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Super Rad posted:Maybe Oda didn't dwell on it long enough but I thought he did a good job of showing early on that the Waiters/Pleasures are just absolute cannon fodder mooks and the Gifters are much stronger comparably. Thematically, Smile was also important since it ended up playing against Kaido when Tama took control of them - i.e. the inhumane shortcuts Kaido was taking to build his army ended up biting him. kaido's crew is about 30,000 strong and the smiles have a success rate of 10%. 3000 guys that at minimum are as strong as batman or alpacaman and at best are as strong as holed em actually sounds pretty intimidating. big mom's crew by comparison only seemed like it had a couple hundred guys on that level. Endorph fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Sep 26, 2022 |
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Eiba posted:I mean, what more is there to say? There were some scars left on the country that would never heal. Killer is also stuck like that for life. It's horrible and will always be a reminder of Kaido's monstrosity. Idk, maybe that Marco, Law, and Chopper (the world's greatest doctor) could team up and develop a cure? I guess any chance of that happening went out the window with the ice oni virus thing, now THAT's a plot beat that was probably unnecessary in the grand scheme of things. Just let Chopper get a clean W over a named opponent, IMO. skipmyseashells posted:vegapunk is gonna end up a better doctor than chopper too
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Endorph posted:yeah even completely random gifters were at least mild speedbumps for zoro, and a few of them at once were an actual threat. its a pretty good way of beefing up a huge crew, its not like mooks that get a bum fruit are any weaker, theyre just laughing a bunch, and a gifter is at worst a pretty strong mook and at best like a mid-rank marine, depending on luck of the draw with how the animal manifests. the whole idea was to mass produce them and just feed them to every guy in his crew without a devil fruit.
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the smile thing is definitely being saved for vegapunk to fix it and maybe give chopper a bottomless cotton candy bag
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Cat Machine posted:this post makes me want a one piece RTS or grand strategy game I'd main the Amazon Lily faction, it's what Oda would want.
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Violen posted:the smile thing is definitely being saved for vegapunk to fix it and maybe give chopper a bottomless cotton candy bag
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Smoker rules, reread Punk Hazard and really appreciated this moment he had with Luffy. Minor thing I totally forgot about - Luffy said he ran so fast he lit the ground on fire. Then Oda eventually did a callback with Gear 5 Luffy revving up and running on air, lighting it on fire. 
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Cat Machine posted:this post makes me want a one piece RTS or grand strategy game
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brutal break week. or masterful pacing from oda? one of the hypest new arcs of my life
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I got the tude now posted:brutal break week. or masterful pacing from oda? one of the hypest new arcs of my life We've entered a new era of nanomachine breakposting - Vegapunk's sexy body is nanomachines and Blackbeard stole some since he grew up in a snowy country which must be Egghead island.
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Fecha posted:Big Mom, Kaido and Blackbeard have armies, and Shanks faction is just a squad of like 5 people that you micromanage Kaido: Big numbers and high strength in exchange for severe loyalty issues and infighting Big Mom: Unquestioned loyalty and huge self-sufficiency but huge internal admin issues due to fear culture, big reliance on forming unsteady alliances with other factions Luffy: A faction that gets good results with small numbers but can be easily derailed by stupid random events like your most powerful commander getting lost when you send him to do something or your leader getting stuck in a chimney for a dozen turns
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Why would they have quirks, this is One Piece not My Hero Academia
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Every time Alpacaman is mentioned I think we're talking about Alpacacino, only to instantly be disappointed. You're too good for your filler fate, Alpacacino.
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BoosterDuck posted:why did kaido not just teach his crew to use haki more instead of feeding them smile fruits since his strongest crewmates were real devil fruit users I thought it was kaidos way of halfassedly fulfilling his dream of a crew of zoans. Blackbeard has a fruit collection goal too, and hes going out there and doing something about it. I dont see Kaido kidnapping Marco and all the best zoans.
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kaido just wanted to have a gigantic army of df users to wage war against the world government with & was also seeking the ancient weapons to aid with that but only got as far as 'conquering wano because it seems to be important' there and didn't really have any leads beyond 'the samurai probably know something useful regarding the weapons/one piece'
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lih posted:kaido just wanted to have a gigantic army of df users to wage war against the world government with & was also seeking the ancient weapons to aid with that but only got as far as 'conquering wano because it seems to be important' there and didn't really have any leads beyond 'the samurai probably know something useful regarding the weapons/one piece' Well they had Jack somehow finding underwater Wano. IDR if they knew Pluton was there tho.
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If Vegapunk ends up being one of the good guys, then they'll be a huge admirer of Dr. Chopper, the brilliant doctor who is a reindeer that ate the human-human fruit. If Vegapunk ends up being one of the bad guys, they'll be most scared of Dr. Chopper, and will have carefully researched a perfect weapon designed to immediately incapacitate or kill.... a Tanuki.
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What about if no sense of right and wrong
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Waffleman_ posted:What about if no sense of right and wrong Posting this again for you because it's too great not to!
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Super Rad posted:Still crazy to me that the plot line of the Wano citizens who were poisoned by the Smile runoff and leftover fruits was completely dropped. The Yamato flashback fills me with a hope that he does return to this at some point, cause yeah. It's really wild that we don't get at least a couple panels that update us on what the status of those Smile users are. Or the status of the flora, which it seemed implied the plant admiral visiting at least helped reset. Or that Sanji didn't cook for all the starving people before ditching. Yea yea
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think yamato will join in the epilogue or the final war or something which is fine yamato IS a strawhat though. not up for debate!
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Star Platinum posted:Hey, Oda's not THAT old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta41xU-tkFA
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Look what came in today!  
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*the sound of  flying away into the sunset*
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Some notes about Blackbeard. His Bounty, 3,996,000,000, is composed of numbers divisible by 3. Blackbeard has 3 heads on his flag, and there's a lot of theories that he's actually a triplet, or that he has the Cerberus Fruit or whatever. If you take the first three digits of his bounty and divide them by 3, you get 133. What happens in Chapter 133? The very first introduction of the Blackbeard Pirates.  Incidentally, in the very next chapter, we get this exchange between Luffy and Sanji.   Granted, given the context, it's probably more likely to be a reference to the well-known saying (of questionable truth) about how you're not supposed to fall asleep in a snowstorm or something cause you'll never wake up. But it's interesting that in the same arc that Blackbeard was introduced, we hear about people from the land of snow not sleeping (as we know, Blackbeard doesn't sleep), and how Luffy heard this in a tavern (where Shanks and his crew often hung out, making it very likely that Luffy heard it from them as he did a lot of stuff).
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Oda does it again. Though genuinely, while I think Oda's skill at foreshadowing is often overexaggerated Blackbeard is a character where I wouldn't be surprised if Oda had a strong idea of what his deal was going to be from his first appearance and that he's been laying seeds for it from the beginning.
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One of oda's best qualities as a world builder is patience. Like with a lot of things, I think he's got Blackbeard basically fully planned out since he was introduced, and managed to keep it under lid for 20 years, showing only enough details to get people excited about the mystery but not put the pieces together. The Sun God Nika reveal was an example of that, although Who's Who's infodump felt a bit out of place, there were enough pieces by the end stretching back all the way to Skypeia that at least one person was able to put the pieces together to figure everything out except for the exact name of Luffy's fruit, but for everyone else to just wonder in mystery and enjoy the ride.
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Yeah, I can belive that Oda had the idea for Gear 5 for a while but he couldn’t figure out a way to namedrop Nika sooner.
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Also amazingly Oda actually managed to make a character match their initial silhouette, given how Van Augur actually does have that hat + gun.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Also amazingly Oda actually managed to make a character match their initial silhouette, given how Van Augur actually does have that hat + gun. on the other hand iunno who his twin on the left is
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Endorph posted:on the other hand iunno who his twin on the left is Look just be happy it's not the Shichi Warlords where everything's Mihawk with a different hat. 
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Endorph posted:on the other hand iunno who his twin on the left is Blackbeard Pirates didn't even loving have a swordsman until Shiryu joined their crew.
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Endorph posted:on the other hand iunno who his twin on the left is Proto Shiryu. Because he has a sword I think
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Proto Shiryu. Could also be Lafitte with his top hat and cane. But the correct answer is probably that Oda hadn't designed the full concepts yet.
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Honestly I've been reading and thinking back on the previous arcs of One Piece and it's all so loving good. Like Skypiea's been on my mind a lot cause I started on Dressarosa and saw Bellamy & the statue of Noland -> thought about Jaya -> thought about Skypiea -> remembered the loving tragic friendship of Montblanc Noland and Kalgara and how it ties into the whole Skypiea arc, with Montblanc Cricket helping the Strawhats get to Skypiea to prove its existence, and Wiper desperately fighting not just to reclaim his homeland but also vindicate the name of Noland (whose legacy was destroyed and accomplishments thrown into doubt due to a natural disaster). It's even got themes that tie into the overarching Celestial Dragon and Im thing because a large part of the conflict has to do with gods (and self-proclaimed gods) and overthrowing/overcoming them. Seriously, the Noland and Kalgara thing is just sad cause both of their last thoughts were them showing concern for one another (Noland wondering where Kalgara and his tribe had vanished to, and Kalgara worrying about Noland being able to find them), and both of them ultimately died without every having been reunited. It would only be 400 years later, when Noland's descendants had mostly pretty much died in failed attempts to vindicate their family name, and the Shandia had pretty much decided on a last-effort attempt fight to the death to reclaim their land, that their regrets would finally be somewhat put to rest.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Honestly I've been reading and thinking back on the previous arcs of One Piece and it's all so loving good. And that's why it whips that Luffy's big dramatic display of resolve in that arc isn't "I'm going to beat Enel and save the island”, it's "I'm gonna ring that bell!”
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Cat Machine posted:I never even considered that Vegapunk explaining devil fruits is probably the scientific link Chopper would need to cure a fake devil fruit illness What I really want to see is Vegapunk's reaction to the Rumble Ball, which is honestly a wonder of science. Could you imagine any of the Mithological Zoan users with one of them?
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Scallop Eyes posted:What I really want to see is Vegapunk's reaction to the Rumble Ball, which is honestly a wonder of science. Could you imagine any of the Mithological Zoan users with one of them? knowing how chopper gets treated vegapunk is going to do everything and get all the credit "oh yeah, i invented that poo poo like 60 years ago. noob"
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