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D-Pad posted:Ebook is going up for preorder next week as well Ah sick
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Dang there's a book about the Volpone Bluebloods in the Sunday Preview, they were interesting in an insufferable aristo way and I'd like to see more. But also it's a Nick Kyme book
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Jul 10, 2022 20:37
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DaysBefore posted:But also it's a Nick Kyme book You know, I'm sure he's a great editor.
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Jul 10, 2022 20:41
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Read The Infinite and the Divine on the recommendation of this thread and the first 2/3rds was excellent. Felt it kinda lost itself in the final fifty pages, which was too bad because I really enjoyed the back and forth scheming between Orikan and Trayzn. I've mainly read Dan Abnett (all but the first couple Ghost books and all of the Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin series) and the Ciaphas Cain novels. What would folks suggest for something that will make me feel dread even on a sunny day, but also doesn't have characters that are obviously going to survive because of their role in the tabletop?
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Jul 10, 2022 20:53
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DaysBefore posted:Dang there's a book about the Volpone Bluebloods in the Sunday Preview, they were interesting in an insufferable aristo way and I'd like to see more. But also it's a Nick Kyme book That's the German version in the preview. The English one is already out. I haven't read it yet but heard it isn't bad if you like the bluebloods. habeasdorkus posted:Read The Infinite and the Divine on the recommendation of this thread and the first 2/3rds was excellent. Felt it kinda lost itself in the final fifty pages, which was too bad because I really enjoyed the back and forth scheming between Orikan and Trayzn. If you want dread I would read Requiem Infernal or The Reverie. Both insanely excellent horror by Peter Fehervari.
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Jul 10, 2022 20:57
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D-Pad posted:That's the German version in the preview. The English one is already out. I haven't read it yet but heard it isn't bad if you like the bluebloods. The thing about the Bluebloods is they haven't actually been in an Abnett book for 20 years. They were pretty thinly sketched aristocratic archetypes there, anchored in a much stronger book overall (Necropolis). Handing them to Kyme was just the kiss of death for them. He's trying to flesh them out like other better authors would, and the internal politics of the regiment has the germ of an interesting idea. But overall the book just is quite boring. It feels like the mediocre guard novels of 20 years ago when we know BL can be more nowadays.
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Jul 10, 2022 21:06
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They also had a short story in the Sabbat Worlds anthology book from 2010, but it too was a Kyme thing. I guess they just belong to him now lmao. The short wasn't too bad though, they met up with a regiment from a feral world so that was neat.
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Jul 10, 2022 21:33
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The one short where they teamed up with a Scion strike force was hot trash that just abruptly ends without resolving anything.
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Jul 10, 2022 23:16
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To be fair, that's because "Scions" are just Stormtroopers that got wodged in for copyright purposes and we all know how well the books about new toys are written.
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Jul 10, 2022 23:40
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Arquinsiel posted:To be fair, that's because "Scions" are just Stormtroopers that got wodged in for copyright purposes and we all know how well the books about new toys are written. This is probably a case of bad author more than having to fit the models into the fiction. I mean besides the name change Stormtroopers had already been in books. I've never felt Scions were a particularly egregious addition, just another elite special unit in a galaxy full of them. Abnett himself introduced them fairly organically in the Ghosts series, and he's normally pretty immune to new modelitis (inventing tons of wacky stuff for his books that's never gotten or ever will get models). In The Warmaster they show up because its the Ghosts (and readers) first look at the absolute upper echelon of the Crusade command structure, and of course the elite bodyguard special forces would be all over that. That's how a good BL author organically rolls in stuff that GW wants to push if you ask me.
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Jul 11, 2022 02:09
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The Infinite and The Devine audio book so far.  I love that the story is basically two assholes trolling the poo poo out of each other. Also Robert Rath's council meeting made me chuckle a ton, especially as an Attoreny. I love Trayzan, his personality, his love of knowledge and history, and him being a dick. lolRichard Reed is also a fantastic narrator/VA.
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Jul 11, 2022 02:17
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Arc Hammer posted:The one short where they teamed up with a Scion strike force was hot trash that just abruptly ends without resolving anything. I remember reading that one. I think there was some Chaos witch in it. And that's all I remember of it. v  v Admittedly it's been a couple of years since I read any of the anthologies.
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Jul 11, 2022 02:36
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Cooked Auto posted:I remember reading that one. That's literally all that happens. The scions roll up, talk poo poo to the Volpone, and then a Witch appears and they shoot at it. Then the story ends with a historical excerpt saying this was the first time the crusade met a Witch on the battlefield.
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Jul 11, 2022 03:58
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Marshal Prolapse posted:The Infinite and The Devine audio book so far. Once again I am going to recommend Rites of Passage for anybody who enjoyed Infinite and Trazyn's dickishness
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Jul 11, 2022 04:17
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wiegieman posted:You know, I'm sure he's a great editor. He’s ADB’s editor, so it seems like this is really the case. a lovely king posted:In The Warmaster they show up because its the Ghosts (and readers) first look at the absolute upper echelon of the Crusade command structure, and of course the elite bodyguard special forces would be all over that. I didn’t even know the Scions were a thing they were pushing, I thought Abnett just created an elite guard unit because the book dealt so heavily with the high command. Khizan fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Jul 11, 2022 08:20
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a lovely king posted:This is probably a case of bad author more than having to fit the models into the fiction.
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Jul 11, 2022 12:51
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The sudden introduction of "lasriflemen" in Salvation's Reach is definitely one that brought me out of the loop a little. It was either in Reach or the second anthology at least.
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Jul 11, 2022 14:23
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Cooked Auto posted:The sudden introduction of "lasriflemen" in Salvation's Reach is definitely one that brought me out of the loop a little. That's a weird one because it's not even something thrown in because of the models. Abnett is a big history buff and he probably just came across a similar phrase while writing that one. Not unlike GRRM having new favourite 'historical' phrases in every book that he overuses then drops in the next one. Abnett seems to fixate on different kinds of military history or fiction across different books (trench warfare, special ops, politics of command, armoured warfare) and clearly researches a lot of stuff, then moves onto the next thing in the next book.
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Jul 11, 2022 14:43
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a lovely king posted:
I like that implication little and less. About as useful as nipples on a breastplate.
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Jul 11, 2022 14:48
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nipples on breastplates are obviously useless and hilariously well attested so what can you do https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_cuirass
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Jul 11, 2022 14:50
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Cooked Auto posted:The sudden introduction of "lasriflemen" in Salvation's Reach is definitely one that brought me out of the loop a little.
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Jul 11, 2022 15:20
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Arquinsiel posted:That's just an assumption that a lasgun fills the role of a rifle in a post -US Civil War infantry section, and thus sections are composed of lasriflemen, and him having already decided to call the guns "lasrifles" from very early on. "Laslocks" were a real weird thing to show up though. Laslocks are just the wind up guns from that one Futurama episode.
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Jul 11, 2022 15:29
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Sephyr posted:I like that implication little and less. About as useful as nipples on a breastplate. Nipples on a breastplate do have a use, it's just a cosmetic use. The guy who can afford extra detailing on his armor is the guy who's rich enough to be a good employer.
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Jul 11, 2022 15:33
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Abnett also uses just 'lasman' which is a lot less clunky and is basically just another way to say 'soldier'. It is gendered though, which is no problem in some contexts but I do kinda wish he used something neutral like 'trooper' more often (of course Guardsman is also gendered which sucks because it's cool) But yeah whenever there's a long running series and the author suddenly catches on a new phrase or term or saying it's super noticable. Of course Abnett also invented some of the most widely-used terms in 40k iirc so I guess he can get away with it. DaysBefore fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Jul 11, 2022 15:48
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a lovely king posted:Laslocks are just the wind up guns from that one Futurama episode. I just assumed Laslocks were like bolt action rifles, slower rate of fire but still, you know, guns. It's just that no-one would use one in war if they had a modern weapon available.
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Jul 11, 2022 16:14
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Angry Lobster posted:The hardass trials for new aspirants that many chapters do are actually meaningless and a waste of life, just another instance of 'hard places create hard men' poo poo. Read Scars, from the Horus Heresy. There it shows a training center in Terra that selected aspirants for implantation to be recruited by nearly all legions before they set up their recruiting methods in their own worlds. No treks in death worlds, no gladiatorial blood games, no nonsense, just endurance and fitness tests. Bit of a throw back to earlier in the thread, but this comes up at the end of Devastation of Baal, with Guilliman saying "this death world poo poo ends now, you'll do better if your population don't live in a constant life/death struggle hell hole. We have technology you loving morons"
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Jul 11, 2022 16:14
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I just assumed Laslocks were like bolt action rifles, slower rate of fire but still, you know, guns. It's just that no-one would use one in war if they had a modern weapon available. Yeah they're definitely written as bolt action lasguns. I was just goofing about the futurama guns.
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Jul 11, 2022 16:23
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I just assumed Laslocks were like bolt action rifles, slower rate of fire but still, you know, guns. It's just that no-one would use one in war if they had a modern weapon available. They are bolt action laguns with the upside that they are higher "caliber"
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Jul 11, 2022 17:01
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a lovely king posted:Laslocks are just the wind up guns from that one Futurama episode. DaysBefore posted:Abnett also uses just 'lasman' which is a lot less clunky and is basically just another way to say 'soldier'. It is gendered though, which is no problem in some contexts but I do kinda wish he used something neutral like 'trooper' more often (of course Guardsman is also gendered which sucks because it's cool)
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Jul 11, 2022 17:05
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Arquinsiel posted:The problem with "trooper" is that Abnett is the kind of grog to know that only calvary soldiers are troopers, and then you have the problem of addressing the corporals and upwards since it's actually a rank. He sort of retconned himself in the GG series as he presumably got more knowledgeable about military stuff. At the beginning of the series the Ghosts are just tons of platoons, led by sergeants. One major and one colonel above all of those for the entire regiment. Kinda weird. Then once the regiment gets a rejig in His Last Command it seems he decided to make it a little more 'realistic' and reorganised it so the sergeants became captains, platoons become companies and there's more than one major for the entire regiment.
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Jul 11, 2022 17:38
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Telsa Cola posted:They are bolt action laguns with the upside that they are higher "caliber" Something like an in-between from a regular power cartridge lasgun and the high powered, single-use hotshot power cartridges. Early Ghosts books giving the regiment a strange organizational structure does fit with them essentially being the dregs that survived the bombardment and Gaunt giving brevet promotions to the leaders who emerged from the rankers since they had no officer corps when they fled Tanith. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jul 11, 2022 |
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Jul 11, 2022 17:38
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I listened to Kyme's Blueblood book and actually liked it. It wasn't great, but it was a fun diversion, more of a mystery novel than standard military fiction. The main protagonist is kind of a stereotypical stiff-upper-lip soldier's soldier, but his star-crossed past romance with another male officer kept me interested. I really wanted them to kiss and tell each other their feelings. As for the Great Renaming, I hate it so very much. I understand the logic of it, but it's such a nakedly corporate decision and the new names are so universally awful. They could have chosen names that were consistent with earlier 40k faux Latin but instead went the lazy route. The Imperial Guard could be the Adeptus Milites or something but instead they googled "star army".
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Jul 11, 2022 17:42
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I also thought the platoon thing was because the Ghosts aren't (supposed to be) a standard front line trench fighting regiment but a bunch of flexible sneaky boys. And also because GW doesn't understand armies so there will be regiments of tens of thousands of troopers led by a Colonel who also fights alongside the grunts. The Tanith 1st definitely got a lot more realistic once His Last Command changed the structure of the regiment. Then you have things like Salvations Reach showing them getting reinforcements from (2/3rds of) the homeworlds which was cool.
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Jul 11, 2022 17:49
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I just assumed Laslocks were like bolt action rifles, slower rate of fire but still, you know, guns. It's just that no-one would use one in war if they had a modern weapon available. My assumption was they had to build up a charge in a capacitor between shots, so much slower firing.
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Jul 11, 2022 18:35
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D-Pad posted:Once again I am going to recommend Rites of Passage for anybody who enjoyed Infinite and Trazyn's dickishness Thanks! I’ll keep that one as a wishlist book for when I clear my backlog…or at least a little bit. But yeah Trayzan is such a master troll, it’s nice to see the Waldorf and Statler of 40K.
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Jul 11, 2022 18:43
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a lovely king posted:He sort of retconned himself in the GG series as he presumably got more knowledgeable about military stuff. Arc Hammer posted:Early Ghosts books giving the regiment a strange organizational structure does fit with them essentially being the dregs that survived the bombardment and Gaunt giving brevet promotions to the leaders who emerged from the rankers since they had no officer corps when they fled Tanith. 
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Jul 11, 2022 19:48
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Abstracted to some departmento munitorum scribe's desk way back at Segmentum Command eighty sectors away.
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Jul 11, 2022 20:04
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Thanks! I’ll keep that one as a wishlist book for when I clear my backlog…or at least a little bit. Cheta (from Rites of Passage) is all four Golden Girls combined and put in charge of a navigator house. I really really want to see a Trazyn vs Cheta book it would be amazing.
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Jul 11, 2022 20:07
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Sephyr posted:I like that implication little and less. About as useful as nipples on a breastplate. How else are you going to intimidate the enemy with the size of your areolas if you don't have your nipples represented on your armor?
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Vaults of terra Dark City speculation ahead: so I'm pretty sure the dark eldar got ahold of the custodian Navradaran as part of their bargain, and Crowl knows and will go there to rescue him. right? thats my theory and I hope you enjoyed it
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