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Meme Emulator posted:What did the fake wano ending for PW4 end up being? Basically, after Kaido beats Luffy early on, Luffy is taken prisoner and word gets out. EVERYONE shows up to help. Bartolomeo, Cavendish, Sabo, Kuzan, Smoker and Tashigi all show up to help Luffy and the Straw Hats. Pretty much all of the Wano specific characters don’t exist outside of Mom and Kinemon, so no Orochi or Yamato or the other samurai. Luffy is freed, and everyone storms Onigashima to challenge Kaido.
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At this point I feel like Yamato as a character was specifically designed to cause every single member of the One Piece fandom to be mad in one way or another.
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Tolth posted:At this point I feel like Yamato as a character was specifically designed to cause every single member of the One Piece fandom to be mad in one way or another. Oda does it again
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Ryaomon posted:lol just remembered nidai kitetsu just fuckin completely disappeared and was never brought up again addendum: just realized Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji all get some sort of power up in wano and then by the end of the arc they get another power up that makes that first one completely pointless Meme Emulator posted:What did the fake wano ending for PW4 end up being? Act 1: mostly the same Act 2: Seeing the news of Luffy's capture Bartolomeo, Cavendish and Sabo come to Wano to help. Katakuri breaks Luffy out of the prison ostensibly to both gently caress over Kaido and bring him to Big Mom (they never team up in this version). Meanwhile Sengoku contacts Kuzan and sends him, Smoker, and Tashigi to discreetly help as well because gently caress Kaido. Act 3: Big final 3 way battle where it becomes apparent the reason all these characters showed up was so you could have your choice of one of 18 characters for the final level. Blackbeard shows up and reveals he teamed up with Kaido to do.... something. Kaido is the final boss and retreats for the time being. Presumably they didn't want to show him being beaten outright because nobody at the time knew if that was even possible, similar thing happened with PW3.
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Aug 20, 2022 20:04
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Mirello posted:this is such a loving pain in the rear end. 8 nerds popping in to "WELL ACTUALLY, THE SUBREDDIT IS BAD" I dont give a poo poo. I don't want to waste my time and copy and paste the panels and reupload them to imgur. that's why I linked there. for this, I'm called a fool. Sir this is a Wendy's
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Aug 20, 2022 20:26
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Why is this thread melting down so hard over one lame chapter
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Tolth posted:At this point I feel like Yamato as a character was specifically designed to cause every single member of the One Piece fandom to be mad in one way or another.
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Aug 20, 2022 20:32
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Nuebot posted:Why is this thread melting down so hard over one lame chapter I think it's that some people had a lot of problems with Wano, and this chapter being the end was the straw that broke the camel's back and it's clashing with this thread's usual weird thing that if you dislike literally anything in One Piece you hate the whole series (not defending the reddit guy, he sucks)
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Hey did we ever find out what Smoker's message to Luffy was? I was starting my reread of water 7 and Aokiji said he got a message from smoker and I don't think it ever got resolved. Starting off like this is kinda bumming me out lol
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MoonCrab posted:Hey did we ever find out what Smoker's message to Luffy was? I was starting my reread of water 7 and Aokiji said he got a message from smoker and I don't think it ever got resolved. Starting off like this is kinda bumming me out lol It was too stupid to mention.
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Aug 20, 2022 20:41
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Here I'll post them:      Now they're not on Reddit so we can talk about One Piece and not about Reddit
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Aug 20, 2022 20:44
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i really dislike the colourations
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Blockhouse posted:I think it's that some people had a lot of problems with Wano, and this chapter being the end was the straw that broke the camel's back and it's clashing with this thread's usual weird thing that if you dislike literally anything in One Piece you hate the whole series Yeah this was were I was at. There were a lot of individual little things that I've been overlooking because the major beats were still landing. Hell even in this chapter I was ready to let Yamato go because momo as little brother was cute and the captains being dumbasses was funny.
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Terper posted:Here I'll post them: are you a child. d o you need such basic things explained. i understand this is a comic book however i would assume you are an adult and have the ability to read and comprehend at a level high enough to understand what you are looking at here.
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Aug 20, 2022 20:56
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can't believe the latest chapter really ended with Luffy giving up on finding the One Piece
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Aug 20, 2022 21:08
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Terper posted:Here I'll post them: I let out a hearty lol at the circled torch Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees
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Aug 20, 2022 21:09
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Isn't this just a stupid translation issue? It is the exact same line as "Oden was born to boil"/"It wouldn't be Oden if it wasn't burned", however with the difference that Oden is understood by an english reader to be the type of food, but Kurozumi is not translated into charcoal so far. So you have to present the line differently in english, leading to the implied context of referring to the entire clan, a context which is not there in the original japanese. Is any japanese reader reacting to this line the same way?
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Aug 20, 2022 21:21
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I think I liked One Piece better before it had a huge fandom, the manga gets better every day but the fans are just fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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Aug 20, 2022 21:24
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Terper posted:Here I'll post them: lol this s some dumbass zodiac poo poo
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Aug 20, 2022 21:40
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the 100% clear intent is kurozumi orochi, you were born to burn. these guys are fuckin psychos
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doing the koos/smg post but about why the guy called charcoal was born to burn
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hosed up that Sukiyaki intended for his son to be boiled to death
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Eiba posted:Yeah, actually thinking about it, that line could be salvaged pretty easily. "This Kurozumi was born to burn," would have no issues and still be a pretty awesome gently caress you to Orochi. From what little I know of Japanese the original probably just said "Kurozumi Born Burn" because everything else is juts implied in Japanese, so the original could be about Orochi in particular, even if it's ambiguous. Japanese speaker seems to confirm it's referring really just to Orochi 
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Should’ve said it to him as he was burning imo and then cut off his head herself, would’ve been sick
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ah okay so once again it's just fan translations being lovely and sparking a lot of arguing over nothing
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Aug 20, 2022 21:59
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hatty posted:Just reading the manga I didnt feel any Yamato hype until I caught up and started reading this thread, this feels like a self inflicted wound by the fandom i would concur with this tbh. i really do not agree that Yamato was "super built up" to join, either. every time he threw out the "i'm joining" line it seemed to get little real attention, i think it was in oda's plan always to not have them join this arc
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Mirello posted:this is such a loving pain in the rear end. 8 nerds popping in to "WELL ACTUALLY, THE SUBREDDIT IS BAD" I dont give a poo poo. I don't want to waste my time and copy and paste the panels and reupload them to imgur. that's why I linked there. for this, I'm called a fool. shut up bitch
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tbp posted:i would concur with this tbh. i really do not agree that Yamato was "super built up" to join, either. every time he threw out the "i'm joining" line it seemed to get little real attention, i think it was in oda's plan always to not have them join this arc i think its only really the implementation people are particularly bothered by. At least based on me reading the whole thread response yesterday because it was my last day at work so why wouldn't i
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Jose posted:i think its only really the implementation people are particularly bothered by. At least based on me reading the whole thread response yesterday because it was my last day at work so why wouldn't i to me it felt pretty natural though. yamato watches momonosuke and the scabbards completely out of their depth for the most part against one singular soldier, meditates on the idea for a few days, and decides to stay, giving an alternative reason because momo explicitly screamed about feeling guilty if he were the reason yamato had to stay. it's a white lie because he wants to protect wano
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Terper posted:I mean who can blame us when we got content like this This was the moment that sold me on Yamato
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tbp posted:Japanese speaker seems to confirm it's referring really just to Orochi I thought everyone knew this already at this point Last night a lot of us didnt, myself included
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I thought it was pretty obvious with the picture of a burning Orochi right there and everything, but people like to go off
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tbp posted:to me it felt pretty natural though. yamato watches momonosuke and the scabbards completely out of their depth for the most part against one singular soldier, meditates on the idea for a few days, and decides to stay, giving an alternative reason because momo explicitly screamed about feeling guilty if he were the reason yamato had to stay. it's a white lie because he wants to protect wano i guess that there is no internal dialogue about it its just a sort of one panel and done? that said i haven't reread the chapter yet i'm waiting for the official scan now
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Jose posted:i guess that there is no internal dialogue about it its just a sort of one panel and done? that said i haven't reread the chapter yet i'm waiting for the official scan now they also said that yamato spoke to luffy before leaving. i would be incredibly non surprised if we got a small flashback of that conversation where he explicitly spells it out "hey i'm going to stick around for momonosuke"
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tbp posted:to me it felt pretty natural though. yamato watches momonosuke and the scabbards completely out of their depth for the most part against one singular soldier, meditates on the idea for a few days, and decides to stay, giving an alternative reason because momo explicitly screamed about feeling guilty if he were the reason yamato had to stay. it's a white lie because he wants to protect wano I think if any of that was in the story, that would be fine. But it's not. If that was the intent, then I believe there'd be even a slight implication this was the case as Oda is not exactly a subtle storyteller. As it is what you have is basically headcanon that tries to make sense of a thing that's just suddenly dropped in and moved on from.
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Cat Machine posted:Have TCB failed us…? idts, its just an awkward line to translate. it's a pretty explicit call to "i'm oden and i was born to boil", but in orochi's case, his given name doesn't work for the uh, death pun quite the same. so hiyori uses the family name which is "charcoal" to get the same effect. i do'nt think oda would throw away one of the most consistent and important themes in the entire story for the sake of One Cool Line, but reading through the posts in this thread it's weird how little credibility some readers seem to give him lol
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Blockhouse posted:I think if any of that was in the story, that would be fine. But it's not. If that was the intent, then I believe there'd be even a slight implication this was the case as Oda is not exactly a subtle storyteller. As it is what you have is basically headcanon that tries to make sense of a thing that's just suddenly dropped in and moved on from. i dont think its subtle though. like, sincerely, to me this was the blatantly obvious chain of events. i am actually more confused that the rest of you seem to not be concluding something similar, it's making me feel a little nuts
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Nuebot posted:Why is this thread melting down so hard over one lame chapter Its genuinely crazy. There's been significantly worse chapters and worse writing failures, even in this arc. I can't understand how this is the moment where people realise the Orochi poo poo is problematic. He's been written terribly throughout the entire arc and he was presented from the beginning as inheriting his family's evil traitor bastard vibes. He's clearly the worst part of Wano and it somehow took till now for a bunch of people to realise the writing around him was weird!
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tbp posted:i dont think its subtle though. like, sincerely, to me this was the blatantly obvious chain of events. i am actually more confused that the rest of you seem to not be concluding something similar, it's making me feel a little nuts i don't think you're wrong but i think all of that could have fit in the chapter is the issue
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