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West Virginia vs EPA out, 6-3 decision. Yuck edit: EPA can't regulate carbon Dioxide. Also as I read it, it seems that Chevron deference is dead too. I'm not a lawyer so I might be wrong on that part. edit2: More i read it, the more it looks like they gave Chevron a good punch in the guts, but they didn't pull a knife and rip the guts out. edit3: Wrong fuckin' thread! Cimber fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Shageletic posted:Chevron wasn't specified. It's a narrow reading of a policy that was actually not in effect. It's bad but could have been worse I would say Dems support those things explicitly but not implicitly or functionally, but yeah
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Randalor posted:It's a small detail of a small part of the overall story that she was told second-hand that they can I also never get why the MAGA's never put together that it's always, ALWAYS, the other people who are liars and losers but never the person at the center of it all. So may people in his orbit were at one time very brilliant minds and terrific people but the second one calls Trump out on his bullshit, that person is now a lying loser that Donald barely knew and never trusted, etc. It's the whole if you think everyone else in the room is an rear end in a top hat then you're the rear end in a top hat thing.
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BiggerBoat posted:I also never get why the MAGA's never put together that it's always, ALWAYS, the other people who are liars and losers but never the person at the center of it all. So may people in his orbit were at one time very brilliant minds and terrific people but the second one calls Trump out on his bullshit, that person is now a lying loser that Donald barely knew and never trusted, etc. Oh, I'm sure they know that it's all Donald, but they idolize him as the Ur-Douchbag.
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BiggerBoat posted:I also never get why the MAGA's never put together that it's always, ALWAYS, the other people who are liars and losers but never the person at the center of it all. So may people in his orbit were at one time very brilliant minds and terrific people but the second one calls Trump out on his bullshit, that person is now a lying loser that Donald barely knew and never trusted, etc. That's not a bug its a feature. They want to be able to do the exact same thing and worship him as successfully gaslighting and conning all the marks (except them, or course, because they see through it, they're part of the grift/plot/con).
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kartikeya posted:10% of Republicans that actually admit they're Republicans thinking Trump should be criminally charged is wild. twitter is full of chuds and doomer/nihlists who spend time moving goal posts so they can feel bad and blame everyone but the loving chuds for everything bad happening. Cimber posted:West Virginia vs EPA out, 6-3 decision. yeah basically its bad but not fatal because its a stupidly narrow reading that can be redone by probably rewriting the laws/EPA stuff better at some point to strenthen the EPA again. https://twitter.com/gilbeaq/status/1542509969114664960 https://twitter.com/gilbeaq/status/1542510413782274053 not good but could be way worse. they will wait for another case to do more damage probably. Silly Burrito posted:This? yeah, trump wants wise guy lawyers and shithead lawyers from 80s movies because he is broke brained that way.
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Randalor posted:It's a small detail of a small part of the overall story that she was told second-hand that they can Again she's a woman. That's literally all they need to discredit her with minimum effort.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:twitter is full of chuds and doomer/nihlists who spend time moving goal posts so they can feel bad and blame everyone but the loving chuds for everything bad happening. Yes, our famously functional and detail-oriented legislature will surely rise to the challenge.
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So, being that it's the 30th, I was looking for the original source of where the "indictment announcement by the 30th" came from, can anyone help? I found this newsweek piece: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-may-charged-trying-overthrow-election-end-month-1714783 quote:Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis told the Associated Press that she expects to come to a decision on whether her office will charge the former president by June 30 for allegedly attempting to overthrow the results in Georgia. That seems to be referencing this AP piece: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-crime-donald-trump-elections-georgia-5f716d5b834829e708069233e34e6d38 quote:“I believe in 2022 a decision will be made in that case,” Willis said. “I certainly think that in the first half of the year that decisions will be made.” Is that all this is? A vague quote from January that she'd probably decide roughly in the first half of the year, and then people took an official announcement of June 30th as a planned hard deadline? And kept repeating it from then?
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XboxPants posted:So, being that it's the 30th, I was looking for the original source of where the "indictment announcement by the 30th" came from, can anyone help? I found this newsweek piece: That is my understanding, yes. Although as you've found, it's pretty hard to falsify vague rumor that someone said a thing once.
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XboxPants posted:So, being that it's the 30th, I was looking for the original source of where the "indictment announcement by the 30th" came from, can anyone help? I presumed this was true as well. After looking into it a bit, I think it is not. Aside from your quote, I think people also saw that grand juries in Georgia last 2 months.... except this isn't a normal grand jury. It is a special grand jury which was authorized by a judge to work for up to 1 year starting May 2nd. The special grand jury also won't indict, they will release a report which the DA can then choose to act on, I guess. And she also apparently said on CNN at one point that there would be a decision before the end of 2022. So I guess June 30 is bullshit.
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XboxPants posted:So, being that it's the 30th, I was looking for the original source of where the "indictment announcement by the 30th" came from, can anyone help? I found this newsweek piece: Atlanta Journal Constitution posted:Kemp’s sworn examination will take place on July 25. AtraMorS fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Well poo poo guys, sorry about that. I've been really vocal about the 30th because where I read it (and at this time I don't recall, either) I do remember thinking  and didn't assign the usual grain of salt. Without revisiting the source I can't say what made me so confident.The GA GJ is still going to indict many people on many high crimes. June 30th isn't a requirement for that, and it is definitely coming. Any wagers on that should be reassessed, I figure. Remember, today is not just a Friday. It's the Friday before a big holiday week. So if any bombshell news that isn't scheduled already (like the SCOTUS decisions) will most likely drop late in the day to at the last minute. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:Well poo poo guys, sorry about that. It's Thursday, doc.
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mdemone posted:It's Thursday, doc. That's probably the least inaccurate thing in the whole post. And I'm starting to think he's not a real doctor
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Selling your soul to the devil is hard work. Give him a break.
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Rigel posted:I presumed this was true as well. After looking into it a bit, I think it is not. Aside from your quote, I think people also saw that grand juries in Georgia last 2 months.... except this isn't a normal grand jury. It is a special grand jury which was authorized by a judge to work for up to 1 year starting May 2nd. The special grand jury also won't indict, they will release a report which the DA can then choose to act on, I guess. And she also apparently said on CNN at one point that there would be a decision before the end of 2022. This deadline time stuff for indictments coming down isn't that far off from QAnon
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mdemone posted:It's Thursday, doc.
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Dr. Faustus posted:I haven't been sleeping. I've been to bed four times in the last 48 hours. I honestly thought it was Friday already. That would be twice as many times as most people. Yeah, hoss, you should probably just chill for a bit. I think you’re extra crispy burnt out.
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For some reason I can't get more than three hours at a time. I keep trying to get a decent stretch but I bounce off the bed. Got another job interview @ 16:00. At least now I know what day it is.
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Dr. Faustus posted:I haven't been sleeping. I've been to bed four times in the last 48 hours. I honestly thought it was Friday already. I think the problem is the news is moving so fast that paying attention to it all the time somehow feels productive. It isn't. At the moment I've found reading Stephen King books to be quite relaxing.
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Any joy I might have felt at the prospect of a mattering happening turned to ashes in the face of our shiny new theo-fascist SCOTUS. They are destroying in just one year stuff that took my whole loving life to happen and I don't see any mechanism through which it can be stopped. Plus being jobless I have no reason to keep a schedule and it's gotten bad in the last two weeks. I was up by 7am every day up until just recently, after my new band fell through. The job interview went really well, going to talk about the in-person interview next Tues. Good money, good benefits, good hours. Fingers crossed.
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Someone just make Bernie Sanders Dictator Supreme and at least for whatever 5-10 years he has in life there’ll be some progress to good things
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Gatts posted:Someone just make Bernie Sanders Dictator Supreme and at least for whatever 5-10 years he has in life there’ll be some progress to good things Honestly if I have to have a Dictator Supreme, it might as well be Bernie.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Any joy I might have felt at the prospect of a mattering happening turned to ashes in the face of our shiny new theo-fascist SCOTUS. They are destroying in just one year stuff that took my whole loving life to happen and I don't see any mechanism through which it can be stopped. For godsake I looked over your posts you need to disconnect from politics, it's obviously not good for you. Just stay away from it!
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Dr. Faustus posted:Any joy I might have felt at the prospect of a mattering happening turned to ashes in the face of our shiny new theo-fascist SCOTUS. They are destroying in just one year stuff that took my whole loving life to happen and I don't see any mechanism through which it can be stopped. yeah, like you should probably take a break from this poo poo. i know my job(ok pay but poo poo hours) helped mixed with just hobbies and poo poo have helped a bunch. also just volunteer for political poo poo you like too. it helps.
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The instant clicking on a long running politics thread sparks dread rather than joy in your heart, you should unbookmark it.
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sebmojo posted:The instant clicking on a long running politics thread sparks dread rather than joy in your heart, you should unbookmark it. 
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:But politics or not that's every thread. Then u know what you must do 
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sebmojo posted:Then u know what you must do https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3420790 edit: or anything that's not real, to be honest.
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sebmojo posted:The instant clicking on a long running politics thread sparks dread rather than joy in your heart, you should unbookmark it. That said the last testimony did unironically spark joy.
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Nothing has been officially scheduled. I'm going to go shopping and get my gf her prescription. While I am out I politely request a 6er and I'll catch you cool kids on the other side. Is that ok? Peace. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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T.C. posted:The search warrant is a weird one, because it was potentially issued to the DoJ Inspector General based on direction in the warrant that the phone be sent to an office of the inspector general facility. That means that Eastman may nbot be the subject of the investigation used to justify the search warrant. The jurisdiction of the Inspector General is stuff that was done by people working at the DoJ, which Eastman has never been. So the speculation is that the target is Jeffrey Clark or someone else in the department. Yes, I’m aware that it originated from the IG office. I’m not sure that makes any real difference though. The only reason the DoJ IG would want evidence of crimes from Eastman is if they are following back from Clark to who originated the conspiracy. Since it’s a conspiracy that involves senior DoJ officials they can investigate it out to all parties. They’ll collect the evidence and then hand it off to a different branch to make the indictments. If they just cared about Clark and a few other shitheads at DoJ they wouldn’t need Eastman to make their case. I think the reason the IGs office is there now is because they started their investigation on the corruption in the DoJ on Jan 25 2021 while the main criminal group was focused on the rioters. They’ve already been investigating the leadership aspects so handing that off to a different group doesn’t make a lot of sense as it would mean a whole new group getting spin up on all the things they’ve e already done and learned.
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Dr. Faustus posted:Nothing has been officially scheduled. i gave you 18 hours, the cool kid probe length, if you really need back after six gimme a pm.
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Meadows confirmed to be one of the redacted names in the witness intimidation quotes. https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1542682111685136385
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Silly Burrito posted:Honestly if I have to have a Dictator Supreme, it might as well be Bernie. My man, Vermin Supreme was right there!
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Meadows confirmed to be one of the redacted names in the witness intimidation quotes. So, arrest him for obstruction of congress and witness tampering. Like, sometimes these things don’t need to be investigated for 3 years first. The crime is right there, indict him.
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Murgos posted:So, arrest him for obstruction of congress and witness tampering. Like, sometimes these things don’t need to be investigated for 3 years first. The crime is right there, indict him. That wouldn't make it Meadows sending the message - it's from someone saying they heard from Meadows about the deposition. It could be that it's being done on his behalf, but it seems like less of a slam dunk.
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