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Comparing any comedy to S2 of Arrested Development is unfair. That’s the funniest television has ever been, with maybe the greatest ensemble cast in the history of TV. But I agree they could move some stuff around, maybe turn down the cutesy-adorkable “gurl-frend!” kinda interplay and just tell more “jokes” and sight gags based on her being a hulk.
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Bust Rodd posted:Comparing any comedy to S2 of Arrested Development is unfair. That’s the funniest television has ever been, with maybe the greatest ensemble cast in the history of TV.  You're not wrong - it's a 10-ton hammer in comparisons.  I rank any season of Curb higher but that's just personal preference for long ball Larry
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Sep 22, 2022 17:43
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Community, Crazy ex-girlfriend, What we do in the shadows... There's plenty of better comedies, but on Marvel scale She-Hulk is pretty good.
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Sep 22, 2022 17:47
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Super Deuce posted:And as far as vapid goes, I'm referring to the shallowness of all but two characters in the show. They're all flat shallow pieces hitting the exact same note. Nikki we've seen a bit more and, sure, she's capable at her job. However she has the same obsession with appearance everyone else has in the show. I get that it's a theme here, but quite literally everyone involved has an obsession with Jen's (and their own) appearance including her. There has been zero departure from it, yet, making the show feel bland in a lot of regards. Some women like fashion and make-up and I am fuming
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Sep 22, 2022 17:55
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adhuin posted:Community, Crazy ex-girlfriend, What we do in the shadows... Yeah I agree, I'm a fan of Shulk but it's only like an 8. Just simple silly casual fun, with some light feminism themes, superhero stuff and marvel cameos. I'd compare it to like, a goofy adult swim cartoon rather than Schitt's Creek or Broad City.
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Sep 22, 2022 17:56
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Rarity posted:Some women like fashion and make-up and I am fuming I wonder why they're so obsessed with their appearances??? Now let me show you my ten page screed on how I can tell how shallow a woman is based on the type of effort she puts into her looks
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Sep 22, 2022 17:58
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Super Deuce posted:And as far as vapid goes, I'm referring to the shallowness of all but two characters in the show. They're all flat shallow pieces hitting the exact same note. Nikki we've seen a bit more and, sure, she's capable at her job. However she has the same obsession with appearance everyone else has in the show. I get that it's a theme here, but quite literally everyone involved has an obsession with Jen's (and their own) appearance including her. There has been zero departure from it, yet, making the show feel bland in a lot of regards. lol "yeah she's shown to be extremely capable but she also likes to look good???"
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Sep 22, 2022 17:59
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So yea, bad faith readings are the gimmick here. Cool.
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Sep 22, 2022 18:03
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Super Deuce, who are some female characters in media that you do like?
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Sep 22, 2022 18:03
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kazil posted:lol "yeah she's shown to be extremely capable but she also likes to look good???" Now, now, remember the rules of the Pinched Pee-Pee game. Women who clearly put an effort into their appearance are vapid sluts. However, women with so much as a hair out of place are gross and monstrous. In the Pinched Pee-Pee game women cannot win. Ever.
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Sep 22, 2022 18:04
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Nikki is the one that gets Wong in and introduced to Jen. Nikki is the one that gets the settlement between Mr. Immortal and his ex-spouses. Nikki is the one that gets Jen a meeting with the super exclusive costume designer. Hell, she even speaks Chinese. But sure, she's vapid.
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Sep 22, 2022 18:06
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Super Deuce posted:So yea, bad faith readings are the gimmick here. Cool. Sorry friend, you used the misogyny word without realizing what it was and the bat signal went out
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Sep 22, 2022 18:11
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Bust Rodd posted:Super Deuce, who are some female characters in media that you do like? Are you honestly asking for a binder full of women? Alright, I guess. Since I've mentioned this show is littered with Tom Haverfords, on Parks and Rec every character is good except Leslie Knope, so that would mean Ann, April, and Donna from the main list, as well as a host of the recurring / side characters. Let's jump to Star Trek. Literally everyone across all shows pre-Discovery, and a couple later such as certain episodes with Tilly, Detmer, and half of Georgiou. In Picard, while a departure from the character previously established modern Seven is interesting but while I can't say the plots she's involved in are good, she has character. Lower Decks sucks a lot, but Tendi is nice. I really like the entire cast of SNW. Party Down is an ensemble show, probably my favorite. Casey and Constance are both superb. Curb was mentioned. Cheryl and Susie are perfect. As well as... well basically everyone. I honestly can't believe that people are reading "the show is full of one note vapid characters" as "only the women on the show are vapid". Especially considering I already explained what I meant by it with examples of men on the show that also lack interest and depth. Kaedric posted:Sorry friend, you used the misogyny word without realizing what it was and the bat signal went out I think it's more that people just really can't take that people don't like things they like. Yes, misogynists call women vapid just for being women. Curiously, that's clearly not what I did, though. Context matters. It's not an indictment of certain characters sexes on the show. It's about the writing of the characters on the show. They're nearly all the same. Super Deuce fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Sep 22, 2022 18:14
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Rarity posted:At this point in the MCU's lifespan I just don't bat an eyelid when someone shows up with superpowers. What's that you're immortal yawn. Yeah you've got super strength big whoop, you and half of Manhattan. You can fly who cares come back when I get bitten by a radioactive someone that gives a gently caress I bet also having the Avengers save the world made it alot easier for random powered people to come out. At least you'd get the benefit of the doubt as a maybe super hero instead of torches and pitchforks. The Avengers are the Will and Grace of metahumans.
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Sep 22, 2022 18:21
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I, uh, loved this episode. 10/10. No notes. Please don't pinch my peepee. (The best part of the episode was Jen eating the candy off of candied nuts.) live with fruit fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Sep 22, 2022 18:23
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Nikki is a paralegal that is punching way above her weight; if someone calls her vapid, I simply cannot take their opinion seriously.
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Sep 22, 2022 18:28
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Super Deuce posted:Are you honestly asking for a binder full of women? I'll admit I'm being a little hard on you, but it's just funny to me that in a show that's about how people get judged only on their appearances, which you admit you recognize as a theme, you're judging the characters based only on their appearances. Like literally you say Nikki is capable at her job, but since considers appearances to be important too, she's vapid. There's a reason these characters are so focused on how other people see them, and it's because they are aware of people judging them exactly the way you're doing, and that's funny to me. Like Pug, Pug isn't a sneakerhead because he's just so vain, he wants to use them to show off his status and success as a shortcut to respect and acceptance. (i'm reading into it a bit there, but I think that fits with how he's been shown to be both ambitious and slightly unsure of himself) XboxPants fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Sep 22, 2022 18:28
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Why did Jonathan need to be resuscitated? What did they do to that poor groomsman? lol DJ In-Ched-ible Hulk and Nikki's fake profile was into Bigfoot, bitcoin, and UFOs lol
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Sep 22, 2022 18:32
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There's an irony in how mad the chuds are that Daredevil wasn't in this episode and how Daredevil is probably going to help Jen take down some chuds when he does show up.
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Sep 22, 2022 18:36
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if Daredevil and She-Hulk hook up and become an in-universe power couple I will recant every trespass against Lord Mickey and his golden idols and I'll watch The Eternals and mail him $8 (the cost of a matinee at my local theater).
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Bust Rodd posted:if Daredevil and She-Hulk hook up and become an in-universe power couple I will recant every trespass against Lord Mickey and his golden idols and I'll watch The Eternals and mail him $8 (the cost of a matinee at my local theater). Feige has said that there's going to be a street level focus and Jen doesn't seem like the type to go off into space.
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Firebert posted:Nikki is a paralegal that is punching way above her weight; if someone calls her vapid, I simply cannot take their opinion seriously. Oh yeah. In that world if I had a super-person problem I'd hire Jen just to get Nikki on the case. It was three eps back but she also pulled Wong with a book cheesecake pic.
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Everyone posted:Oh yeah. In that world if I had a super-person problem I'd hire Jen just to get Nikki on the case. It was three eps back but she also pulled Wong with a book cheesecake pic. Mr. Immortal might not be so quick to recommend GLK&H.
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live with fruit posted:Mr. Immortal might not be so quick to recommend GLK&H. Maybe not, but he got out of that situation with much of his money and without going to prison for multiple accounts of fraud. Also, one of the fun bits of this show is Jameela Jamil's Twitter celebrating Titania.
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Everyone posted:Maybe not, but he got out of that situation with much of his money and without going to prison for multiple accounts of fraud. Yes but he had to make eye contact with a woman.
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Vintersorg posted:Like have any of you seen what's out there lately? This show looks dire lol
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When does Titania make a heel turn to good guy, thus paving the way for Jameel Jamil and Iman Vellani team ups? I’m imagining a two-parter where they just have a fun day at Six Flags.
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Marsupial Ape posted:When does Titania make a heel turn to good guy, thus paving the way for Jameel Jamil and Iman Vellani team ups? I’m imagining a two-parter where they just have a fun day at Six Flags. She'll team up with Jen to take down King Chud.
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Super Deuce posted:Well, first, nobody is acting as a "bitch" except for, I guess the bridesmaids. Though I wouldn't use that word, they certainly were horribly rude in the manner someone who uses terms like that may. what is happening in this thread
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Sep 22, 2022 19:20
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Jim the Nickel posted:Lmao, my comment about the pacing was something I've brought up in this thread before, things just Happen so quickly, then move immediately to the next plot point without any room to breathe. There's not a single reason on planet earth that this episode should only be 24 minutes long so why not spend more time on making me care about the characters? At least for Patti it was clear that she was faking her collegiality with She Hulk due to all the people that were watching and taping her. Titania showed up because she is an antagonist and has real reasons to not like She Hulk. The story ends with her losing her fight and embarrasing herself. Why am I explaining things that happened on screen.
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Sep 22, 2022 19:23
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Shageletic posted:This show looks dire lol It takes a bit to get going but a few episodes in you start connecting with the cast and everything they present. Already been greenlit for season 2. Everyone is amazing in it.
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Vintersorg posted:It takes a bit to get going but a few episodes in you start connecting with the cast and everything they present. Already been greenlit for season 2. Everyone is amazing in it. I mean I'll give it a shot based on the cast....eventually. But I didn't like the trailer. I just thought it was funny you were using it as primae facie evidence that She Hulk blows, when to me it looks like very different shows.
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live with fruit posted:She'll team up with Jen to take down King Chud. I’m waiting for friendless chuds to complain about female characters resolving conflict by talking and understanding as ‘not realistic’.
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In the absence of any explanation for Titania's powers, I simply choose to go with her comic book origin until I hear otherwise, which is DOOM decided eh, gently caress it, let's give this rando broad from Denver superpowers. DOOM is never wrong.
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Shageletic posted:At least for Patti it was clear that she was faking her collegiality with She Hulk due to all the people that were watching and taping her. You’re right, my bad for expecting a clear motivation, “she is an antagonist” is enough.
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Sep 22, 2022 21:24
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She literally said that she's mad at Jen for "stealing" the She Hulk name back.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:She literally said that she's mad at Jen for "stealing" the She Hulk name back. And then showed jealousy at Jen basically getting fame she doesn't want by accident while Titania has to grift non-stop for even a bit of it. Just because she doesn't have an origin for her powers doesn't mean she doesn't have motivation. Those two things are not synonyms, even if one usually feeds the other.
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Marsupial Ape posted:When does Titania make a heel turn to good guy, thus paving the way for Jameel Jamil and Iman Vellani team ups? I’m imagining a two-parter where they just have a fun day at Six Flags. drat you. Now I want Jameela and Iman as Big Titania and Little Titania.
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tsob posted:And then showed jealousy at Jen basically getting fame she doesn't want by accident while Titania has to grift non-stop for even a bit of it. Just because she doesn't have an origin for her powers doesn't mean she doesn't have motivation. Those two things are not synonyms, even if one usually feeds the other. Considering that the shadow bad apparently wants to steal Jen's Hulkness, gotta think Titania got her powers from some sort of black market SSS or something.
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I don’t give a poo poo how she got her powers, so idk where that’s coming from? I dont think it’s a stretch to wonder why she attacked Jen in court in the first place? Why did she trademark the name? What has she actually done besides show up and “be an antagonist”? Nothing so far on the show has given me a reason to care and she just keeps showing up, looking hot and being like “I hate you.” I still stand by they’re not bothering to give most characters on this show, Titania included, interesting or compelling motivations, and some people itt don’t really seem to be bothered by that.
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