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Halloween Jack posted:The funny thing in all this is that they had no qualms about blowing up Ilum, but Coruscant was going too far. Eh, everyone has heard of Coruscant, no one but NEEEEEEEERDS ever gave a gently caress about Ilum. poo poo, I don't think I even heard of it till goons posted about it after the film came out. As for Andor, instead of the weird obsession some have with "I hope this makes someone mad!!!!", I merely hope the show is Actually Good and well made. Mon Mothma pootling about right under the Empire's nose forming an insurgency sounds awesome, plus hopefully we'll see more of Bail and Saw too. Also lol/yay at the Naked Miner Boss from Chernobyl popping up in the trailer. teagone posted:Just want to hammer it home through visual language that those guys are insurgents, freedom fighters, revolutionaries, etc. Hmmm, good point.
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Anita Dickinme posted:But yeah, kinda weird they chose to go with an exact AK in freaking Star Wars. All the other OT guns were just real guns with extra poo poo glued onto them, so it kind of makes sense. They probably should have altered the silhouette a little bit more, but in this case it's probably likely they wanted people to identify what the gun was supposed to be, since the AK's specific connotations are likely to tie into the themes of the show.
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Did they just canonize the VT-49 Decimator? It looked like that was what Skarsgaard's character was flying.
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It’s pretty funny how they specifically call out rogue one’s creators as being a part of this. I think most of the fandom has reached a consensus that Rogue one at least feels StarWars and has a good finale.
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That poo poo looks awesome.MeinPanzer posted:
Yeah, that was noticed when the trailer came out back in May. There's some minor changes to the back of the receiver, but it's pretty clear they wanted to keep the bulk of the AK silhouette. I'm really curious if they are actually going to be slugthrowers or just normal blasters.
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Aug 1, 2022 17:45
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This isn't super high praise or anything but I think it looks a lot, lot better than the obi wan show. The premise being expressly pointless is just one of the costs of the ticket for disney wars at this point
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Aug 1, 2022 18:10
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I said come in! posted:Watched the Andor trailer, it just looks like more of the same from Obi-Wan; pointless fan service with zero consequences or reasons to care because all it does is reference future events that we already know the outcome of. This looks just as terrible as Obi-Wan was, and that was among some of the worse of Star Wars we've ever gotten. Isnt that the star wars prequels? We know the outcome of the prequels as well, but I think Andor being a spy political thriller about the formation of the rebel alliance is very cool. We are seeing brand new planets, characters, etc, it looks gorgeous, as long as the stakes and tension are appropriately built in the episode it should be great? i mean just in terms of the trailer, I think it looks well shot and staged, a clear level beyond any of the volume productions, with some striking visuals. Just need the plotting to be tight. Jerkface fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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Darth TNT posted:It’s pretty funny how they specifically call out rogue one’s creators as being a part of this. I think most of the fandom has reached a consensus that Rogue one at least feels StarWars and has a good finale. Why is it funny that they reference the creators of Rogue One if you acknowledge that the fandom likes Rogue One? That seems like a pretty logical thing to do, especially when it has extremely obvious ties to Rogue One.
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Jerkface posted:Isnt that the star wars prequels? We know the outcome of the prequels as well, but I think Andor being a spy political thriller about the formation of the rebel alliance is very cool. We are seeing brand new planets, characters, etc, it looks gorgeous, as long as the stakes and tension are appropriately built in the episode it should be great? You are correct, that was the prequels as well, and they were totally pointless movies. Andor could possibly be good, and do all of the right things, but I thought that about Obi-Wan too, those trailers hid what the show was really about, and that child Leia was going to be key to the whole thing, which ended up being a gigantic mistake. I won't bother watching Andor until all of the episodes have aired. Zero confidence in anything Star Wars related, not willing to give it a chance anymore until it proves itself, this thread will have to be positive on it.
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I said come in! posted:You are correct, that was the prequels as well, and they were totally pointless movies. Andor could possibly be good, and do all of the right things, but I thought that about Obi-Wan too, those trailers hid what the show was really about, and that child Leia was going to be key to the whole thing, which ended up being a gigantic mistake. I won't bother watching Andor until all of the episodes have aired. Zero confidence in anything Star Wars related, not willing to give it a chance anymore until it proves itself, this thread will have to be positive on it. Personally I don't think the prequals were pointless but Solo completely was. Other than Kenobi I really wish they would stop with the prequals and just focus on stuff in the present Mandoverse. Because the sequels don't exist. 
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thrawn527 posted:Chris Roberts destroying his own franchise with that movie has always been insane to me. I remember leaving the theater, thinking, "What rear end in a top hat ruined poor Chris Roberts' Wing Commander? Oh, it was Chris Roberts. Well, poo poo." It's loving incredible. Also, lmao that he thought this would be interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9WFw56Mv1w
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I said come in! posted:You are correct, that was the prequels as well, and they were totally pointless movies. Andor could possibly be good, and do all of the right things, but I thought that about Obi-Wan too, those trailers hid what the show was really about, and that child Leia was going to be key to the whole thing, which ended up being a gigantic mistake. I won't bother watching Andor until all of the episodes have aired. Zero confidence in anything Star Wars related, not willing to give it a chance anymore until it proves itself, this thread will have to be positive on it. Just give up now lol.
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It only took two and a half years from people going bugfuck about how good the Volume looked on the Mando premiere to being full "Oh no, man, it doesn't have the warmth of vinyl" snobs about it.
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I mean surely you have to blame the obi wan show for that and not the audience for being snobs. I think before the obi wan show repeatedly glaringly used it badly and showed its limitations, most people ITT didn't even know what the volume was
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Aug 1, 2022 19:38
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Madurai posted:It only took two and a half years from people going bugfuck about how good the Volume looked on the Mando premiere to being full "Oh no, man, it doesn't have the warmth of vinyl" snobs about it. I think, like any tech, it comes down to the implementation. Most people dont realize The Batman used the volume quite a bit to supplement the sets. The volume work on The Mandalorian is generally pretty impressive. Then you get rushed covid production shows like BOBF and Obi Wan where you're like "ok they're fighting in a perfect flat ground circle with 1 rock in it that is surrounded by a circle of stones off in the distance... this is the volume". One only needs to look at the Robert Rodriguez episode of Mando to know that location shooting doesnt look amazing by default either. It all comes down to the production design, cinematographer, and the director's vision for the scene.
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No Mods No Masters posted:I mean surely you have to blame the obi wan show for that and not the audience for being snobs. I think before the obi wan show repeatedly glaringly used it badly and showed its limitations, most people ITT didn't even know what the volume was I have no idea which shots you're talking about.
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Madurai posted:I have no idea which shots you're talking about. Even when dorks were posting screenshots of the "bad lighting" it was impossible for a normal person to see what the gently caress they were talking about.
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Without ill will, if you thought the obi wan show looked fine, we just have different standards and we're not going to convince each other. Enjoy the star wars products, they were made for you
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Madurai posted:I have no idea which shots you're talking about. the entire final fight is on a volume set. Its very noticeable when the set is pretty barren outside of the "surroundings" - so you have Vader and obi basically fighting on a circle of flat ground and anything interesting is 20 ft+ away from them. The best usage of it is building some physical sets and using the volume to extend or expand it. Also because the volume limits your ability to film at certain distances (the vista you see is not real, so you can't film from far away, etc) it can make a lot of the desert scenes look a little jank which was noticeable in BOBF and Obi. Edit: Episode 5 is also all volume sets! The one where there are like 20 storm troopers just standing around a completely barren floor mindlessly shooting at a door with all the "set" dressing conveniently located 5 feet away from everyone! Jerkface fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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Madurai posted:I have no idea which shots you're talking about. I'd have to go back through the show to screengrab (lol not doing that) but jisforjosh posted:
It's one of those things that when done well with a good cinematographer (like most special effects), it looks great and you don't even notice it. Most of The Batman shots that use The Volume are great
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thrawn527 posted:Why is it funny that they reference the creators of Rogue One if you acknowledge that the fandom likes Rogue One? That seems like a pretty logical thing to do, especially when it has extremely obvious ties to Rogue One. I just think it’s funny due to the perceived quality of the whole host of other movies. And based on how Disney has been doing things, prepare for a tidal wave of rogue one adjacent stuff if this is halfway good.
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Jerkface posted:Isnt that the star wars prequels? We know the outcome of the prequels as well, but I think Andor being a spy political thriller about the formation of the rebel alliance is very cool. How many things are Disney going to make that involve the origins of the Rebel Alliance? Star Wars: Rebels spent a good bit of it's run time on being about the formation of the Rebel Alliance, Rogue One invoked it too via Saw and Jyn banding Cassian and company into a more cohesive whole or something, Obi-Wan had some hints about it via "the Path"; there are probably others I've forgotten about or missed. Hasn't it formed yet? Or are they just going to have a story covering every inch of it's formation? Will there be a show in a decades time about C3-P0 recording meetings as Mon Motha works out logistics for 40 minutes, with a gripping finale where they sign a document certifying everything before the blue milk goes off?
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Solo a star wars story also had the freckled lady using some hyperfuel to start the rebellion, or something. If I'm giving andor the benefit of the doubt, having been started like 10 times, it seems like the rebellion could be basically underway at that point
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the force unleashed did it too and im sure it was done in the old canon before that, but its always some variant of the same: mon mothma, bail organa, and maybe jan dodonna if they remember him get together with the main character and his merry gang of tritagonists in a CGI board room and decide it's about darn time someone does something dangit. Ice Cube Jr. will probably show up this go around so hey there is that
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https://gizmodo.com/star-wars-andor-locations-diego-luna-rogue-one-pinewood-1849355211 Apparently Andor did not use the Volume.
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aw man, i just looked up poor jan and pretty much the first thing disney did with the new canon was immediately murder him the second the battle of yavin 4 ended.
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No Mods No Masters posted:Without ill will, if you thought the obi wan show looked fine, we just have different standards and we're not going to convince each other. Enjoy the star wars products, they were made for you More specifically, extremely low standards.
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Epi Lepi posted:Even when dorks were posting screenshots of the "bad lighting" it was impossible for a normal person to see what the gently caress they were talking about. Madurai posted:It only took two and a half years from people going bugfuck about how good the Volume looked on the Mando premiere to being full "Oh no, man, it doesn't have the warmth of vinyl" snobs about it. historically dorks nerds et al have been the people who consume whatever slop theyre given so long as it has their favorite wacky space wizard IP, but i do love this attempt by dumb people to flip the board
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Calling it now: Andor’s going to be good, aside from the usual Prestige TV bloat. The trailer’s already more cinematic than anything else released thus far.Halloween Jack posted:The other funny thing is that this is apparently backed up by all the stupid tie-in novels. The Disney-EU is a clusterfuck but, since they largely attempt to explain what the hell is going on in the messy films, they are sometimes able to provide an accurate interpretation. It’s simply not possible for the baddies of Episodes 7 and 8 to be external invaders. Of course, EU is also used to ‘retcon’ undesirable content, so we end up with petulant sadist robo-Anakin versus Jedi as a persecuted ethnic group. They’re not reliable sources.
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Smythe posted:was the battlefront 2 campaign worth a drat? Eh, it was fine. Pretty good, even. Decent story. Some fun cameos. But definitely not a "complete game", or anything. (Something like 6 hours to complete, I think?) The multiplayer is still the star.
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I'm bad at videogames, but I had some fun with it, for something designed to be multiplayer. If you're wondering how it plays into the larger story: right before Palpatine died, he had a bunch of resources moved to the Unknown Regions (where Exegol is) instead of using those resources to stop the Rebellion from killing him. So that kinda explains the fleet on Exegol. After he died, he had a failsafe set up to bomb some of the most loyal Imperial planets, for no reason. The idea is that it was punishment for failing him (because they didn't build enough ships to stop the Rebellion and literally bury a fleet in the rear end-end of the galaxy). But c'mon, it's Sheev. He did it because it was funny.
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thrawn527 posted:Eh, it was fine. Pretty good, even. Decent story. Some fun cameos. But definitely not a "complete game", or anything. (Something like 6 hours to complete, I think?) The multiplayer is still the star. ah, ty
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Smythe posted:was the battlefront 2 campaign worth a drat? I enjoyed it, but it let me play ROTJ Luke the way ROTJ Luke should be played. His encounter with Del Meeko (one of the other Imperials) was probably my favorite part of the game, story-wise.
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Bogus Adventure posted:I enjoyed it, but it let me play ROTJ Luke the way ROTJ Luke should be played. His encounter with Del Meeko (one of the other Imperials) was probably my favorite part of the game, story-wise. Agreed, that was one of the highlights of the story, for sure.
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thrawn527 posted:Agreed, that was one of the highlights of the story, for sure. That, and the one mission where you get the interplay between Lando and... Shriv? (something like that, the Duros officer who's the announcer for the Rebels during multiplayer)
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Smythe posted:someone mentioned the force unleashed earlier and gotta say the first one (idk if there were more) was badass They did a second one. It had four levels, removed a lot of the physics playground stuff the first one had, and ended on the never-resolved cliffhanger of Vader getting captured by the Rebels.
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Robot Style posted:They did a second one. It had four levels, removed a lot of the physics playground stuff the first one had, and ended on the never-resolved cliffhanger of Vader getting captured by the Rebels. Did it really only have four levels? I know I played it, but I don't remember much about it (outside of the mentioned cliffhanger). That might explain why I forgot everything else about it. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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