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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Orange Devil posted:

Yeah true.

Still though, compare China's approach to problems: make a plan and start doing *something* quite quickly, then learn and adapt the plan as further info presents itself

Meanwhile in the West we love to research and analyze everything and write another report about it and then eventually conclude that it is all quite complicated and some scientists still might have some minor disagreements (or be paid to have major disagreements that are bullshit) or well you know we still don't know everything so let's commission another research we can then analyze and write a report about and nobody ever loving *does* anything.

The Chinese way feels a hell of a lot more human.

yeah again thats not an accident. it's because people with power dont actually want to fix that stuff because to them those aren't problems (whatever the specific example). it's their way of saying no without having to own up to saying no. the west isn't afraid to jump straight into it if it's something actually powerful people care about. see: the energy crisis in europe, or the cares act

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Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

I like the indians in the comments @ the indian government because the map is wrong.

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there

Orange Devil posted:

Yeah true.

Still though, compare China's approach to problems: make a plan and start doing *something* quite quickly, then learn and adapt the plan as further info presents itself

Meanwhile in the West we love to research and analyze everything and write another report about it and then eventually conclude that it is all quite complicated and some scientists still might have some minor disagreements (or be paid to have major disagreements that are bullshit) or well you know we still don't know everything so let's commission another research we can then analyze and write a report about and nobody ever loving *does* anything.

The Chinese way feels a hell of a lot more human.

ask a liberal to choose between Christ and Barrabas, and he’ll respond by forming a committee to research which considerations should be taken into account. q

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Orange Devil posted:

Yeah true.

Still though, compare China's approach to problems: make a plan and start doing *something* quite quickly, then learn and adapt the plan as further info presents itself

Meanwhile in the West we love to research and analyze everything and write another report about it and then eventually conclude that it is all quite complicated and some scientists still might have some minor disagreements (or be paid to have major disagreements that are bullshit) or well you know we still don't know everything so let's commission another research we can then analyze and write a report about and nobody ever loving *does* anything.

The Chinese way feels a hell of a lot more human.

u might say that the CPC cross the river by feeling the stones

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

yah the tree thing has the same framing as everything else, a desire to ridicule and to see failure. It's a big part of humanity that will benefit from stopping the desertification, with no real ill effects.

So success is vital. Why not frame it like it's a good project instead of some weird monstrous thing, to plant trees.

Cause China is the enemy of humanity even though they are 1/6 of humanity

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

the USA has 0 miles of highspeed rail, and you wanna talk about some other people somewhere else planting trees?

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

IF YOU FIND THIS POSTER OUTSIDE BYOB, PLEASE RETURN THEM. WE ARE VERY WORRIED AND WE MISS THEM
the us has good intentions and a pure heart, tho.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Someone repost that video of the robots planting the trees fighting desertification. That poo poo is like distilled hope for humanity.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
https://twitter.com/LiYuan6/status/1580479752715976704?s=19

Apparently, this is making the rounds on Social Media. I doubt the CCP is gonna risk getting bodied, only to be told by western media, "See? We told you Zero COVID doesn't work."

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Interesting note here is Nissan has the option to buy back the business within six years.

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Pro Covid demonstration

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

Forceholy posted:

https://twitter.com/LiYuan6/status/1580479752715976704?s=19

Apparently, this is making the rounds on Social Media. I doubt the CCP is gonna risk getting bodied, only to be told by western media, "See? We told you Zero COVID doesn't work."

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-health/587989-man-sets-himself-on-fire-after-angry-rant-about/


quote:

“He was screaming about mandates,” Lydia O’Connor told the Herald Sun. “He was screaming ‘No vax ID,’ and throwing books.”


Same energy

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Forceholy posted:

https://twitter.com/LiYuan6/status/1580479752715976704?s=19

Apparently, this is making the rounds on Social Media. I doubt the CCP is gonna risk getting bodied, only to be told by western media, "See? We told you Zero COVID doesn't work."

it would be great if China expelled all foreign journalists since all they do is lie anyway. what’s the point to letting the NYT set up shop in Beijing or HK

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Forceholy posted:

https://twitter.com/LiYuan6/status/1580479752715976704?s=19

Apparently, this is making the rounds on Social Media. I doubt the CCP is gonna risk getting bodied, only to be told by western media, "See? We told you Zero COVID doesn't work."

https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1373408946455769089

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Orange Devil posted:

Yeah true.

Still though, compare China's approach to problems: make a plan and start doing *something* quite quickly, then learn and adapt the plan as further info presents itself

Meanwhile in the West we love to research and analyze everything and write another report about it and then eventually conclude that it is all quite complicated and some scientists still might have some minor disagreements (or be paid to have major disagreements that are bullshit) or well you know we still don't know everything so let's commission another research we can then analyze and write a report about and nobody ever loving *does* anything.

The Chinese way feels a hell of a lot more human.

"move fast and break things" is only for a private sector playing with infinite fake money printed for them by the us government

Chonchon
Dec 16, 2013


heh.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Orange Devil posted:

Meanwhile in the West we love to give money to rich people and hope they fix things, if they don't that only means we aren't giving enough money yet

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.
Votes not leaders.

Then what are votes for?

copy
Jul 26, 2007

DesertIslandHermit posted:

Votes not leaders.

Then what are votes for?

votes just to make voters feel good like in the west

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
im a very sincere proletariat therefore we should try bougie electoralism which worked so well for the indian working class

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe

fart simpson posted:

also i love capitalism now:

Capitalism is when people are paid for their work. Checkmate CPC failures.

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


Forceholy posted:

https://twitter.com/LiYuan6/status/1580479752715976704?s=19

Apparently, this is making the rounds on Social Media. I doubt the CCP is gonna risk getting bodied, only to be told by western media, "See? We told you Zero COVID doesn't work."

drat its crazy you can click on this link and see a man burn hisself to death in open air where his body is incinerated to a point that his bones are ashes basically. its very risky for the helicopter flying democracy lover because nobody else will discuss this pro democracy suicide. so glad we have resistance against COVNAZIS.

https://twitter.com/songpinganq/status/1580523978384642051?s=20&t=oO0fxR_6_lKck5H0BuBYVw

crazy, drat

Telluric Whistler has issued a correction as of 19:07 on Oct 13, 2022

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

https://twitter.com/gajumaru0608/status/1580413580792721412

a metaphor for the USA's relationship with east asia...

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Anyone can print those banners. You spend some time in China you'll see a bunch of them.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
anyone can print any banners anywhere

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Orange Devil posted:

Yeah true.

Still though, compare China's approach to problems: make a plan and start doing *something* quite quickly, then learn and adapt the plan as further info presents itself

Meanwhile in the West we love to research and analyze everything and write another report about it and then eventually conclude that it is all quite complicated and some scientists still might have some minor disagreements (or be paid to have major disagreements that are bullshit) or well you know we still don't know everything so let's commission another research we can then analyze and write a report about and nobody ever loving *does* anything.

The Chinese way feels a hell of a lot more human.

the chinese way is someone in Authority says "we are doing this now" and then the organization is just doing that now, regardless of if it was ready or not

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
one of the better ways to get things done tbh especially on an organizational level

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

It's good and bad. I would say there is substantially less real delegation of duties in chinese business structure and I guess probably all chinese organizational structure. We would call it 'micromanagement', and that's on top of the "boss said to do it so we have to make it work ASAP" sort of thing.

Nothing is alien from, say, American business of course - it's just a difference of degree and frequency. It's often more organized in a military sense maybe. I often find it frustrating, it requires really good leaders.

American business has its own frustrations but it feels less strictly hierarchical (lol)

Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.
western journalists have been churning out negative coverage of the green wall for decades, it's impressive how much we hate those trees

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

By China actually doing something about Climate Change it directly contradicts our own position of theres nothing we could do. So not only must it be badz it must actively make the problem worse unlike bruing more natural gas and building bigger and bigger cars

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I don't think the trees are for climate change though it may help

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
according to the American paper council, we are planting more trees than we need for all the paper products we use

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Big Paper

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

indigi posted:

I don't think the trees are for climate change though it may help

they are trying to change the climate of china, maybe not the entire planet.....yet

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

indigi posted:

I don't think the trees are for climate change though it may help

Its the general idea that them doing something puts lie to the one we say that there isn't and while its mainly to combat desertification, planting a bunch of carbon sinks while capitalism rushes to get rid of them at least is better than waiting for some magic technology that will take carbon out of the air more efficiently

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



indigi posted:

I don't think the trees are for climate change though it may help

Desertification is climate change.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

indigi posted:

I don't think the trees are for climate change though it may help

You're right, they're trying to prevent the biosphere collapsing

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

DesertIslandHermit posted:

The Red-Green alliance we need!

(the red is communism)

there's a "watermelon environmentalist" expression where I live, where a certain party would run on a green platform and branded as such, but if you take a closer look they're mostly just red :v:

they've since rebranded as socialists tho

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

Truga posted:

there's a "watermelon environmentalist" expression where I live, where a certain party would run on a green platform and branded as such, but if you take a closer look they're mostly just red :v:

they've since rebranded as socialists tho

Our green party also gets called watermelons for being red underneath.

they are liberals who are called this by the same kind of people who think democrats are communists

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Telluric Whistler posted:

https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/inbound-travel.html

You shouldn't need PCRs for green code entry now, just RAT and vaccination record. PCR tests are done by the government for free at testing centers, just have to sign up via the web and show a text message or screenshot of the booking number. Ideally you need an HK number but that can be arranged when you arrive.

To your other question, I think you can stay in any hotel or home stay now. If your final destination is the mainland, I'd check if you even need to stay for the 0+3 "self monitored quarantine" - typically they only required travelers to stay for the mandatory quarantine before.

i appreciate the advice but now that im in hong kong its kind of irrelevant my current apprehension is whether im going to be allowed on the plane into china tomorrow as far as i can tell one pcr test at the airport before i go will do it but this flight is also definitely overbooked and i have no idea how or whether theyll screw me over

ive noted with a great deal of irritation that due to how expensive covid tests are in the us and the stricter standards in general it might have been cheaper for me to just plan on doing the hong kong quarantine from the beginning

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