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Waffleman_ posted:Oh poo poo I just realized This rules
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YggdrasilTM posted:??? But all of those things are literally just common manifestations of strong will across the entire history of anime and manga. You've always had characters without any super natural power just being like "I detect a strong killing presence from over there" or being just so darn strong and powerful in their resolve that normal humans wilt away in shame. Haki is genuinely just putting a name to a bundle of classic tropes that show up in almost any shonen series 
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Oct 17, 2022 00:08
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I hope it is Burgess vs. Jinbe, just so Burgess can go on and on about how strong he is and how big his muscles are and then Jinbe starts effortlessly flipping him about and using leverage to completely humiliate him.
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Jerusalem posted:I hope it is Burgess vs. Jinbe, just so Burgess can go on and on about how strong he is and how big his muscles are and then Jinbe starts effortlessly flipping him about and using leverage to completely humiliate him. So, the inverse of that "get rotated idiot" meme, basically
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anime was right posted:so for usopp, he has an opponent he cant run from I still think Burgess is gonna be Zoro’s opponent and Sanji gets Shiliew because Zoro’s thing is being the sword guy but it’s also being the super buff guy and Sanji has…history…with the Clear Clear Fruit on top of still being better than Luffy with some parts of Observation Haki. Then again I guess there’s equal odds that it could be Zoro/Shiliew and Sanji/Burgess for those exact reasons so they can have one last battle at a disadvantage to push them even further beyond, since it’s possible being super buff also increases your facetanking skills to Kaido/Big Mom levels and Sanji can’t do Ryou yet.
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Can't remember his name but that one mod that would probe anyone arguing against his "Haki just means willpower it's like nakama where the translators are forcing a word its not a real thing to like ki or whatever" thing, every time it comes up I think about how hilarious and stupid that was.
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socialsecurity posted:Can't remember his name but that one mod that would probe anyone arguing against his "Haki just means willpower it's like nakama where the translators are forcing a word its not a real thing to like ki or whatever" thing, every time it comes up I think about how hilarious and stupid that was. zorak
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I hope it’s just a huge 10v10 fight and there are no 1v1s at all and the Blackbeard Pirates get blown away by a huge combined attack that they can’t counter because they can’t work together as closely Pirates Docking 10.
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Super cool chapter, but I'm on dressrosa in my reread and i had to do a double-take What if the tiger guy that can turn invisible is the one who saw "Sabo" kill Cobra??? wait, no, he got killed during Wano nvm MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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That would be, uh, rather difficult
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MorningMoon posted:Super cool chapter, but I'm on dressrosa in my reread and i had to do a double-take Blackbeard sent him to HFIL during the wano intermission
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jinbei, one of the most recognizable beings on the entire planet: thankfully i can wear a tropical pattern shirt to blend in
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tbp posted:jinbei, one of the most recognizable beings on the entire planet: thankfully i can wear a tropical pattern shirt to blend in that could be any dad
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The witness was probably a confused Celestial Dragon. It has to be an Aegis Zero who killed King Cobra in the middle of Sabo's attack on the Reverie. Specifically Kaku.
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I don't know why people just accept that Cobra is dead. If the Alabasta story taught us anything, it's that everyone around the royal family gets at least one fake death. And if they are trying to say Cobra got blown up then there's no way he's dead. Alabastans are apparently immune to explosives.
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Gyges posted:I don't know why people just accept that Cobra is dead. If the Alabasta story taught us anything, it's that everyone around the royal family gets at least one fake death. And if they are trying to say Cobra got blown up then there's no way he's dead. Alabastans are apparently immune to explosives. Maybe Pell flew in and took the explosion for him, he was due a death by explosion anyway.
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Pell survived cause he's a government spy He also killed Cobra.
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Bon Clay disguised as Cobra is dead
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I mean the Government having an issue with Kobra was set up for a while before. We learned that his ancestors were the only royal family that didn't want to become Celestial Dragons that the Dragons still hold a grudge against them to this day about, we saw Im looking at a picture of Vivi, and Kobra went to their headquarters openly declaring he was gonna ask them about the ancient weapons/ponyglyphs. It seems pretty obvious that they'd want him gone and the fact that the Revolutionaries happened to attack while he was there kinda kills two birds in one stone. Get rid of a guy they already hate and whose asking too many questions while framing the Revolutionaries for murdering one of the few Good Kings.
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there isn't going to be a confused witness, it's pretty obviously a deliberate cover-up.
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Nuebot posted:But all of those things are literally just common manifestations of strong will across the entire history of anime and manga. You've always had characters without any super natural power just being like "I detect a strong killing presence from over there" or being just so darn strong and powerful in their resolve that normal humans wilt away in shame. Haki is genuinely just putting a name to a bundle of classic tropes that show up in almost any shonen series Observation Haki is Mantra. It was used by a 9 years old girl on Skypea.
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The way Law just cancelled out the effects of a Devil Fruit by using strong enough haki made me have this crazy idea where there's some sort of haki field across the entire planet and Devil Fruits are used to tap into that haki field to manifest their effects. So someone could generate/manipulate enough haki to disrupt the effects as well. Well I didn't really think this idea through at all but I'm really interested to hear what the actual workings behind Devil Fruits are, hopefully when Vegapunk spends a whole chapter explaining!
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Nuebot posted:But all of those things are literally just common manifestations of strong will across the entire history of anime and manga. You've always had characters without any super natural power just being like "I detect a strong killing presence from over there" or being just so darn strong and powerful in their resolve that normal humans wilt away in shame. Haki is genuinely just putting a name to a bundle of classic tropes that show up in almost any shonen series "observation willpower" No Wave fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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Law was obviously using haki to coat his white blood cells so they could better fight the... virus? Bacteria? The birdcage never bothered me because didn't doflamingo have conqueror's haki? Thats supposed to be super double extra special compared to normal haki. Though does it actually do anything besides knock dudes out and make animals chill out?
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It lets you punch really loving hard
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This might be the first time we see Haki doing this? I've always imagined, from what we've been told, it could prevent an effect but didn't consider it could be used to shake off an effect. Just never crossed my mind. This is probably where a lot of us in this thread are coming from. Has a lot of implications now that we know it works like this though, especially with the darkness fruit.
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I mean, haki can be used to punch logia users in their elemental forms, makes sense that it can combat other devil fruit effects when applied properly.
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Darkoni posted:Law was obviously using haki to coat his white blood cells so they could better fight the... virus? Bacteria? Conquerer’s Haki can normally subdue living creatures significantly weaker than yourself, and also hitting things super hard (and possibly armamenting yourself too with it?) but it seems to only be something you can do if you can already wield ryou and if Doflamingo could do that he probably could have attacked Boundman without his moves bouncing off.
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Lpzie posted:This might be the first time we see Haki doing this? I've always imagined, from what we've been told, it could prevent an effect but didn't consider it could be used to shake off an effect. Just never crossed my mind. This is probably where a lot of us in this thread are coming from. Has a lot of implications now that we know it works like this though, especially with the darkness fruit.
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i'm with alkanphel now. there's a Haki field. But whats perpendicular to H? Do we gotta use the righthand rule??
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Lpzie posted:This might be the first time we see Haki doing this? I've always imagined, from what we've been told, it could prevent an effect but didn't consider it could be used to shake off an effect. Just never crossed my mind. This is probably where a lot of us in this thread are coming from. Has a lot of implications now that we know it works like this though, especially with the darkness fruit. I wanna say the first hint of this was when Doflamingo declared that Law's powers wouldn't work on Vergo because his Haki was too strong, and then it did cause they presumably just massively underestimated how strong Law was. It was first shown, I believe, at Wano when Law wasn't able to teleport Kaido or Big Mom around or slice them up like he could to random mooks. Semi-related but I feel like a lot of people look at Haki like it's some Unbeatable Magic Power and act like it's a plot hole when one character is able to beat another character, like people who keep declaring it's a plot hole that Shanks lost his arm to some random sea monster in East Blue. I think the whole point of Haki is that it's a part of a person's mind/body and thus is subject to things like Exhaustion, Surprise, etc. Several of Luffy's big fights have had moments where his Haki fails him cause he's too wounded/exhausted to keep it up. Whitebeard probably had some pretty Godlike Haki but by the time he died he was an old man in bad health who'd already been stabbed numerous times, had his torso filled with magma and half his face burned off, so given that it's probably not surprising that Blackbeard's crew were able to finish him off by just shooting him a bunch.
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Last Celebration posted:Conquerer’s Haki can normally subdue living creatures significantly weaker than yourself, and also hitting things super hard (and possibly armamenting yourself too with it?) but it seems to only be something you can do if you can already wield ryou and if Doflamingo could do that he probably could have attacked Boundman without his moves bouncing off. I'm pretty sure at this point that Haki isn't a thing you do it's a thing you get for being crazy famous. Like, if you look at all of the biggest Haki users in the story they're all crazy famous and Luffy develops Haki almost immediately after breaking out of the hardest prison in the world and directly attacking the marines at the head of the largest pirate army of all time. One of the best parts of this fan theory is that it would mean that Buggy has crazy good Haki, he just has literally no idea how to use it or that it exists in the first place.
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Ace used conquerors haki at age 6
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Ace used conquerors haki at age 6 He was famous for being the hypothetical, non-existent (in the public's eye) son of Roger.
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Luffy shook off Doflamingo's strings, which had previously managed to control one of Whitebeard's generals, the diamond dude, during the war.
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Anyway Haki is just your powerlevel and much like powerlevels it is sorta bullshit and you don't need to worry about it too much.
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Spanish Matlock posted:I'm pretty sure at this point that Haki isn't a thing you do it's a thing you get for being crazy famous. Like, if you look at all of the biggest Haki users in the story they're all crazy famous and Luffy develops Haki almost immediately after breaking out of the hardest prison in the world and directly attacking the marines at the head of the largest pirate army of all time. SyntheticPolygon posted:Anyway Haki is just your powerlevel and much like powerlevels it is sorta bullshit and you don't need to worry about it too much.
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For Shonen in general just "wanting it more" is the biggest powerup one can achieve and Haki is that vibe fairly explicitly.
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