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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I don't see any way to read this other than either "mothers shouldn't value their kids if they're boring, blonde, and white" or "I don't value kid lives if they're boring, blonde, and white" and either way....yuck. I hope I'm wrong. I think another way to read the post in question is this movie spent absolutely no effort or time giving the children characters personalities despite those characters be at the absolute emotional center of the movie. Those kids are hardly more than cardboard cut outs.
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After I finish moving I’m gonna watch all the hobbits and then all the lotrs extendeds in a row
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Yeah it's understandable why Wanda would care about them, less clear why the audience would.
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A MIRACLE posted:After I finish moving I’m gonna watch all the hobbits and then all the lotrs extendeds in a row No don't, you'll die!
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A MIRACLE posted:After I finish moving I’m gonna watch all the hobbits and then all the lotrs extendeds in a row If you're into self punishment you could just read the books again
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Jun 23, 2022 17:09
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A MIRACLE posted:Also the hobbit sequels were legit. Especially the extended versions I didn't really care for the theatrical versions. I thought that the extended editions, like with LOTR, made them better movies. But then I saw a fan edit where they cut out all material that wasn't directly in The Hobbit, and edited it down into one movie, and thought it was the best version, as much as I loved seeing what Gandalf was up to when he left the party. The third act (or film) is still a little rough though because Peter Jackson openly admitted that he filmed it without a script, and just shot a bunch of random action scenes together.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I don't see any way to read this other than either "mothers shouldn't value their kids if they're boring, blonde, and white" or "I don't value kid lives if they're boring, blonde, and white" and either way....yuck. I hope I'm wrong. lmao what
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I don't see any way to read this other than either "mothers shouldn't value their kids if they're boring, blonde, and white" or "I don't value kid lives if they're boring, blonde, and white" and either way....yuck. I hope I'm wrong. i think they're making a joke about how her kids are total non-entities. i sure don't even remember their names or anything about them (i didn't watch wandavision)
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I think another way to read the post in question is this movie spent absolutely no effort or time giving the children characters personalities despite those characters be at the absolute emotional center of the movie. Those kids are hardly more than cardboard cut outs. yes, it's this
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I dunno guys, I guess I'm not in a place where a movie specifically has to (virtually) reach across the aisle and say "you shouldn't want these kids to die because they're funny/interesting/quirky/whatever". I guess though that these films are consumable products with an air of unreality, so it's like "look I don't care who these people are supposed to be, I want to see the quips and the explosions." And those kids definitely don't deliver on that angle, yeah.
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Was the kids singing about ice cream supposed to endear them to me? Because it didn't at all and I even have two boys of similar age
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My precious children are named Macguffin 1 and Macguffin 2
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Nihonniboku posted:I don't read comics, but I've been super into the MCU. I went to see this in the theater with a couple of friends, and my friend who reads the comics was super ecstatic about it. My other friend and I though were super lukewarm on the movie, and thought it was a lower middle tier MCU movie. For all the crazy action, very little in the movie actually happened plot wise, and it only advanced the main MCU plot in the 30 second mid credits sequence. I haven't watched it since the theater but when I saw it there I swear there was a little red "puff" of her magic in the corner right before the temple collapsed, I assumed it was her teleporting away or whatever
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Medullah posted:I haven't watched it since the theater but when I saw it there I swear there was a little red "puff" of her magic in the corner right before the temple collapsed, I assumed it was her teleporting away or whatever I saw that too, and that was my thought.
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precision posted:i think they're making a joke about how her kids are total non-entities. i sure don't even remember their names or anything about them (i didn't watch wandavision) They were basically props in the tv show
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Medullah posted:I haven't watched it since the theater but when I saw it there I swear there was a little red "puff" of her magic in the corner right before the temple collapsed, I assumed it was her teleporting away or whatever There is but it's ambiguous whether it's like the last burst of light when you snuff out a candle or something else. But it doesn't matter anyway because there are infinite other Wanda's out there, if this one is dead you can just hop to another universe and grab another.
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Papercut posted:But it doesn't matter anyway because there are infinite other Wanda's out there, if this one is dead you can just hop to another universe and grab another. People keep saying this but the appeal of the MCU is that people have invested years into the story and characters. I don't see people just rolling with it if they start Beerfesting characters.
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A MIRACLE posted:They were basically props in the tv show One thing that genuinely bothered me in WandaVision was when the illusion was shattered and her fake reality is collapsing, she puts her boys to bed and then walks away, accepting that they will be destroyed out of her sight. It was so they could soften the impact of their "death"/dissolution, but it really rang false to me. No parent is going to walk in the next room and let their drat kids die in solitude. Very false moment but Actually Being Present For The Kid Death would be a truly dramatic scene and we can't have that.
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live with fruit posted:People keep saying this but the appeal of the MCU is that people have invested years into the story and characters. I don't see people just rolling with it if they start Beerfesting characters. I'm not sure I agree, or at least not sure Disney agrees, based on the way Christine was used in this movie
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Papercut posted:I'm not sure I agree, or at least not sure Disney agrees, based on the way Christine was used in this movie Nobody cares about Christine.
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Papercut posted:Those kids are literally a parody of like 80s cereal commercials if I remember the Wanda tv show correctly? Also lol at megaman bein like "prejudice against whites maybe??? Oh NOOOO" But yeah i just meant they felt like non-entities out of a juice commercial or some poo poo and I guess they...literally were.
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A MIRACLE posted:Also the hobbit sequels were legit. Especially the extended versions
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Even the idea that they were fake constructs from half remembered bad TV doesn't track because these kids did exist as real live people in different universes.Papercut posted:Was the kids singing about ice cream supposed to endear them to me? Because it didn't at all and I even have two boys of similar age Very same. It was like they tossed "Add kids character development scene here" in the original script but then let an algorithm write what was eventually added.
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I think the truly disheartening thing was how little "Raimi" it felt like really came across. I guess it's naive to have expected a soul of any kind, but I mean, Taiki and Gunn kiiiinda come across with their contributions to the boring 3 hour long punchman genre. I really wish Raimi's latest film in nearly a decade had been, well, actually a Sam Raimi movie. Seems like a waste.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I think the truly disheartening thing was how little "Raimi" it felt like really came across. I guess it's naive to have expected a soul of any kind, but I mean, Taiki and Gunn kiiiinda come across with their contributions to the boring 3 hour long punchman genre. Raimi hasn't made a Raimi film in 13 years. That guy is probably gone.
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live with fruit posted:Raimi hasn't made a Raimi film in 13 years. That guy is probably gone.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Well I should mention I never saw his Oz movie. Hasnt he been working on that Evil Dead show? I heard that was good. I did finally watch Drag Me to Hell (on like, Hulu I think) and that was fun and recognizably Raimi, so I guess I'm fine with that sorta kinda bein his last film. Ash vs Evil Dead got cancelled but yes he was working on it and it was good, yes.
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The only reason to ever watch his Oz movie is so you can then listen to the recent Blank Check podcast episode about it. It is an astonishingly bad film.
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regulargonzalez posted:The only reason to ever watch his Oz movie is so you can then listen to the recent Blank Check podcast episode about it. It is an astonishingly bad film. A nine year break after Oz makes sense.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Also lol at megaman bein like "prejudice against whites maybe??? Oh NOOOO" Not caring about a character doesn't make you prejudiced against them, and you had a couple of other descriptors too. It was more like "these kids are soooo boring...why should anyone care about them?" and it's like well the audience doesn't have to, it's certainly a choice, but their mother probably should. That's just basic characterization.
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A MIRACLE posted:Also the hobbit sequels were legit. Especially the extended versions I only saw the first one. That was in theatres and the whole time I was thinking "why does the frame rate look like rear end?"
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I dunno guys, I guess I'm not in a place where a movie specifically has to (virtually) reach across the aisle and say "you shouldn't want these kids to die because they're funny/interesting/quirky/whatever". I guess though that these films are consumable products with an air of unreality, so it's like "look I don't care who these people are supposed to be, I want to see the quips and the explosions." And those kids definitely don't deliver on that angle, yeah. have you met kids? frankly, more of them should be murdered
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Field Mousepad posted:DC stuff is more grounded in reality, as much as comic book stuff can be. Marvel is just over the top ridiculous, you know like most comic books. I'm not super familiar with Marvel comics so maybe that's what the fans want. I just think they could've relied less on cg as huge set pieces
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CelticPredator posted:Disgusting For some reason I heard this in Creedy's voice from V For Vendetta.
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The kids are annoying MacGuffins, which makes Wanda come off like a hysterical woman.
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Macrame_God posted:I only saw the first one. That was in theatres and the whole time I was thinking "why does the frame rate look like rear end?" I wonder if James Cameron will try to make another push for higher movie frame rates to catch on with Avatar 2. Logically it does make sense, but we’re so conditioned to “24 fps = movie” I wonder if anybody over a certain age could ever get used to it.
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there was a ton of Raimi cinematography in the movie but none of the charm
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:For some reason I heard this in Creedy's voice from V For Vendetta. 
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I like the first few episodes of The Bear on Hulu. How do I find a restaurant like this?
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