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Bonzo posted:Kentucky is quiet but slowly catching up. I mean , does Florida have its own Noah's Ark and Creation Museum? https://creationmuseum.org/ Outside Dallas we have http://www.creationevidence.org/ which is the fun mashup of all those plus dinosaur tracks.
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So for those of you who haven’t been following along (how dare you, by the way?!?), I’m the goon bartender trying to break into IT. Got my Sec+ back in Feb and my Net+ this afternoon. Question is: what does the thread think is next? End goal is almost certainly Cloud Security, but seeing as how I still don’t work in the industry, I don’t want to get pinned down to a long term goal. Right now I’m thinking AWS CCP and AZ 900 for next steps that will serve me well. Or would Cloud+ be better? I don’t want to get the trifecta and pick up A+ mostly cause I don’t want to spend 700 bux on it. Might study for Linux+ even if I don’t take the exam just to keep up/improve my Linux chops. I’ve been playing with AD in a virtual lab, but I don’t know if there’s a good low-level cert that I should look at there. Any advice is appreciated, but before some gatekeeping dickhead yells at me for “stacking up worthless certs with no experience,” I just want to point out that I’m in a position right now where I have lots of time to study and I enjoy it, so while the end goal is to get out of the bar before I die of Covid, I’m also studying for studying sake. (If that comes off as harsh, I’ve interacted with a couple of gatekeeping dickheads IRL lately and I didn’t enjoy it).
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navyjack posted:Cert chat Congrats on passing those certs! My two cents based on what you've described: Above all else, try and get hired on somewhere doing IT work. There is no replacement for experience and the social networking that comes from being in a job. That said, my two cents would be to look at the AZ-900 to get exposed to cloud concepts. Microsoft Learn has great resources for everything you need to pass that exam. It mostly centers around surface level terminology and concepts, and you might be able to pass it after a week of studying. Same goes for the AWS CCP. I'm in the same boat as you in that I use the effort of studying for certs as a way of being exposed to tech that I don't have access to at work, in the hopes of opening more doors in the future.
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If you are interested in the AZ-900, there is currently an offer to get free training and a free test voucher from Microsoft for that cloud exam.FCKGW posted:Crossposting from the cert thread is anyone is looking to explore Azure: I did this last year; you sit through two 2.5-hour webinar sessions, then you get a voucher to take the AZ-900 test on MS's dime. Plus you can take all the interactive online training from MS for free.
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FMguru posted:If you are interested in the AZ-900, there is currently an offer to get free training and a free test voucher from Microsoft for that cloud exam. Oh nice!
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it annoys me to no end that I can't browse pages of backup log/reports in Barracuda because the loving chat button is in the way. edit: yeah there are ways around it by using ublock or editing the page source, but come the gently caress on Barracuda. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jun 29, 2022 |
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navyjack posted:So for those of you who haven’t been following along (how dare you, by the way?!?), I’m the goon bartender trying to break into IT. Got my Sec+ back in Feb and my Net+ this afternoon. Question is: what does the thread think is next? End goal is almost certainly Cloud Security, but seeing as how I still don’t work in the industry, I don’t want to get pinned down to a long term goal. I'm a former waiter who now works in a SOC. In addition to the stuff mentioned above, I gotta be honest: If you don't have a degree, you might want to consider it if you have the time. I had the Security+ and basically no experience. Nobody was responding to my applications for help desk roles except places in like Florida that wanted me in office for $10 an hour. It was so frustrating spending all that time sending out applications that I decided to just go for a bachelor's degree at WGU. It only took like 9 months because I no-lifed it and got a job offer within a couple weeks of graduating. Compare that with months of job hunting with no success. I'm not saying it's impossible to get lucky with just the fundamentals, but it's just so much easier when you have the piece of paper. WGU pays for a bunch of certs too, so if you can finish it in one or two terms, it's also ridiculously cost efficient. I probably also skipped help desk going this route?
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navyjack posted:So for those of you who haven’t been following along (how dare you, by the way?!?), I’m the goon bartender trying to break into IT. Got my Sec+ back in Feb and my Net+ this afternoon. Question is: what does the thread think is next? End goal is almost certainly Cloud Security, but seeing as how I still don’t work in the industry, I don’t want to get pinned down to a long term goal. People will poo poo on certs for both invalid and valid reasons, but you're learning and that's the most important part. If you haven't already, start a simple blog where you talk about what you learned. Just a simple, "this is how I deployed a VPC when studying for my exam" type post. A GIthub repository isn't a bad idea. Any kind of hobby coding project or homelab stuff you can speak in detail about. Just something to show your work goes a long way in the interview process. Continuing to do this even after you get hired will guarantee you move up (to a point) every 6-18 months.
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TastyLemonDrops posted:I'm a former waiter who now works in a SOC. In addition to the stuff mentioned above, I gotta be honest: If you don't have a degree, you might want to consider it if you have the time. I had the Security+ and basically no experience. Nobody was responding to my applications for help desk roles except places in like Florida that wanted me in office for $10 an hour. It was so frustrating spending all that time sending out applications that I decided to just go for a bachelor's degree at WGU. It only took like 9 months because I no-lifed it and got a job offer within a couple weeks of graduating. Compare that with months of job hunting with no success. I'm not saying it's impossible to get lucky with just the fundamentals, but it's just so much easier when you have the piece of paper. WGU pays for a bunch of certs too, so if you can finish it in one or two terms, it's also ridiculously cost efficient. I probably also skipped help desk going this route? This happened to me post-Army and I majored in marketing. I hate school but I don’t regret my degree it definitely had a positive affect on my application response rates. Of course this is IT and I know lots of very successful people with no degrees or non traditional educational paths so 
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TastyLemonDrops posted:I'm a former waiter who now works in a SOC. In addition to the stuff mentioned above, I gotta be honest: If you don't have a degree, you might want to consider it if you have the time. I had the Security+ and basically no experience. Nobody was responding to my applications for help desk roles except places in like Florida that wanted me in office for $10 an hour. It was so frustrating spending all that time sending out applications that I decided to just go for a bachelor's degree at WGU. It only took like 9 months because I no-lifed it and got a job offer within a couple weeks of graduating. Compare that with months of job hunting with no success. I'm not saying it's impossible to get lucky with just the fundamentals, but it's just so much easier when you have the piece of paper. WGU pays for a bunch of certs too, so if you can finish it in one or two terms, it's also ridiculously cost efficient. I probably also skipped help desk going this route? I have a bachelors, so that’s not what’s holding me back (I looked at WGU for some continuing education and may do something with them). Bonzo posted:People will poo poo on certs for both invalid and valid reasons, but you're learning and that's the most important part. If you haven't already, start a simple blog where you talk about what you learned. Just a simple, "this is how I deployed a VPC when studying for my exam" type post. A GIthub repository isn't a bad idea. Any kind of hobby coding project or homelab stuff you can speak in detail about. Just something to show your work goes a long way in the interview process. Continuing to do this even after you get hired will guarantee you move up (to a point) every 6-18 months. Yeah, I’ve done some small stuff and want to do more. I suppose I should get organized and do things more systematically re: documentation
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i am a moron posted:This happened to me post-Army and I majored in marketing. I hate school but I don’t regret my degree it definitely had a positive affect on my application response rates. I have training in clinical psychology. It is amazing how similar conference calls are to group therapy.
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navyjack posted:
I’d focus on 1 cloud to start with altough doing AWS/Azure entry level certs won’t hurt. The AWS CCP one is really high level and more of an intro for sales people though. AZ-900 was the same if I recall correctly. If Cloud is your endgoal I’d 100% follow up the entry level cert with AWS Solution Architect - Associate or whatever the Azure equivalent is. While studying for that, building something you can throw in a public git repo is worth showing during interviews. If you have no idea what to do, have a look at this: https://cloudresumechallenge.dev/
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LochNessMonster posted:I’d focus on 1 cloud to start with altough doing AWS/Azure entry level certs won’t hurt. The AWS CCP one is really high level and more of an intro for sales people though. AZ-900 was the same if I recall correctly. I see your cloud resume and raise you https://learntocloud.guide/#/
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Thank you both for those links.
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Related to the topic at hand... For those of you that do SRE work, what's your typical day to day like?
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LochNessMonster posted:AZ-900 was the same if I recall correctly. All of the azure 900 level certs are a intro to <topic> type deal. Worth doing if you are vaguely interested in <topic> because they arent difficult and show you have a base understanding of the concepts, plus you can work out if you do actually enjoy <topic>
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Zil posted:Thank you both for those links. Agree!
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Hughmoris posted:Related to the topic at hand... For those of you that do SRE work, what's your typical day to day like? Some of the stuff that an SRE might do on a typical day:
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cheque_some posted:Some of the stuff that an SRE might do on a typical day: This is basically my life, with a little bit less “non-infra system design” than I might like and a lot more k8s janitor-ing. I also do a lot of security and IAM work. Add in a dash of networking, database management, CI/CD, Linux admin-ing, secrets management and you’ve got a bit of everything. In my previous role which was literally called SRE there was more incident management and monitoring work, which I’m less involved with at $newJob. I spent today writing gitlab automation, creating documentation for non-technical analysts who need to query CloudSQL DBs and don’t understand how to use an auth proxy, helping our data science team migrate GCP Composer and Airflow versions by building new environments for them, sorting through a morass of routing rules, peered VPCs and network configs to figure out whether I needed to implement NAT for a new service, and mentoring a junior on how to change a nodeJS API server from an awful 2yr old pet VM to a something we can throw away and stick in an autoscaling group with packer (containerizing it and orchestrating is the next step up from there). I was also oncall and handled some items related to AKS auto-upgrade policy, a dying pet VM (that’s going away in 4 weeks with a beautiful ephemeral k8s setup replacing it!), and a failing Argo workflow job that ended up being a vendor problem. Tomorrow I have 6 hours of meetings covering everything from meeting our new incident manager, to doing a presentation on how to use terraform and GCP IAM policy, to sprint planning, to a book club meeting for “Designing Data Intensive Applications” that I’m going to probably skip so I can eat lunch. I will probably not get much work done outside of meetings and oncall interrupts. Yesterday I was writing Python code to query GCP and AWS APIs across a few hundred projects and a half dozen AWS accounts to make sure we didn’t have any services that used a manually managed, non-rotating certificate that was expiring. I had a big list of domains and IPs that could possibly use it, but rather than manually scan through pages of VMs and load balancers and k8s services I just wrote a quick program to do it for me. There’s a rough continuum I find between cloud infrastructure - devops - sre. The more you go right ———> along that spectrum, the closer you are to the software, services, and developers. SREs in particular are strongly associated with monitoring, SLIs, and measuring results with an eye towards customer impact. But there is a ton of overlap no matter the title because all of those roles are fundamentally about “making developer’s lives easier and software better”. The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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The Fool posted:I see your cloud resume and raise you https://learntocloud.guide/#/ Hadn’t come across that one yet. It looks really well structured and comprehensive. Will add it to my bookmarks and recommendations, thanks for sharing!
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The Fool posted:I see your cloud resume and raise you https://learntocloud.guide/#/ This is fantastic and I’m going to recommend it to this kid I’m mentoring. Definitely better than the resume challenge.
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The Fool posted:I see your cloud resume and raise you https://learntocloud.guide/#/ thank you for this, hopefully i can use this to avoid the eternal helpdesk before even starting on helpdesk
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The Iron Rose posted:This is basically my life, with a little bit less “non-infra system design” than I might like and a lot more k8s janitor-ing. I also do a lot of security and IAM work. Add in a dash of networking, database management, CI/CD, Linux admin-ing, secrets management and you’ve got a bit of everything. In my previous role which was literally called SRE there was more incident management and monitoring work, which I’m less involved with at $newJob. I do virtually all of this and have never, will never, call myself an SRE because titles don’t matter imo Edit: and sorry that wasn’t directed at you Iron Rose, just for Hugh’s info. Titles can be very fungible ime i am a moron fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Sounds like my job descriptions over the past few years as well. Titles have been IT Specialist, DevOps Engineer, Cloud Engineer and Platform Engineer.
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I had someone on my team replace expanded batteries in laptops yesterday. My job is complete.
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I'll offer an alternative method into getting into the field as someone who works in cloud security. Just get any IT job! Especially just starting out in IT as a second career. I've interviewed a ton of people who have a few entry level certs and a degree that I would barely trust to reset user passwords, let alone triage SIEM alerts. All of the best security engineers I have ever worked with got their start in ops, or development work first, then pivoted to security. Not saying you cant just dive straight in, but getting any sort of IT experience, even if its just a year of helpdesk would help in my opinion.
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Anyone have recommendations for some resources to learn about user authentication best practices and policies? CIO came to my desk and said “everything about how we do accounts is hosed, can you fix it?” He’s not wrong, we’ve got a ton of antiquated accounts, barely any procedures for onboarding and terminations, a totally hosed group policy structure, etc. no idea where to start though
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App13 posted:Anyone have recommendations for some resources to learn about user authentication best practices and policies? Start by writing down everything you can about how things work now, and then write down how you want them to be.
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App13 posted:Anyone have recommendations for some resources to learn about user authentication best practices and policies? Do your absolute best to make this someone else’s problem before you spend any time on it. This rabbit hole goes insanely deep, and depending on the size of the company could require a couple dedicated engineers to do correctly.
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As a "DevOps Engineer" on the "SRE" team I mostly bitch about the lack of direction for the team and ask to get transferred to a different team.
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i am a moron posted:I do virtually all of this and have never, will never, call myself an SRE because titles don’t matter imo Titles matter to a point. They matter for political reasons, and they matter for “do I (person) have to listen to (other person)”. Titles are how we determine that, unfortunately. I get a hell of a lot more respect inside and outside work with “engineer” (lol) or “senior” (kinda lol) in there than I ever did doing helpdesk, or even in more senior roles in IT. They matter a lot when it comes time to finding a new job or putting together a promotion package and how much you get paid as a result! i agree the difference between sre/devops/foo/bar doesn’t really matter *in terms of the day to day tech* because it’s largely people trying to imitate Google’s idiosyncrasies without understanding what’s meaningful and what isn’t for their organization. But it can matter more when you’re managing organizational politics or dealing with people in general, and that’s usually more critical anyways. The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Yep definitely agree. I meant for more day to day - been hiring/recruiting/interviewing cloud people for a while and they all need to do some level of what you described. But their title is gonna be consultant. And you called that out too so I’m not really sure what my point was entirely anymore, other than probably ‘all the stuff Iron Rose said is good regardless of title’. SRE/DevOps/Staff Platform engineer/whatever else people call this stuff nowadays
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cheque_some posted:SRE Chat The Iron Rose posted:SRE Chat This is very helpful, thanks!
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What is it with all HR software just being terrible to use. I'm trying to update some references on an application that's open until Monday, but I had to upload a completely new copy of my reference sheet. Evidently you can't edit applications at all, you have to instead withdraw and reapply. All to update the title and phone number of a reference I'm using.
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I mean, I could make a typo and do that for a subnet of any size
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:it annoys me to no end that I can't browse pages of backup log/reports in Barracuda because the loving chat button is in the way. This is my new favorite UX fail of recent times. GnarlyCharlie4u posted:so... how exactly does one fill up an entire /24 with DHCP reservations 'accidentally'? Had an entire /24 block get crowded in our Azure instance because of a slight mistake in a workflow. Automation is a hell of a drug.
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