One Piece Manga Thread: oda called the wrong arc whole cake island

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Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

CharlestonJew posted:

Crocodiles secret is he has a tiny penis and Ivankov saw it

i think ivankov could fix that also

# ? Sep 3, 2022 00:28

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# ? May 24, 2024 18:21

Silver2195: Apr 4, 2012

Endorph posted:

i think ivankov could fix that also

Come to think of it, Ivankov is yet another of the characters with Devil Fruits that make them effectively better doctors than Chopper.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 00:42

skipmyseashells: Nov 14, 2020; Can't post for 27 hours!

Silver2195 posted:

Come to think of it, Ivankov is yet another of the characters with Devil Fruits that make them effectively better doctors than Chopper.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 00:55

Crosspeice: Aug 9, 2013

Well it's pretty obvious who will cure Luffy's incurable disease that Roger died from.

That's right, Law.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 01:25

Violen: Jul 25, 2009; ohoho~

laws going to transfer it into chopper

# ? Sep 3, 2022 02:38

Rody One Half: Feb 18, 2011

Mihawk's mini-boat might have seastone, letting him go over the calm belt, is the boring answer.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 02:42

Eiba: Jul 26, 2007

ThingOne posted:

Ivankov threatened to reveal some secret he knew about Crocodile during Impel Down. Which, now that I think about it, would mean he was threatening to out Crocodile

If the theory is right, I'd have to assume Ivankov was bluffing. Crocodile may be insecure about it, and Ivankov was exploiting that insecurity, but if push came to shove he wouldn't make good on that threat.

Not sure how much better that makes it, but I agree that it would seem out of character for Ivankov to actually hurt someone in that way. It might be in character for Ivankov to make someone sweat about it though, especially someone like Crocodile.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 03:13

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

Wii Spawn Camper posted:

Given these facts, it�s pretty obvious that Croc had a nose job that went horribly wrong, but gave him that cool scar. Croc is embarrassed so he tells people a cool story about getting it while fighting Whitebeard, but Iva was one of the nurses so he knows the truth. Croc later got it fixed by better doctors but he�s still ashamed.

Croc's original nose looked like a red ball, the kind a clown of the sea might have..... :aaa:

# ? Sep 3, 2022 03:25

Terper: Jun 26, 2012

skipmyseashells posted:

Iva was the only person to fight Magellan and get away, real stepper

tbf Ivankov was bodied by Magellan, just managed to recover and get away

Which technically every named character who fought Magellan did :v:

# ? Sep 3, 2022 04:27

MechanicalTomPetty: Oct 30, 2011; Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

Aprops of nothing, "Crocodile One Piece Woman" is like #4 on google search recommendations. :lol:

It might also be worth noting that there is official art of Croc as a lady that Oda drew as like an SBS joke or something. Looks a bit like Izou honestly, just with a big-rear end scar across their face.

Eiba posted:

If the theory is right, I'd have to assume Ivankov was bluffing. Crocodile may be insecure about it, and Ivankov was exploiting that insecurity, but if push came to shove he wouldn't make good on that threat.

Not sure how much better that makes it, but I agree that it would seem out of character for Ivankov to actually hurt someone in that way. It might be in character for Ivankov to make someone sweat about it though, especially someone like Crocodile.

My crackpot take on this crackpot theory is that they changed their gender for some entirely pragmatic or petty reason and don't really see it as anything more than a disguise or something. The real secret is why they decided to do something like that at all - maybe he was running from the WG or maybe he was pulling a Buggy and trying to weasel their way out of a deal gone bad.

I'm also not sure how much better that would make it but its something at least. Break week makes me think about this poo poo way more than I probably should.

MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Sep 3, 2022

# ? Sep 3, 2022 04:38

Eiba: Jul 26, 2007

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

My crackpot take on this crackpot theory is that they changed their gender for some entirely pragmatic or petty reason and don't really see it as anything more than a disguise or something. The real secret is why they decided to do something like that at all - maybe he was running from the WG or maybe he was pulling a Buggy and trying to weasel their way out of a deal gone bad.

I'm also not sure how much better that would make it but its something at least.

Oh, like Crocodile is secretly a princess running from his family's influence, and it's the identity, not the gender, that Crocodile is worried about and Ivankov is threatening?

Yeah, I could see that. That would be good. It'd have to be something big he was running from, not something petty at this point. I don't think he'd be worried about a bad business deal now that he has this much power and influence.

I don't know how likely any of this is, but if it were true I'd like it.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 04:44

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

It might also be worth noting that there is official art of Croc as a lady that Oda drew as like an SBS joke or something. Looks a bit like Izou honestly, just with a big-rear end scar across their face.

Here's a fun observation - both Luffy and Garp have big scars under their eyes. People have noted that Dragon has a tattoo on his face that kind of fills that pattern.

But as long as we're talking about it, Crocodile also has a big scar under his eyes. And Garp says Dragon is Luffy's father - as far as I'm aware, Garp himself never says that Dragon is his son.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 05:05

Funky Valentine: Feb 26, 2014; Dojyaa~an

Crocodile and Dragon met at Roger's execution, really hit it off.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 05:30

Waffleman_: Jan 20, 2011; I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

We literally see Luffy get his scar in chapter 1, it's not hereditary.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 05:37

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Funky Valentine posted:

Crocodile and Dragon met at Roger's execution, really hit it off.

Crocodile is notably only depicted from behind at Roger's execution.

Waffleman_ posted:

We literally see Luffy get his scar in chapter 1, it's not hereditary.

...I mean, fuckin' duh, but like, symbolism,

# ? Sep 3, 2022 05:39

Funky Valentine: Feb 26, 2014; Dojyaa~an

It would be weird for Luffy to be Dragon's son but for Dragon not to be Garp's son seeing as Luffy is the spitting image of young Garp if he was less ripped (Garp and Dragon do have a very passing resemblance though, mostly in the brow.)

# ? Sep 3, 2022 05:52

Nighthand: Nov 4, 2009; what horror the gas

Clearly the secret is that croc is Luffy's Dad and dragon is his mom.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 06:03

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Funky Valentine posted:

It would be weird for Luffy to be Dragon's son but for Dragon not to be Garp's son seeing as Luffy is the spitting image of young Garp if he was less ripped (Garp and Dragon do have a very passing resemblance though, mostly in the brow.)

What I was implying was that maybe Crocodile was Garp's kid, and Dragon is Garp's son-in-law, in the context of this crazy theory.

It's fun to think about!

# ? Sep 3, 2022 06:17

YggdrasilTM: Nov 7, 2011

Clearly there is no secret at all and It was justa a throwaway excuse created by Oda to male Crocodile behave and it will never be used again.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 06:28

Darkoni: Dec 28, 2010; You do not look terribly noble and yet I feel troubled, attracted, bewitched.

Crocodile's real name is Alligator and he is super ashamed

# ? Sep 3, 2022 06:32

Drakkel: May 6, 2007; IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!

Funky Valentine posted:

It would be weird for Luffy to be Dragon's son but for Dragon not to be Garp's son seeing as Luffy is the spitting image of young Garp if he was less ripped (Garp and Dragon do have a very passing resemblance though, mostly in the brow.)

There's a theory that Dragon isn't actually Garp's son but his son-in-law and just took his wife's family name. The main hints are that Garp himself has never referred to Dragon as his son, only describing Luffy as "The Son of my Kid" in a way that kinda deliberately makes it unclear which parent he's talking about. Other people have said it but it's always in a "Wait if Luffy is Garp's grandson and Dragon's son then that must mean...." kinda way. Also there's that time Luffy saw a picture of Dragon for the first time and his first reaction was to point out how they don't look anything alike.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 06:41

Bleck: Jan 7, 2014; No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

YggdrasilTM posted:

Clearly there is no secret at all and It was justa a throwaway excuse created by Oda to male Crocodile

Yeah, exactly!

# ? Sep 3, 2022 07:01

IceBorg: Oct 23, 2012; I KINDA DOUBT THAT!

Croc was just really short and Ivankov made him taller.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 08:14

Lord_Magmar: Feb 24, 2015; "Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"

I mean, if we're talking Ivankov. Do recall one of Ivankov's attacks is a forced gender change (admittedly one that makes the victims happy). I don't wholly buy Ivankov would not threaten someone with such a secret.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 11:31

Jerusalem: May 20, 2004; Would you be my new best friends?

The secret is that Croc was born with one of those bananas on his head like the Gators in Arabasta had, and is really self-conscious about it.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 12:09

Gyges: Aug 4, 2004; NOW NO ONE
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Rody One Half posted:

Mihawk's mini-boat might have seastone, letting him go over the calm belt, is the boring answer.

It's actually a semi-submersible, where the coffin is the only part above the water. Below is a fairly large ship crewed by the mandrills from his island. It can cross the calm belt with ease because Mihawk is on board and none of the shrimp sea kings there can handle him.

# ? Sep 3, 2022 13:44

AtomikKrab: Jul 17, 2010; Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Gyges posted:

It's actually a semi-submersible, where the coffin is the only part above the water. Below is a fairly large ship crewed by the mandrills from his island. It can cross the calm belt with ease because Mihawk is on board and none of the shrimp sea kings there can handle him.

I was about to say myself that Mihawk could just cleave any sea king that tried to stop him

# ? Sep 3, 2022 14:17