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Actual engineering fails from the original Groverthread: Tried to cheap out on the foundation in a swamp: Grover posted:My concrete guy told me it would be OK if we put down some pea gravel, so I go and buy a $400 truckload of pea gravel and we put it down on all the mud, stake off all the heights for concrete and lay down rebar… and the city comes out and fails it! Tells me the ground is far too weak and the pea gravel is illegal and has to be removed. Also, because of the problems, I would have to hire an engineer! So, I hire an engineer and he comes out and tells me we have to dig 18” deeper, widen the trenches to 36” wide and pour in #57 stone and build up wood molds the whole way around for the concrete- I’m about in tears at the point, but we work out an alternate plan where instead of dumping $1500 worth of stone in, I’d add $500 worth of stone, step the foundation and an extra layer of block at the deep parts instead instead- I pay the engineer to come out the the whole day and watch us dig so he can probe the ground and approve it and we can immediately dump in wheelbarrows full of rocks before the ground seepage turns it into muck that wouldn’t support the house. Because of the weather and having to work around predicted rainstorms we ended up working Christmas eve and the day after Christmas! FINALLY we get the foundation done, 2 weeks of hell later and $8000 over-budget. What a way to start! I got the under-house pluming laid and approved by the plumbing inspector, though, which made us at least feel a little better. Grover posted:Also at this stage, we discovered that the 100’ fiberglass tape measure that I used to square off the foundation stretched about ¾” over 50’ and had f’ed up our foundation pins, making the one wall of our house 1.5” shorter than the other, The original thread has most of it's pictures recovered now from waffleimgs now, here's some sterling work practices from the man himself 
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OMFG I forgot about the concrete stuff. No way what he eventually got agreed upon was right. That's a mess. And also lol that he though a 100' tape wouldn't stretch that much. This is one of those things that you know about when you know what the gently caress you're doing, and there are simple and accepted methods to making sure you are in fact close enough. It's pretty new tech kinda poo poo, so I get he hadn't heard about it, but we follow this method that some crazy dude named Pythagoras came up with involving triangles and it loving works every time. Amazing.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:
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I think I posted in this thread about my stupid back room, which the previous previous owner built a over a patio instead of a proper foundation. It was falling off the house, so I paid $3500 this spring to get it piered under the far end to hold up the frame. Pictured: my stupid back room Well, now it's falling off in a NEW way: the ground underneath the patio is sinking, so now I have to pay probably another $3500 to get it foamjacked or something because look at this bullshit. I loving HEARD this crack from the other room while I was working.   Pictured: something else I will probably have to pay an additional $3500 to fix once everything is stabilized. Also, I think a snake came in through this gap. Bonus if anyone recognizes the logo on my leggings.
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I'm really sorry whatever that was didn't work for you, but it's hard to say what went wrong or needed to be done without knowing where you are in general. Different places (that have different low temperatures/frost lines) have wildly different requirement for things like this.
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Benagain posted:Lol what's up middle of Iowa alum buddy. That was fast. I wonder if we know each other? Motronic posted:I'm really sorry whatever that was didn't work for you, but it's hard to say what went wrong or needed to be done without knowing where you are in general. Different places (that have different low temperatures/frost lines) have wildly different requirement for things like this. What's went wrong is that the loving previous previous owner actually extended the patio to build out another foot or so without putting any rebar or anything to connect them, so that stayed up as the piers are under it, and the rest of the patio sank during the dry of summer. It'll rise up again once things start getting wetter. This is in Missouri, btw.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:That was fast. I wonder if we know each other? Not that I actively post in this thread normally, but '07 here too.
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Ha! What are the odds? Turns out that, yes, I do know Benagain (in an extended friend-of-a-friend, 21 mutuals on facebook kind of way). 2009 here, so it's possible all three of us know each other.
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The only thing deader and gayer than these here forums is our alma mater
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moonmazed posted:that ceiling shelf owns What are the odds that it's in there with drywall anchors? Also is it just me or does the stairway look like it's about a foot wide?
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:That was fast. I wonder if we know each other? That's not how you keep "the rest of the patio from sinking", but it's still an improper foundation. There's not really a long term fix for your certainly unpermitted addition other than tearing it off. It's not large enough to be worthwhile to support it while a new foundation is dug and installed. It's certainly possible, but....yeah...no. I'm sure you'll be able to find more people with more magical solutions willing to take your money in the mean time (like foamjacking), but you should probably not keep throwing good money after bad here.
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My mom had a similar problem with a similar room (also in Missouri.) She ended up having the room taken away and an addition put in with a bedroom, a closet and a second bathroom.
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At the bare minimum I would remove that side of the wall and do proper foundation under it. I'm also going to guess that you have all kinds of water going under that existing 2" concrete pad, and that would absolutely need to be addressed. Make sure whoever comes up to do the repairs is licensed and insured.
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Honestly if I have to rip this room off I feel like I might as well fill all the cracks with spray foam to keep out the snakes and not bother fixing anything while I save up. Also, this room is a big reason why I picked this house out in the first place so I am quite irate about this.
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Motronic posted:I'm really sorry whatever that was didn't work for you, but it's hard to say what went wrong or needed to be done without knowing where you are in general. Different places (that have different low temperatures/frost lines) have wildly different requirement for things like this. I thoroughly enjoy your posting so please don't take this as a dig, but apologizing for not being given enough information to provide unsolicited diagnosis/advice is just classic Motronic. Never change!
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:Honestly if I have to rip this room off I feel like I might as well fill all the cracks with spray foam to keep out the snakes and not bother fixing anything while I save up. More like fixer downer :-(
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Neco posted:More like fixer downer :-( Next thread title
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:If nothing about the house tips him off, if he ever sees the neighborhood around groverhaus he'd understand quick. People pay a lot of money to not have to look at non-Euclidean barns. Speaking of tasteless garage protrusions https://www.reddit.com/r/garageporn/comments/wwvmzh/my_garage_with_house_attached 
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Enos Cabell posted:Battlemech parking? RVs, usually
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Enos Cabell posted:Battlemech parking? Everyone needs a car to drive; even the very tall
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MetaJew posted:Speaking of tasteless garage protrusions Would you rather look at that or a boat or rv parked outside 11.5 months of the year? Also drat I would like a big rear end garage.
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StormDrain posted:Would you rather look at that or a boat or rv parked outside 11.5 months of the year? Not an empty quote. The staggered front isn’t to my taste, but I don’t find it as polarizing as some of you seem to. I’d prefer it all out to the furthest point and get that extra foot or whatever on the right side, too, though.
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Darchangel posted:Not an empty quote. The staggered front isn’t to my taste, but I don’t find it as polarizing as some of you seem to. I’d prefer it all out to the furthest point and get that extra foot or whatever on the right side, too, though. I know there are schools of thought on this, but I feel like garages are utilitarian enough that they have a minimum level of being ugly. There's only so much you can do to make a giant vehicle door look good, so if you're making it part of the front facade, you're already giving in to function over form somewhat. Aesthetically, it doesn't seem much different than having one living/sitting room in your house and orienting it to the TV. Of course there are uglier ways to do it, but some people (not that there are many or any in this thread) seem to think it's gauche for any space to reflect its function, which just seems silly.
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That house would be half as ugly if they'd kept the garage roof from protruding higher than the rest of the roof.
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SpartanIvy posted:That house would be half as ugly if they'd kept the garage roof from protruding higher than the rest of the roof. I get what you're thinking here, but I don't agree. There is no way to make that kind of massing not look like poo poo unless you are hiding the fact that 50%+ of the floor space is garage and most of it is in front of the actual house. This is why places with sufficient land/lot sizes often put garage doors on the sides(s) and install "normal" looking windows along the front. It takes away the perception (well, reality) that you're looking at a storage barn with living quarters attached.
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MetaJew posted:Speaking of tasteless garage protrusions I like their landscaping though
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I’ll come out and say I’m fine with a garage with attached house, but I’m a weirdo maker-type who likes cars and building stuff, so workspace is a good thing to me. That said, a normal garage for daily vehicles and a separate workshop would actually be my preferred layout. Also my wife’s, which is not a trivial factor.
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Darchangel posted:I’ll come out and say I’m fine with a garage with attached house, but I’m a weirdo maker-type who likes cars and building stuff, so workspace is a good thing to me. That said, a normal garage for daily vehicles and a separate workshop would actually be my preferred layout. You've either never tried working in an attached garage or aren't doing things like welding, grinding, etc. You don't want to be doing any amount of that in an attached garage. Detached workshops are table stakes for any kind of hot work.
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Motronic posted:you're looking at a storage barn with living quarters attached. Honestly it would look better styled as an actual barn.
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Motronic posted:You've either never tried working in an attached garage or aren't doing things like welding, grinding, etc. You don't want to be doing any amount of that in an attached garage. First off he definitely is. It's documented. Also come on. Any amount? Didn't we just chat about fud and all or nothing in another thread?
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StormDrain posted:First off he definitely is. It's documented. I didn't say "can't". I say "don't want to". And I stand by that. Your idea of cleanliness and what you want to smell inside of your home may be different than mine.
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If only there was some way to ventilate a garage. Like having a wall that can be almost entirely removed or something.
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