media, you can read his books multiple times and get something new out of them each time.
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Boba Pearl posted:This but giving interns access to E-mail. The book this is based on got turned into a movie, it's on youtube right now, for free. Would I say it's the best one to start with or that it was a perfect adaptation? Well no, it's not perfect and it probably wouldn't make sense to start with that one but it's there and easily available. Alternatively people should watch Good Omens because that's a Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman collab and it's loving amazing. Not the same universe as Discworld but whatever, still amazing
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Once Pratchett gets going, you can understand exactly why satire is such a grave threat to the modern despot. "A Modest Proposal" can be hard to really grapple with when the idea of actual famine is so distant, but I suspect any of us can quickly pull up a dozen examples of the kind of malicious bureaucracy and urban poliltics that Vimes might encounter. We can quite easily put ourselves in Rincewind's shoes where we feel obligated to save the world (or our little part of it), despite our manifest unfitness (and constant complaints about it) for the task. And I suspect every one of us can identify with the Witches because we have both a deep, near-mystical understanding of the ways the world works and the social awkwardness to make the rest of our life a comedic challenge. And then you can turn around and experience the wonder of our mundane through Two Flower's eyes. Or the jesting grappling with duty and inevitability of Death personified. Throw in the brilliant parodies of modern life, the cutting observations around race and religion, and a general skill with words unfairly ignored because he dealt with "genre" books. All of my superfluous praise for Sir Pterry is only about half of enough.
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Wizard of the Deep posted:All of my superfluous praise for Sir Pterry is only about half of enough. I like that he said "whats the point of chapters" and just didnt use them.
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happy solstice it thread cheers
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Floppychop posted:I'm 32 and was the first class in my state to have school supplied laptops for each student. Before then it was "the computer cart" that went between classes as teachers requested. Feeling this. I remember when my brain was spongy and I taught myself the basics of Windows 3.1, 95, 98 and miscellaneous stuff like burning CDs and making PowerPoints for fun. Then I didn’t explore computer stuff for a while and now the 25-year-old at my job absolutely runs circles around me.
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NPR Journalizard posted:I like that he said "whats the point of chapters" and just didnt use them. I need a hint when to shut the light off and get some sleep, dangit.
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The Fool posted:happy solstice it thread That's a beautiful yard. Happy solstice and cheers to you. I'd really love to share some pictures, but I feel like some fucker will triangulate off mountain peaks or something and dox me.
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Internet Explorer posted:That's a beautiful yard. Happy solstice and cheers to you. Whatever you say, Christopher
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Solstice today but it's been raining/cloudy for the last 2 months here and I've forgotten what the sun looks like. Supposed to warm up this weekend which is when the flooding starts, combo of rain and freshet  Internet Explorer posted:That's a beautiful yard. Happy solstice and cheers to you. Just post it when jaegerx is asleep
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Internet Explorer posted:oh poo poo  this is how to vacation goons. Behind those trees are thousands of hogs I’m going to kill tomorrow. They are an invasive species in Texas and I’m allowed to as long as the meat goes to a food bank.
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Please tell me you’re going helicopter hog shootin
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jaegerx posted:
You are so loving American it makes me cry (tears of happiness)
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No he’s got 5k some odd acres in west Texas. We just go out at night and pop a few.
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CLAM DOWN posted:You are so loving American it makes me cry (tears of happiness) I’m a Texan thanks. English second. Irish 3rd.
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jaegerx posted:I’m a Texan thanks. English second. Irish 3rd. Redneck through and through on multiple continents
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CLAM DOWN posted:Redneck through and through on multiple continents I prefer white trash.
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