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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Yeah let me just pick this guy up then I'll sit down with him and hug his little leggies for the pin. How about a high stack pinning powerbomb?
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For those that didn't see it, last night on Dynamite Jericho held Moxley in a submission hold through an unfortunately-timed (sorta? It was kinda cool) commercial/picture-in-picture break. It felt like 5 minutes. If it wasn't this, what's the longest (time-wise) submission hold in a televised match?
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backlund had bret in a chickenwing for like 10 minutes at survivor series 94. suzuki/tanahashi have that famous spot but i dont remember how long it is.
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Aug 11, 2022 19:11
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Yeah he used to be called the Cheetah Kid Wasn't Cheetah Kid like an NE indie mainstay for ages? I think I remember seeing the name a lot for IWCCW results in the Apter mags back in the day.
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Dawgstar posted:Wasn't Cheetah Kid like an NE indie mainstay for ages? I think I remember seeing the name a lot for IWCCW results in the Apter mags back in the day. You might be thinking of Cheetah Master. Gimmick might have also been given to someone else.
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Dawgstar posted:Wasn't Cheetah Kid like an NE indie mainstay for ages? I think I remember seeing the name a lot for IWCCW results in the Apter mags back in the day. Yeah, he wrestled in pre-ECW Philly indy TWA, he did jobs in '80s AWA, he even had a few New Japan dates (including teaming with guys like Scott Hall & The Punisher (aka The Undertaker) & Pegasus Kid). Definitely what you'd call a NE mainstay before he finally got some momentum as Public Enemy. And for the IWCCW connection, he appeared on WCW doing some jobs as Mario Savoldi, after IWCCW promoter Angelo Savoldi's son. Whether that was a rib or a tribute, I dunno. And yes, Cheetah Kid Ted Petty is not to be confused with Cheetah Master, who was a late '90s/very early '00s indy guy, who is probably best known for his run in the Delaware promotion ECWA (but he also showed up in Pennsylvania too), specifically in the first ever Super 8 tournament where he beat Devon Storm & Billy Kidman before losing in the finals.
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BaronVanAwesome posted:For those that didn't see it, last night on Dynamite Jericho held Moxley in a submission hold through an unfortunately-timed (sorta? It was kinda cool) commercial/picture-in-picture break. It felt like 5 minutes. Tanahashi and Minoru Suzuki once had a match where Suzuki held him in a kneebar for a pretty legitimate 10 minutes. Because it's Tanahashi and Suzuki, they still made it into incredible drama that didn't feel that long at all.
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what's the name of the submission hold wherein Wrestler A locks Wrestler B's knees and sits/kneels on them, keeping their upper body upright? Kazuyuki Fujita did it on Go Shiozaki yesterday. I believe Masa Kitamiya does it often, too.
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Lily Catts posted:what's the name of the submission hold wherein Wrestler A locks Wrestler B's knees and sits/kneels on them, keeping their upper body upright? Kazuyuki Fujita did it on Go Shiozaki yesterday. I believe Masa Kitamiya does it often, too. that's a kneeling figure four leglock, dubbed the Prison Lock by Masa Saito (who created it while he was in prison) https://twitter.com/Hi5ame/status/1460694340070694921?s=20&t=1XgYTmODdHlxgiNzAZfNiw
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Sandman McMahon posted:Cool! I'll keep an eye out next time I'm in a comic shop.  thought that looked familiar
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the funny part is fire pro doesn't actually have counters for aerial attacks
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Artelier posted:the funny part is fire pro doesn't actually have counters for aerial attacks Yeah. As long as they are very specifically lined up with each other that guy is hosed! But also lol at the covers, I never put that together
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Artelier posted:the funny part is fire pro doesn't actually have counters for aerial attacks Well, except moving slightly
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Pumphandle moves are kinda cool but the Grace Driver kicks a ton of rear end. It's a move that says "match over".
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I love the made in Japan
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Well, except moving slightly The ZSJ manoeuvre
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Breetai posted:Pumphandle moves are kinda cool but the Grace Driver kicks a ton of rear end. It's a move that says "match over". Captain Foo posted:I love the made in Japan Aren’t they the same move?
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Please respect the Unstoppable Fuckstorm and refer to the move as "Karma"
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Dacap posted:Aren’t they the same move? I don’t know what a Grace Driver is!
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What's the difference between a pumphandle move and a wrist clutch move? I thought a pumphandle was the specific way Road Dogg and Wrath lifted people for their pumphandle slams. The Made in Japan/Grace Driver I thought was a wrist clutch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4hfIILHxA4 Anyway, I really like moves that start from that arm triangle position.
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Captain Foo posted:I don’t know what a Grace Driver is! It is YOSHI-HASHI's Karma
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Yeah that looks like the same thing
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Arm Anderson’s Spine Buster
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Is Undertaker the wrestler who stayed with one company the longest time, at 30 years? Not counting wrestlers who took backstage jobs, only active wrestlers, though calling Undertaker "active" is probably stretching the definition.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Is Undertaker the wrestler who stayed with one company the longest time, at 30 years? Not counting wrestlers who took backstage jobs, only active wrestlers, though calling Undertaker "active" is probably stretching the definition. Atlantis has been with CMLL for like 40 years.
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MassRafTer posted:Atlantis has been with CMLL for like 40 years. Well, that's that. Second question, have there ever been any male valets, for either a woman or man wrestler? Do any women even have managers? I don't think I could name one but I haven't paid attention to anything past 2001.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Well, that's that. you should check out aew, but yes and frequently
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flatluigi posted:you should check out aew, but yes and frequently I should, uh, do they have a free show that's available to stream or is it on TV like Raw?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Well, that's that. Jimmy Hart managed the Glamour Girls, Harvey Wippleman managed Bertha Faye
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flatluigi posted:you should check out aew, but yes and frequently Admiral Joeslop posted:I should, uh, do they have a free show that's available to stream or is it on TV like Raw? Both. There's their Dark and Dark: Elevation shows on YouTube, and then the main show is Dynamite at 8 PM Eastern Wednesday nights on TBS, and the 1-hour Rampage is on Friday nights at 10 PM Eastern on TNT. Jade Cargill, their Women's TBS Champion (basically, the midcard belt) has gone through now two male valet/managers, her "lawyer" Smart Mark Sterling now being replaced by her "agent" Stokely Hathaway. Also Kip Sabian and his wife Penelope Ford act as each other's valets... or at least they did before she got injured and he started showing up for every show wearing a box over his head. We still don't know why.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I should, uh, do they have a free show that's available to stream or is it on TV like Raw? They have a Wednesday show on TBS and a Friday show on TNT, but they also run free matches on youtube on Mondays and Tuesdays. It's mostly jobber matches but sometimes there are competitive matches. But to answer your question Stokely Hathaway is currently managing Jade Cargill in AEW. It's happened before, WCW had Sonny Onoo as the racist stereotype manager of Bull Nakano for instance. As for male valets, the joke was Jason in ECW was a male valet rather than a manager.
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Davros1 posted:Jimmy Hart managed the Glamour Girls, Harvey Wippleman managed Bertha Faye Isn't Stoke managing Jade in AEW even now? Also Larry Sweeney managed Sara Del Rey.
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I don't know any of those people besides Jimmy Hart and ol' Harvey but thanks for the answers. If I had kept reading that Wikipedia article, I would've noticed Ricardo Rodriguez who they say fits the original description of a valet, so sure.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I should, uh, do they have a free show that's available to stream or is it on TV like Raw? if you're not in the US (or apparently Italy and maybe Germany) there's a website called fite.tv that has the entire run of AEW including the two weekly live TV episodes and a few of their PPVs for under ten bucks a month
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Kvantum posted:Also Kip Sabian and his wife Penelope Ford act as each other's valets... or at least they did before she got injured and he started showing up for every show wearing a box over his head. We still don't know why. And here I was thinking he had been quietly released a year ago or something
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Dr. Quarex posted:I remember reading that Kip Sabian comment before and I assumed it was just a random joke but apparently this is true and now I am confused he was out with an injury for a while that was also keyfabed as miro horribly crippling him (warning: really good segment that's genuinely hard to watch) https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1387583461939101698 they've only very recently started mentioning that it's been him in the crowd all this time, and he's being set up to return and challenge PAC in some way: https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1554621065850245127 it's weird, but it's definitely a unique way to keep yourself active a bit while being on the shelf + i do think it's funny how some aew fans have noticed him since he started showing up and some of them never knew he's been around for months
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I've noticed the guy wearing the box but I just assumed it was a fan being cheeky
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CommonShore posted:I've noticed the guy wearing the box but I just assumed it was a fan being cheeky No, it's Gomi.
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Which Bray/Fiend loss is the most baffling? I know not everyone is wild on him but the strange thing about him is they'd build him up, build him up, and then pull the rug out from under him right when he needed a win. And this happened over and over and over again with Cena, Undertaker, Goldberg.... Probably others I'm forgetting. I've never seen anything like it, putting in a lot of effort only to sabotage all your efforts at the end.
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Probably Goldberg for me. Cena is Cena and Undertaker is probably the truest version of a WWE legend but Goldberg is a guy that was most popular 25 years ago and didn't even seem to mean much to the WWE.
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