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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Akane-banashi: Hell yeah, let's get this poo poo going!!!!!!! Nice to see more of the other rival in this tournament, too. Akane is a dork. Going to assume the guy excites Issho enough for him to drop the facade and verbally lay into him. It's interesting because Karashi seems to think Issho is a traditionalist, and the first chapter does seem to give you that impression (Akane's dad delivered a unique take on an act and removed one of its main attractions to go all-in on his strengths, but Issho claimed that it "wasn't rakugo" and expelled him and the other promotion exam takers). But when we see Issho in the present, talking to the interviewer, he actually seems to be the opposite, and more concerned about how to modify rakugo to be more enticing to the modern audience so it can compete with more modern venues of entertainment. Honestly, the mystery of Issho is one of the most interesting things about the series to me. Yeah, I like the ambiguity/nuance surrounding Issho. The father in PPPPPP feels like a rehash of Azami from Food Wars; Issho doesn't, despite being an authority figure in his artistic field with high standards who's kind of an rear end in a top hat. This is not just because he isn't an abusive parent; it's also important that Akani-banashi acknowledges that 1) rakugo, while important to the main character, is a fairly niche artform, and thus Issho isn't some kind of threat to human civilization, and 2) aesthetic judgement is more complicated than "everyone has basically the same aesthetic views, but some people are more snobbish about them".
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Issho's relationship with Shiguma is also pretty interesting, too. Issho himself doesn't seem to care much for Shiguma; he's not happy with Shiguma's presence in Chapter 1, and one of the judges tells the other not to mention Shiguma in Issho's presence in the most recent chapter. Yet, Shiguma himself doesn't seem to hate Issho, even after Issho expelled his own pupil (Akane's dad), and seems fairly wistful and nostalgic when he thinks about Issho in Chapter 13.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1542034797576433664?t=eVcK8oISBKnSTMN5AQvNMQ&s=19 Come on, he deserves another chance. He's only killed 4 series so far.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1542034797576433664?t=eVcK8oISBKnSTMN5AQvNMQ&s=19 This is very funny after the recent discussion of him
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I'm reading Show-ha Shoten and think it's pretty good. They do a good job of converting the comedy routines to a manga and the main characters are very likeable. edit: Caught up (only 9 chapters so far) and I'll be surprised if this is cancelled early. It just has the feel of something that will last. Very good pacing, and more importantly the comedy routines they do are actually funny (and it does a very good job of explaining the various challenges of doing effective comedy). A lot of "characters doing performing arts" manga rely on just telling the reader how good people are. Music manga is the worst about this (though it's not like the authors have any choice). Edit: Also looking forward to the Show-Ha Shoten / Dandadan crossover where it is revealed that Shijima is the parallel universe version of Takakura (seriously they look and act like the exact same guy) Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Jun 29, 2022 |
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I love the Elusive Samurai's Heian Metal Gear so much lol
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Ytlaya posted:I'm reading Show-ha Shoten and think it's pretty good. They do a good job of converting the comedy routines to a manga and the main characters are very likeable. Yep, Show-Ha Shoten is just very enjoyable. Especially in the earlier chapters it explained the theories behind comedy in fantastic detail and metaphors. The in story jokes lately (for me) have been miss quite a lot, but the more meta humor has still been on point. The author is making good use of it's monthly schedule while still making it feel like we're having actual progress.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Ruri Dragon: Ruri continuing to play the Switch as her mom drags her out of bed and the reveal that she never fuckin' went to school after her declaration in the previous chapter is so mood and realistic. Ruri continues to be super cute and I'm assuming there's gonna be at least one more demihuman in the class. Such a nice series. Yeah, my immediate reaction was "Hey, teach, you a kappa under that hair, or something?"
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Darth TNT posted:Yep, Show-Ha Shoten is just very enjoyable. Especially in the earlier chapters it explained the theories behind comedy in fantastic detail and metaphors. The in story jokes lately (for me) have been miss quite a lot, but the more meta humor has still been on point. The more recent story jokes (when they go from sketch comedy to manzai) kind of require having a feel for how manzai comedy works and translating the actions of the characters to what it'd look like as an actual manzai performance. It's impressive that the comic actually directly shows the various skits instead of just giving a vague description of the performance and showing audience reactions.
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Darth TNT posted:Come on, he deserves another chance. He's only killed 4 series so far. Agravity Boys is in some ways the most notable entry there, since it's the one that went the longest (excluding MHA) and the one he had the least to do with... other than killing it.
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Brought To You By posted:So a new series launched called Make the Exorcist Fall in Love and whoo boy is the first chapter something. Tried reading this and it was incredibly offputting. The gore is bad enough (and doesn't really add anything to the series), but the part where the mentor priest tells the MC that all you need to fill up your life is love is such a toxic message, especially when you remember that the MC is an abused kid who was trained to repress all emotions. And, uh, how old is the protagonist again? Because in the flash-forward, he looks like he might be 12-14, while the female lead's 18, which is, uh... Shinji2015 posted:Witch Watch - I like the teacher/student chapters, but they feel so disconnected from the rest of the series that it might as well be its own manga.  It feels like the author wanted to write a manga like Bakuman but didn't have enough material to make it into a full series, so now they just jammed it into their current work. Witch Watch is like Agravity Boys in that it lost interest in the plot they set up so now it's just been floundering around. Darth TNT posted:Also remember the dangerous dust storm that took out Albert and was going to destroy the space station? If yes, you have a better memory than the author. I don't think they even told the ISS folks to get to safety or any token show of concern.  chiasaur11 posted:Agravity Boys is in some ways the most notable entry there, since it's the one that went the longest (excluding MHA) and the one he had the least to do with... other than killing it. I'm curious when Taguchi took over that series. Was it before or after Agravity Boys started doing those lovely gender jokes? Those were what truly soured me on that series.
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amigolupus posted:I'm curious when Taguchi took over that series. Was it before or after Agravity Boys started doing those lovely gender jokes? Those were what truly soured me on that series. Wasn't that like... chapter 2?
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ImpAtom posted:Wasn't that like... chapter 2? Huh, guess I either forgot about those details or missed them in the middle of the other jokes. But, I was thinking more about the Agravity Girls part where things got really weird.
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amigolupus posted:Tried reading this and it was incredibly offputting. The gore is bad enough (and doesn't really add anything to the series), but the part where the mentor priest tells the MC that all you need to fill up your life is love is such a toxic message, especially when you remember that the MC is an abused kid who was trained to repress all emotions. Someone speculated that his master might have been Satan in disguise, which would explain that (since he wants to make the MC love Lilith later). So in that case the "guidance" wouldn't exactly be framed as good/wise. vvv Yeah I don't necessarily agree with that read, just that there's a plausible explanation for it Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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It'd be fine if the master told the MC that he should form loving relationships with others, but he told the kid to fall in love with someone. I get that it was supposed to be inspirational and the theme of the series, but telling a suicidal kid that he'll find happiness and stop feeling like poo poo if he falls in love just rubs me the wrong way. Poor kid needs therapy and a support group, not romance.
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amigolupus posted:And, uh, how old is the protagonist again? Because in the flash-forward, he looks like he might be 12-14, while the female lead's 18, which is, uh... That being said I had a chuckle at this panel because again, since the story is running full steam ahead there isn't any real room for normal seduction with this chick. 
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Viz put up the original Saint Seiya manga and I'm reading it for the first time. I gotta admit it's... not very engaging. Everything seems to go like this: "We must protect the prince-" "Oh no! The Princess has been kidnapped. Time to race against time to rescue her before she dies." "Not so fast! I am more powerful than a mere Bronze! You can't hurt me!" "Gasp! My punches don't work" "But have you considered... PUNCHING HARDER?!" "HOW CAN THIS BE? His punch punched me!" "*A scene of someone's head flying off with a blood trail behind it, turns out a page later it was a dream/fake/he was hiding his head in his chest despite us seeing the stream of blood and the head in the helmet." *replace punches with Ice/Chain/Dragon Punch/Gouging Your Eyes Out by preference.* Perhaps it picks up but so far it feels like the same three scenes repeated with slight changes. I usually don't mind older stuff so I'm surprised how dull I find it.
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Justin_Brett posted:You need to really be into absurd power scaling and 80s cheese to get enjoyment out of the original, I found. I did for a while watching the anime, but dropped off just before the big boss rush arc. I could see it being a lot more engaging in anime form since in the manga they basically just jump right to the stock footage without any in-between. Electric Phantasm posted:I'm still surprised Saint Seiya is some sort of pro wrestling setup and not some monster of the week like the character design led me to believe. Nah, it's monster of the week. The pro-wrestling thing doesn't even last the whole first arc.
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ImpAtom posted:I could see it being a lot more engaging in anime form since in the manga they basically just jump right to the stock footage without any in-between. yeah the tournament straight up gets abandoned halfway
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ImpAtom posted:Viz put up the original Saint Seiya manga and I'm reading it for the first time. I gotta admit it's... not very engaging. Everything seems to go like this: Have you tried being latino
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ImpAtom posted:Nah, it's monster of the week. The pro-wrestling thing doesn't even last the whole first arc. Idk much about pro wrestling but having the childhood friend of the main crew go “guys I’m evil now after my training on HELL QUEEN ISLAND also I brought my crew of black ranger Saints who all have evil versions of your power” is exactly my understanding of how unabashedly dramatic/absurd wrestling tends to get through a Shonen anime filter. Personally I found it (the anime specifically, but I started reading the manga since I never finished the Netflix run) to be engaging enough because it has no chill whatsoever and just rapidly goes between arcs, but also it seems like something you read/watch at this point because it’s a part of history instead of it holding up like, say, the Sailor Moon anime or DBZ. But if you’re not enjoying it they also put Kaguya-sama: Love is War on the backlog recently, which is a good excuse to read/reread most of it. 
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Last Celebration posted:Idk much about pro wrestling but having the childhood friend of the main crew go “guys I’m evil now after my training on HELL QUEEN ISLAND also I brought my crew of black ranger Saints who all have evil versions of your power” is exactly my understanding of how unabashedly dramatic/absurd wrestling tends to get through a Shonen anime filter. I figure I should at least give it a shot but yeah I'll probably move onto something else.
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Justin_Brett posted:You need to really be into absurd power scaling and 80s cheese to get enjoyment out of the original, I found. I did for a while watching the anime, but dropped off just before the big boss rush arc. Well the original opening is a banger at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAruaQmSxpo RatHat fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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Pegasus Fantasy is a top 100 anime OP for sure, maybe even top fifty.
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ImpAtom posted:Viz put up the original Saint Seiya manga and I'm reading it for the first time. I gotta admit it's... not very engaging. Everything seems to go like this: I’m a couple dozen chapters into it, and I’m still engaged enough to keep reading, but you’re not really wrong. It reminds me a fair amount of Dragon Ball and especially early JoJo, but it has a lot of the weaknesses of both without much of the strengths of either. The art style is mostly a JoJo-style hyper-detailed one except the characters have simplified cartoony faces. There’s all this really dark backstory, but it’s combined with Dragon Ball-style contrived consequence-erasing in the present (another comparison comes to mind here; this is one of the things I don’t really like about One Piece, although it feels more extreme here). The villains are always too conveniently arrogant/honorable/distrustful of each other to properly team up against the heroes. Actually, the constant fake-outs in fight scenes you mention are another flaw that reminds me of another series, in this case Naruto (it was just a genjutsu/metaphor for killing intent/shadow clone/log!), but again, it’s worse here because Naruto had more of a set of rules for that sort of thing (except for the log thing), and rarely made a fake-out the main centerpiece of the fight the way Saint Seiya often does. Another comparison: using the same structures for fight scenes too often was perhaps Bleach’s biggest flaw. And now we come to something notoriously present in a lot of shonen manga: easy forgiveness. I don’t really mind in the case of Ikki, perhaps because I couldn’t take his hammy brand of villainy that seriously anyway; I can basically write his behavior off as temporary insanity and move on. But the handling of Sienna is really gross. She manipulated the protagonists into risking their lives for her own and Nobu’s whims more or less continuously since they were 8 years old or so, and outright treated them like slaves for a couple of years before that. And now it looks like they’re going to end up dedicating the rest of their lives to protecting her. It really makes me appreciate Chainsaw Man taking the bold stance that people who behave like that are in fact bad, even if they happen to be attractive women. And on top of all this, it has this rather exhausting style of pacing, where the plot never really gives the protagonists or the reader the chance to take a breath. To be fair, I guess the writer might have been worried that breather chapters in a monthly series risk the audience losing interest. At least, I assume it was a monthly based on the chapter lengths; maybe it was a weekly series and the chapters were retroactively combined at a rate of 3 to 1 for the volumes? That would also partly explain the pacing issues, I guess. Now I’ve almost talked myself out of wanting to keep reading after all. Can someone please assure me that it improves?
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Silver2195 posted:I’m a couple dozen chapters into it, and I’m still engaged enough to keep reading, but you’re not really wrong. It reminds me a fair amount of Dragon Ball and especially early JoJo, but it has a lot of the weaknesses of both without much of the strengths of either. The art style is mostly a JoJo-style hyper-detailed one except the characters have simplified cartoony faces. There’s all this really dark backstory, but it’s combined with Dragon Ball-style contrived consequence-erasing in the present (another comparison comes to mind here; this is one of the things I don’t really like about One Piece, although it feels more extreme here). The villains are always too conveniently arrogant/honorable/distrustful of each other to properly team up against the heroes. I watched a lot of the anime before they took it off Netflix and it doesn’t really “improve”, but imho one of the only charming parts of the series besides how unabashedly concentrated shonen it is that it has no idea what the gently caress “pacing” is so maybe you should get off Kurumada’s Wild Ride while the getting’s good? Edit: Pierson posted:I'm surprised it's only 114 chapters, from how much it gets talked up I assumed it was way longer. I guess the anime was where the real fandom was? It’s “only” 113 because each chapter’s like 35 pages, so closer to a respectable 228 if you compare it to a proper weekly series. Last Celebration fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jul 3, 2022 |
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