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The Lord Bude posted:So the other day I posted this: You know the Intel iMacs with the narrow edges, the industrial design they ran with from... I think 2014 on? I ran one for several years, then took it apart to change its hard drive for a SSD. While in there I noticed there's this hollow plenum inside the chin. Air enters the chin through big round-rect air intake vents on the bottom edge, and exits the chin to the inside of the computer through a dust screen at the top of the plenum. The entire volume of the chin was packed full of matted dust just as you describe. The interior of the computer didn't have much at all. So yeah, Apple really has dust screens figured out, they'll magically prevent huge amounts of dust from coating the actual guts of the computer, but you may have some occasional cleaning to do. (if anyone wants to clean out their thin-edge Intel iMac, you can use a vacuum cleaner's plastic wand extension to suck dust out of those big round-rect holes on the bottom edge of the chin. No need to disassemble anything.)
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The Lord Bude posted:I like to rock out with my dock out. Hiding is for cowards. Yeah this monitor does not lack real estate. I'll never hide my dock. Overall, I'm very happy with the purchase, though I've only been using it for a few days now. I guess everything boils down to: 1) This is the nicest monitor I've ever used 2) I could have spent half the money and purchased a monitor I would have liked about 90% as much 3) That monitor probably would have died after 5 or so years of heavy use, just like the last one 4) This one has worked flawlessly out of the box, and looks great across a number of settings This was a work-related purchase, so cost-over-time was a factor — a big reason I choose MBPs over PC laptops. The upshot: no buyer's remorse, which I can't say about my last car or home purchase. I think now the only non-Apple piece of hardware on my desk is my USB mouse. Apple, make a decent mouse.
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Oct 28, 2022 12:44
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Ok Comboomer posted:Macs should have feature parity with other competing desktop software ecosystems and they should not be grossly outclassed in their ability to effectively and affordably run/host an entire category of extremely popular software Remember when apple claimed performance parity with 3080ti’s and 3090’s? Lmao It’s the megahertz myth all over again
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Oct 28, 2022 12:50
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Lincoln posted:I think now the only non-Apple piece of hardware on my desk is my USB mouse. Apple, make a decent mouse.
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Oct 28, 2022 13:00
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TACD posted:I very much get the impression that the Apple Way™ is to use a trackpad, and if you need or prefer to use a mouse then you get about the same amount of consideration as somebody using last-gen hardware. I'm not sure what Mac users would really need to use a mouse. In CAD software or other software requiring precise cursor input, mice are not optional. To use those programs with a trackpad greatly craters your productivity. But I don't think anybody really runs that kind of software on Macs. There's video games too, but that subject has already been covered earlier in this thread.
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Oct 28, 2022 13:14
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Apple’s never made a power user mouse, we’ve all been using third party ones since the 68K days if one button wasn’t enough. Anyone who spends all day in Illustrator, PS, or InDesign (a lot of Mac users) just buys whatever mouse they like. It’s not that I think Apple is incapable of making such a mouse, but their trackpad story is so much nicer and sells better to the vast majority of their modern users. Mouse users (like keyboard users) are really picky.
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Oct 28, 2022 13:29
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I use a magic trackpad when I’m not gaming whip out my trusty wireless Logitech gaming mouse when I’m playing a game. I just wish someone would make like a brushed metal mouse with saddle brown leather covering on the surface your hand grips. Like the gear shifter in an expensive car.
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Oct 28, 2022 15:10
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The Lord Bude posted:I use a magic trackpad when I’m not gaming whip out my trusty wireless Logitech gaming mouse when I’m playing a game. I just wish someone would make like a brushed metal mouse with saddle brown leather covering on the surface your hand grips. Like the gear shifter in an expensive car. https://www.lunarartefacts.com
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Oct 28, 2022 15:37
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Oct 28, 2022 15:42
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It shouldn't surprise me that Vertu for mouse existed but it still did.
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Oct 28, 2022 15:58
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quote:A CLASSIC TONE WITH A DASH OF HERITAGE. Looks like it also has an aluminium version if you want a lighter weight as well. And they have matching leather mousepads and Qi charging pads. Thank you so much for pointing these guys out to me this is what I’ve always dreamed of.
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Oct 28, 2022 16:23
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Fun little video on this exact mouse for those who care lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R-0tLIRnio
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Oct 28, 2022 20:50
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LTTP but hidden dock with the TinkerTool setting/terminal command to remove the animation is the way
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Oct 28, 2022 23:00
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I never seem to get a response in the monitor thread so I'll try here. I just got a 4k external display for my MBA. Well this is quite an adventure - at first I couldn't see poo poo, so I turned on the display scaling, and I also increased fonts a bit. so I went to the display settings and selected the middle option, which scales to 2560x1440. I really got this monitor for the size, but figured 4k is so cheap so why not. anything else you'd recommend I do in terms of adjusting display settings? this is my monitor https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32un550-w-uhd-monitor
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Oct 30, 2022 01:38
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actionjackson posted:I never seem to get a response in the monitor thread so I'll try here. I just got a 4k external display for my MBA. Well this is quite an adventure - at first I couldn't see poo poo, so I turned on the display scaling, and I also increased fonts a bit. It says it supports 90% of the dci-p3 color gamut, which iirc none of the Airs support except for the Apple Silicon versions, so you may want to set the color profile to that for the expanded color gamut.
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Oct 30, 2022 01:48
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Mister Facetious posted:It says it supports 90% of the dci-p3 color gamut, which iirc none of the Airs support except for the Apple Silicon versions, so you may want to set the color profile to that for the expanded color gamut. is that a macOS setting or a monitor setting? I don't see anything about it in the monitor instruction manual also is it possible to just adjust the text sizes in macOS while keeping the resolution the same?
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actionjackson posted:I never seem to get a response in the monitor thread so I'll try here. I just got a 4k external display for my MBA. Well this is quite an adventure - at first I couldn't see poo poo, so I turned on the display scaling, and I also increased fonts a bit. The way display scaling works on MacOS, if you want maximum crispness you need to pick either the native 4k or the 1080p scaling options.
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actionjackson posted:is that a macOS setting or a monitor setting? I don't see anything about it in the monitor instruction manual You want the ColorSync Utility https://youtu.be/E_b7ZeAagUI https://youtu.be/e0-cJ_Y6_14 I haven't really used it myself, I just found it while exploring other settings for my monitor. It's my understanding that the disc that came with your monitor (or not) has the calibration file for it. Since no one uses cds anymore, you'll probably need the technical page for your monitor on the website or have to search for a custom one. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Oct 30, 2022 |
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Oct 30, 2022 02:31
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The Lord Bude posted:The way display scaling works on MacOS, if you want maximum crispness you need to pick either the native 4k or the 1080p scaling options. does the 2560x1440 that I'm using count? it has the same aspect ratio (16:9) as the default 4k on this monitor (3840x2160) Mister Facetious posted:You want the ColorSync Utility thank you I guess when I thought about 4k I didn't really realize that while it's great for movies or w/e, it makes fonts hella small
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"Looks like 2560x1440" is the sweet spot for macs on 27" 4K monitors, probably works great at 32" as well.
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actionjackson posted:does the 2560x1440 that I'm using count? it has the same aspect ratio (16:9) as the default 4k on this monitor (3840x2160) No it has to be exactly half the native resolution. This is because Mac apps have 2 versions of every graphic, a normal one and one for retina displays where they are drawn with double the pixels. When you select an in between scaling option it does this weird complicated thing to produce it which results in a slight blurriness which some people simply don’t notice and others find intolerable - this is why so many people insist on buying the couple of 5k screens that exist. MacOS really wants you to have either a 2560x1440 screen or a 5k screen in the larger sizes. Macs with built in 4K screens tend to be small enough that you can use the 1080p scaling mode without it looking comically large. A studio display; or an LG 5k screen, or a 27” iMac has a 27” 5k screen which by default has the screen real estate of 2560x1440 (which is the sweet spot for 27”) with perfect crispness.
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Oct 30, 2022 03:01
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Spime Wrangler posted:"Looks like 2560x1440" is the sweet spot for macs on 27" 4K monitors, probably works great at 32" as well. yeah I mean it looks fine to me, I'm hardly a display afficionado though and just do basic computer poo poo, so any tiny differences would never be noticed by me
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Oct 30, 2022 03:19
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That's perfect, zero reason to gently caress with it anymore.
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is the apple 5k display smaller (27") so that you can actually see all the text without having to squint?
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actionjackson posted:is the apple 5k display smaller (27") so that you can actually see all the text without having to squint? It’s 27” yes. So it looks perfect at an effective resolution of 2560x1440. (The pixel density and crispness is so good that you can see things more comfortably than on other monitors)
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The Lord Bude posted:It’s 27” yes. So it looks perfect at an effective resolution of 2560x1440. (The pixel density and crispness is so good that you can see things more comfortably than on other monitors) Yeah my second monitor is an LG 1440p and I kind of covet the Mac 5k screen, not enough to pay for it myself. but the difference is pretty huge in pixel density. I tried a 32" 4k version of the same monitor but the scaling kind of I dunno, made things worse, so I returned it for the 1440 (ymmv). I am glad that apple is supporting high hertz monitors - it's nice having 120 - 165 hz across the board.
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I have a studio display. I’ll take the extra pixel density and crisp proper scaling over extra frames any day.
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The Lord Bude posted:I have a studio display. I’ll take the extra pixel density and crisp proper scaling over extra frames any day. Yeah so would I if I had the extra $1700 CAD. I don't. Not everyone is you. e; that sounded harsh, I'm glad you have the nice monitor. For those looking for an alternative, check 1440p displays. They're not as dense PPI wise, but because you don't need to scale non-integer to my eye they look better than 4k depending on size. And they are cheap and have high refresh/HDR capability. Which the 5k doesn't. squirrelzipper fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Oct 30, 2022 |
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I would definitely take a standard 1440p monitor over a 27” 4K I think. Or even like a 24” 4K screen - then you can scale to 1080p and it wouldn’t look comically big.
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nah 4K scaled looks just fine to 99% of people
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i can't imagine being stuck on a low refresh rate monitor these days my phone, tablet, laptop, gaming desktop + oled monitor all have high refresh rates
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oh one other question, my monitor can do 60 Hz, but the apple display settings only show 30 Hz. apparently this is a known issue. is it because I'm using HDMI (and a mini display port adapter) instead of display port? Or is it actually an issue with MacOS? https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/q44e07/can_i_force_60hz_on_external_display/ https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/123181/force-external-display-refresh-rate I tried the show all resolution modes, and it unlocks "59.88 Hz" (wtf) but then things all become a bit blurry.
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Possibly; or the cable - there are different standards of HDMI cable. Also some monitors are just notoriously screwy with Macs. Windows tries to be accomodating whereas macOS just goes ‘gently caress you, these are the industry standards, I expect you to adhere to them and if you don’t that’s your problem.’
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Oct 30, 2022 17:23
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here is what it looks like in SwitchResX
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The Lord Bude posted:Possibly; or the cable - there are different standards of HDMI cable. Also some monitors are just notoriously screwy with Macs. Windows tries to be accomodating whereas macOS just goes ‘gently caress you, these are the industry standards, I expect you to adhere to them and if you don’t that’s your problem.’ ok, i'm using the hdmi cable that came with the monitor. SwitchResX tells me the 59.88 Hz is the "best resolution" but obviously it doesn't work right. Should I try getting a display port to mini display port cable?
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What model of MBA do you have? And are you using a dock of some kind? The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 30, 2022 |
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The Lord Bude posted:I don’t profess to be an expert on the subject, so maybe wait for some others to chime in, but macOS seems to prefer USB-C for connecting monitors if your monitor has that I would be using that. I have an older one. no display port but it does have mini display port. the monitor isn't fancy either, it has hdmi and display port https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook-air/specs/macbook-air-core-i5-1.8-13-2017-specs.html#macspecs1 is 60 Hz something I would even notice just doing basic computer tasks? I would still be in the scaled 1440p.
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You might not notice 60 vs 144 but I think you’d notice 60 vs 30. I’d be trying different cables first and also ideally using said cables without adapters where possible to eliminate variables. But also look up the specs for your actual mac to see what it’s gpu and ports are actually designed to support. Edit: I’m assuming you can only get 30 to work? A lot of monitors 60 means 59.something so if you’re getting 59.something and you’re worried it’s not 60 don’t be. New edit: Oooh I think I might know what the problem is - with scaled 1440p; in case you didn’t realise your monitor is still displaying a resolution of 4K; it’s just drawing stuff on screen larger as if it was 2560x1440. You need to make sure the gpu on your mac and the ports are actually capable of displaying 4K at 60hz - I had originally assumed you were using a relatively recent computer and this would be the case but if your mac is very old it might not be. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Oct 30, 2022 |
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The Lord Bude posted:You might not notice 60 vs 144 but I think you’d notice 60 vs 30. I’d be trying different cables first and also ideally using said cables without adapters where possible to eliminate variables. But also look up the specs for your actual mac to see what it’s gpu and ports are actually designed to support. I will probably get a display port to mini display port adapter to see if that works, and also then I dont have to unplug hdmi and plug it into the back of my ps4 everytime, i can just use HDMI for the ps4 at all times when I do the 59.88 Hz the fonts get a bit blurry, so that's definitely a no-go. Also I'm not sure what HiDPI is but you can see that the 30 Hz I'm using is HiDPI, and the 59.88 Hz is not (maybe that explains the blurriness). The Lord Bude posted:
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actionjackson posted:I will probably get a display port to mini display port adapter to see if that works, and also then I dont have to unplug hdmi and plug it into the back of my ps4 everytime, i can just use HDMI for the ps4 at all times See my new edit since you posted. Exactly what model mac do you have? Like the year and all. Apple should have spec sheets for older models or else you can Google reviews from the era.
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