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A, Look we're getting towards the end now and need to start cashing some of our chips in and actually guiding things instead of constantly trying to maintain stasis. Things are clearly spiraling out of control and this is a great chance to help start sparking an actual revolution and get rid of our spy network. Also our reputation literally doesn't matter if we're going for the 'Adopt Gloria' event since that absolutely tanks your score no matter what as Kayten said earlier in the thread. And if we are going full on revolutionary who could possibly care about what the former nobility thought about "our" house?
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D. We've already humiliated Otton, now let's humiliate more nobles!Kayten posted:Now, It's not really fair for me to work on blind-run-only information like this since I've played through the game bunch of times, but! With The Lotless (our cause is just!), Sophia only got a few people who were arrested along with us. Plus, we focused the feds' attention on us, and helped even more people escape. We had the option to either betray them (the way to join El Ferro if we didn't have good stats), or help them escape (lol Manipulation). As far as I can tell, that was Sophia's first big job for the Secret Chancellery - she was simply too young before that. The reason for that is we didn't get an exposition dump for any other clandestine movement - these let a Brante on each path know what's happening with all three Lots. (I've played one run of the judge's path and another of the priest's, so the LP is still half-blind for me at this point  )
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gonna go against the grain with C, that gets us over the Unrest Barrier to not die at the end of the chapter, but doesn't waste anything we care about (reputation or Tommas) reducing our unrest is pretty risky at this particular juncture, we need to hit 8 before the end of the chapter or at least one of the many people we've entered incompatible conspiracies with will kill us or at least, that's the escape hatch we're closest to, and can drat near lock in right now, for cheap
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Haifisch posted:This reminds me - what's the spoiler policy for this LP? Let’s keep it to “please don’t post anything coming up in the current path without spoilers; please don’t post anything in the other paths we haven’t seen yet at all, unless it comes up in an update”.
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that said, if we think we can crime our way to spy network 8, dunking on the nobles is absolutely the right decision also, snuggling up with the Legions might let us save ourselves by gluing our lips to the overseer's left buttock, so i guess i don't mind D, but i'm sticking with C
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:D. The Legion is a weapon of oppression incapable of doing good things. It can, however, do funny things, such as harassing the nobles instead of commoners. Haifisch posted:D. We've already humiliated Otton, now let's humiliate more nobles!
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D does sound funny.
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So are we now incapable of doing the 'launch a real revolution by ourselves' chapter end, since we showed Felipe our "loyalty"? This effects my decision.
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We need to stay focused on what we can do. Going back to the start of the chapter, the good things we can achieve are based on either having high spy network or really high unrest if we want to revolt. But, we also want to either get the family ennobled, which requires high rep and high wealth, or get a happy family. Importantly, we can get Gloria adopted without the secret plot if we have the family at peace status, so we just need to be on good terms with everyone, no one dead, and high unity. I don't know how Sophia fits into this, as she probably wants blood, but for now, the need to increase reputation and buy time before the revolt kicks off means we probably want to go with D.
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Slightly Lions posted:So are we now incapable of doing the 'launch a real revolution by ourselves' chapter end, since we showed Felipe our "loyalty"? This effects my decision. No-no, we can still do a real revolution if our Unrest goes high enough. We just also qualify for El Ferro’s ending now, if we raise our Spy Network. Griffen posted:Importantly, we can get Gloria adopted without the secret plot if we have the family at peace status, so we just need to be on good terms with everyone, no one dead, and high unity. About that. We could’ve brought the family to peace, and picked this option when it comes up. But. This option needs us to not have a secret plot with either Stephan or Gloria. Which is what I alluded to when the vote came up. We can still adopt Gloria, Stephan’s just not gonna be happy about it.
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Kayten posted:We can still adopt Gloria, Stephan’s just not gonna be happy about it. Oh no. Stephan being unhappy. How awful. 
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Kayten posted:No-no, we can still do a real revolution if our Unrest goes high enough. We just also qualify for El Ferro’s ending now, if we raise our Spy Network. 
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Sir Brante is pioneering some extremely effective tactics. No one can betray you if even you don't know who you're working for at this point!
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t3isukone posted:Sir Brante is pioneering some extremely effective tactics. No one can betray you if even you don't know who you're working for at this point!
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Kayten posted:No-no, we can still do a real revolution if our Unrest goes high enough. We just also qualify for El Ferro’s ending now, if we raise our Spy Network. Cool, in that case C. C'mon, ya'll: let's do this revolution thing for real and also not burn our oldest friend. 
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Slightly Lions posted:C. C'mon, ya'll: let's do this revolution thing for real and also not burn our oldest friend. This right here
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:The Steven Heck method. lmao and also accurate
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t3isukone posted:Sir Brante is pioneering some extremely effective tactics. No one can betray you if even you don't know who you're working for at this point! How can your enemies know what the gently caress you are thinking if you don't even know yourself? Cirno Gambit is the best opening move in chess!
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As fun as D sounds, if we're thinking about endings there's only two real options here. If we want to side with El Ferro, we need that spy network up, which means choosing B. If we want a revolution, we need Unrest up, and we need to choose A. We've been playing all sides for awhile now, and I suspect we're at the point where we have to start committing. Being wishy-washy and going for balance at this point is just going to get our head on a chopping block. And I, for one, think it's time we watch it all burn down. A
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Oct 18, 2022 16:58
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A. Time to give it a good old try, eh?
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yeah okay let's do A
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A for making it out of this alive
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A might as well treat our promises like a queue - first made, first broken!
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This game just went on 50% sale on Steam.ZCKaiser posted:As fun as D sounds, if we're thinking about endings there's only two real options here. Right now, we have the choice between: A: Get Tommas exiled. B: Get ourselves and our agents killed. C: Get a bunch of commoners martyred by Legion. D: gently caress nobles over (in a funny way). Rogue AI Goddess fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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I guess I'll vote D? I don't want to see Tommas hosed over.
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D.
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TheMaskedReader posted:I guess I'll vote D? I don't want to see Tommas hosed over.
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Rogue AI Goddess posted:D gets us closer to one of the endings without harm to anyone we care about. I vote DAs immediately succesful in reaching an ending as A is, I don't like loving over Tommas for it. That would make us his Sophia from The Lotless, except no one forced us to betray him. Which makes it even shittier. The man bought us dinner for crying out loud. Bros for life  Kayten posted:1.21 - A Blast From the Past Pea fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Oct 19, 2022 |
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1.32 - Brante's House of Heresy We take the unique option. Having this choice is our reward for doing the heist with Sophia - otherwise Otton wouldn't have been shamed in the first place.  We keep coming back to this fort, huh.  Captain Guerro has arrived.     How much of that scrappy kid is left in Tommas? How much of the boy who bailed on homework to help him defend it is left in us?  We should hang out with Tommas more so we an at least catch up. We last saw him like three years ago.     You know, thread, I've been too hard on you. We're not a complete failson - we're downright professionals at the sketchy side of things. Shame about the everything else though.    Catches on quick, don't he.   Why you gotta ask that, man. Can't you just appreciate a good thing?    That's a hell of an ask. "Can you lose a few nobles in your mass arrests, and we'll find then in a basement somewhere?"   Oh, without hesitation, huh.  Should've gone for all of them at once instead of spreading it out, would've had fewer stragglers.    Wait, how does that work in terms of Lesser Deaths? Is Moss gonna hang out in family crypts?  I mean, I wouldn't put it past him, to be honest.  I wonder how we got that Rep boost, too. Did Tommas praise our name in noble circles for this? Does nobody outside El Verman and Sophia put any thought into opsec?  Anyway, guess what. As legitimate print shop owners, we're always there for people with legitimate printing needs.    Oh so we do come across Lennart in this path, cool. There's nothing... significant about Lennart's theology. He's as light and inoffensive as a church reformer can be. I can't really come up with an analogous figure during the Reformation. Erasmus? His critiques were pretty mild, but he did a lot of good work beside going "Hey, please, come on, maybe don't?" to the Catholic Church. Lennart isn't much outside of that (and church politics), and absolutely rejects doing anything that might go against the rules of the church, or, Twins-forbid, the Empire. He's basically Mayer Egmont, but for the Priest path.  This is probably as spicy as he gets. Though, to be fair, the church is a very conservative institution.    Ah, it's a "print and delivery" contract.    More of the angry dispossesed would flock to Anizotte.  That could prove very useful to us and like two of our current co-conspirators.    Could get pretty big. -- What do we do with Lennart's pamphlets?  A. Listen, we may not be much for theology, but we're always down for a little more unrest. Print and distribute the pamphlet.  B. Things are perilous enough in Anizotte without angry heretics. Snitch on Lennart to El Ferro.  C. Oh, we could do that, no problem. For a small favour, though. Let us do a little crowd work before the sermon, and we've got ourselves a deal.  You don't often build Theology if you go this route, but it's certainly possible to have high stats outside your main Skills. If we knew anything about church orthodoxy, we could've snitched on Lennart to the Inquisition, and it'd even raise our Rep.
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Ooooh. I think C
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C definitely seems the most beneficial - every choice hurts our rep, and we have willpower to spare.
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Ooh, let's recruit from the crowd!
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C, this feels like a fairly obvious decision
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