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SyntheticPolygon posted:For Shonen in general just "wanting it more" is the biggest powerup one can achieve and Haki is that vibe fairly explicitly.
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The literal meaning of Haki is "Ambition".
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Oct 17, 2022 11:24
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Spanish Matlock posted:I'm pretty sure at this point that Haki isn't a thing you do it's a thing you get for being crazy famous. Like, if you look at all of the biggest Haki users in the story they're all crazy famous and Luffy develops Haki almost immediately after breaking out of the hardest prison in the world and directly attacking the marines at the head of the largest pirate army of all time.
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Oct 17, 2022 11:34
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The scholars of Ohara were up against Akainu and that guy absolutely "wanted it" more than them. He's pretty intense.
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Oct 17, 2022 11:38
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That's a "correlation does not equal causation" thing. There's no connection between having high Haki and being famous, it's just that people with high Haki/the potential tend to also be the kind of people who become big players in the world. Also keep in mind that Haki is still a thing that needs to be trained.
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Oct 17, 2022 11:40
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The point of Haki nullifying DFs is that it allows Oda to decide if a specific fight should be more DBZ or more JoJo.
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No Wave posted:It's not as simple as "wanting it" because you're left thinking the scholars of ohara just didnt want it enough. This is making me want a sidestory about Nico Olivia and some other Ohara scholars going out onto the Grand Line to do some Indiana Jone poo poo dammit
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Oct 17, 2022 11:47
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The first time Zoro fought mihawk he didnt have willpower. But now his willpower is overflowing.
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Oct 17, 2022 11:51
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Spanish Matlock posted:I'm pretty sure at this point that Haki isn't a thing you do it's a thing you get for being crazy famous. Like, if you look at all of the biggest Haki users in the story they're all crazy famous and Luffy develops Haki almost immediately after breaking out of the hardest prison in the world and directly attacking the marines at the head of the largest pirate army of all time. Actually, Luffy’s haki first manifested in Sabody Archipelago when he tried getting Duval’s bull to stand down and it got blasted by accident. And then in Amazon Lily when Hancock was gonna have her sisters murder Luffy’s new friends because Hancock is kind of horrible. And then in Impel Down on the winter level when he blasts the wolves that are about to pounce on Bon Clay. 
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Last Celebration posted:Actually, Luffy’s haki first manifested in Sabody Archipelago when he tried getting Duval’s bull to stand down and it got blasted by accident. And then in Amazon Lily when Hancock was gonna have her sisters murder Luffy’s new friends because Hancock is kind of horrible. And then in Impel Down on the winter level when he blasts the wolves that are about to pounce on Bon Clay. These were all uses of Conquerors Haki which we all know is the exception to most rules regarding Haki. Luffy had to learn how to use the other two as if they are some kinda martial artes technique. It's just that once you learn how to use Haki it gets stronger the more you "want it". Or you could be like Aisa and have immensely strong observation haki as a young child. There's no strict rules, its the wild west out there.
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Oct 17, 2022 11:58
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Haki is just willpower, except when it isnt. But it's still just willpower.
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No Wave posted:Haki is just willpower, except when it isnt. But it's still just willpower. 
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No Wave posted:Haki is just willpower, except when it isnt. But it's still just willpower. Yup
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The setting of one piece is basically calvinball. it's best not to think about the details.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:These were all uses of Conquerors Haki which we all know is the exception to most rules regarding Haki. Technically it is possible to awaken the other types of Haki(or at least Observation) on your own(Like Koby and Usopp) but using it effectively is another thing entirely.
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vegapunk is going to have a device that can measure haki levels objectively. but the output is so complicated no one else can understand it
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This reminds me that they introduced Gouriki as a power level measurement unit in Enies and never used it again
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It's willpower made manifest as a form of energy, and there are several ways it can be expressed, trained and shaped, including wrapping it around stuff like a physical barrier or just blasting it out into the world.
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Boy you guys would hate Genshin Impact, a setting where sufficient Ambition and Willpower gets you gifted an elemental superpower set by the gods. So that's how I look at it, Haki is just a measure of a person's ambition plus their active willpower to make that ambition a reality. It's the determination to break through the "reality" of how the world currently is to make it what you want to be; fate (Observation), other weaker people's opinions (Conqueror's), or literal superpowers (Armament) be damned. Willpower, I guess, is like a muscle or devil fruit you can Get Stronger with training and real-world experience. That's why Buggy has no Haki we can see: he has great potential, but his only ambition is to trawl the seafloor for petty treasure in relative peace. By other pirate standards in this setting, that's a pretty piss weak ambition. If he had a stronger will and and ambition, he could absolutely take advantage of his falling upwards into global infamy, but he sees himself as a victim to the currents of fate and stronger powers than his own, so that's exactly what happens.
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The real reason why this topic is so controversial is because people wanted more female Law
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Tree Reformat posted:Boy you guys would hate Genshin Impact, a setting where sufficient Ambition and Willpower gets you gifted an elemental superpower set by the gods.
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CharlestonJew posted:The real reason why this topic is so controversial is because people wanted more female Law Verdad.
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lol
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Genshin's visions are tied entirely to how much of a generic NPC a character looks like. Every once in a while someone that came out of their character creation system will have a vision but never the other way around. One Piece haki is magic based on how cool the character is so they don't get stuffed against the other magic powers or gigantic sea beasts. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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Oct 17, 2022 14:21
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Incredible, stealing this 
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I love that panel so much that I had it made into a mug 
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blizzardvizard posted:This reminds me that they introduced Gouriki as a power level measurement unit in Enies and never used it again That was a joke aimed at people who talk about power levels
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Cat Machine posted:I love that panel so much that I had it made into a mug that's a really cool idea
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Cat Machine posted:I love that panel so much that I had it made into a mug haha that's cool
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No Wave posted:Haki is just willpower, except when it isnt. But it's still just willpower. Haki is Spiral Power.
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https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1582020384719003648?t=pn8Er-ARS4daWh6TdL2JGQ&s=19 Need this crossover.
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1582020384719003648?t=pn8Er-ARS4daWh6TdL2JGQ&s=19 Oh my god this is why Zhao likes to cook
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Cat Machine posted:I love that panel so much that I had it made into a mug What's the good mug site
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Waffleman_ posted:Need this crossover. Saeko needs to do more comedic beatings to the rest of the group in the next game if she's the Nami analog. 
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Gruckles posted:Haki is Spiral Power. It’s literally this
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Gruckles posted:Haki is Spiral Power.
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Where is the Drill Drill Fruit
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Cat Machine posted:I love that panel so much that I had it made into a mug I like that mug
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Cat Machine posted:I love that panel so much that I had it made into a mug Can you get that with a small angry Nami on the inside of the cup?
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rannum posted:that could be any dad 
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