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4lokos basilisk posted:i think the op's point was that chinese regulators would gently caress tesla over IF there was a sufficient domestic competitor. and since there is none (idk whether this is true or not), they won't care for now
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Shumagorath posted:Close, but it's more this confounding impression that because US regulation is slow and corrupt that somehow it's automatically better under capitalism with Chinese characteristics. yeah i do not disagree on that one
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Shumagorath posted:Close, but it's more this confounding impression that because US regulation is slow and corrupt that somehow it's automatically better under capitalism with Chinese characteristics. we are talking about discrete sets of regulatory actions Tesla in the us: free to gently caress around on public roads with pre-alpha software and already wracking up a body count. so far nothing has come down or been made public against them other than civil suits Tesla in China: accountable for issues with the vehicles they sell in the country, including a 3km 150kph jaunt leaving multiple people dead. I will be surprised if something does not happen to the foreign automobile company in the next few months the happenings in the US do not affect happenings in China, and vice versa.
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Chris Knight posted:it'll come down to Elon personally walking people out the door naw he's just gonna ghost 'em
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:we are talking about discrete sets of regulatory actions idk if this is really "accountable" if all they have to do is blame the driver and the case goes away to die somewhere. way to early to say if it will stick or not. there have been other cases of tesla failures in china shared in this thread the other thing is that we don't really have native level insight into the (social) media coverage wrt tesla in china. afaik twitter does not exist in china, so for all i know there could be many more hosed up tesla videos around on wechat or weibo or other big chinese platforms. also follows that since we do not consume chinese media in the original language, we do not even know all the stuff their regulators are saying about tesla - we only get a picking of highlights, which may give a wrong impression
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Lain Iwakura posted:i wonder when twitter will reach the point where it loses the team to handle layoffs and offboarding entirely when COVID hit, a friend of mine worked in HR for a travel related company and had to lay off her entire team then she had to lay herself off.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:we are talking about discrete sets of regulatory actions Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:naw he's just gonna ghost 'em they're gonna get miltoned to twitter's boiler room (server room)
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Agile Vector posted:they're gonna get miltoned to twitter's boiler room (server room) one way to get the building literally burned down
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Fart Sandwiches posted:now that’s what I call a race condition I can't believe you're looking at TESLA job ads at this time! Also, lol https://twitter.com/generalslug/status/1591868427932962816
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NoneMoreNegative posted:I can't believe you're looking at TESLA job ads at this time! lmfao i hadn't heard anything recently about newer teslas being as bad as they were a few years ago so i assumed they'd managed to bring quality up but nope, still loving garbage
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Cold on a Cob posted:lmfao i hadn't heard anything recently about newer teslas being as bad as they were a few years ago so i assumed they'd managed to bring quality up but nope, still loving garbage they brought the standards down by loving the car
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NoneMoreNegative posted:I can't believe you're looking at TESLA job ads at this time! https://twitter.com/tomesticderror/status/1591883080343732231
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uh, left rear quarter panel? as in where the charger plug is and has a giant keep out always energized warning?
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Lain Iwakura posted:following up hahahahahaha Edit: wait a minute thats either a fake screenshot or someone unbanned them wrt the out of control tesla, someone in the comments mentioned you can see the brake lights in the cctv footage. rotor fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 13, 2022 |
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hobbesmaster posted:uh, left rear quarter panel? as in where the charger plug is and has a giant keep out always energized warning? what? seriously?
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ryanrs posted:twitter laugh thread getting dark really only a matter of time before poo poo starts to get actually bad and not hilarious bad
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rotor posted:really only a matter of time before poo poo starts to get actually bad and not hilarious bad Wasn’t there tweets today about a new summon update being pushed out?
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TheMightyBoops posted:Wasn’t there tweets today about a new summon update being pushed out? idk man i just work here
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TheMightyBoops posted:Wasn’t there tweets today about a new summon update being pushed out? musk is occupied elsewhere, so it's probably a great time for tesla folks to get some work done on things that actually matter. but what can they do that isn't completely stupid (cross continental summon - definitely coming in 2018!) or impossible (solving the body panel gaps and all the other manufacturing defects)? maybe they're finally putting the hazard markings back in the factory now elon 'i just dont like yellow stickers' musk isn't likely to walk onto the floor
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rotor posted:really only a matter of time before poo poo starts to get actually bad and not hilarious bad it's both, op
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EricBauman posted:musk is occupied elsewhere, so it's probably a great time for tesla folks to get some work done on things that actually matter. I just wanna know if I need to be vigilant of Teslas when I walk through the parking lot at work tomorrow.
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rotor posted:what? seriously? eg quote:WARNING Regardless of the disabling procedure you use, ALWAYS ASSUME THAT ALL HIGH VOLTAGE COMPONENTS ARE ENERGIZED! Cutting, crushing, or touching high voltage components can result in serious injury or death. https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/downloads/Model_3_Emergency_Response_Guide_en.pdf
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jesus christ like why isn't there a manual disconnect for the battery? What the gently caress
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there’s lots of fun stuff in that first responders manual, for example:quote:WARNING NEVER TRANSPORT THE VEHICLE WITH THE TIRES IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN SPIN. DOING SO CAN LEAD TO SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE AND OVERHEATING. IN RARE CASES EXTREME OVERHEATING MAY CAUSE THE SURROUNDING COMPONENTS TO IGNITE.
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TheMightyBoops posted:I just wanna know if I need to be vigilant of Teslas when I walk through the parking lot at work tomorrow. well, the china video shows that you need to be vigilant anywhere the tesla can reach. one can just race into you at 100mph and keep going perfectly straight after it hits you. rogue teslas roaming the land are going to drive people to live in trees, swinging on vines from one treehouse to the next
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hobbesmaster posted:there’s lots of fun stuff in that first responders manual, for example: Does this mean if you roll one downhill it catches on fire?
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rotor posted:jesus christ there is, it disconnects the battery from the rest of the systems. it doesn’t mean the battery itself is “safed”. just like even if you disabled the fuel pump on a gas car there’s still flammable fuel in the tank itself
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rotor posted:if i was a fireman i'd just put sandbags around it and let it burn to ashes 
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hobbesmaster posted:there is, it disconnects the battery from the rest of the systems. it doesn’t mean the battery itself is “safed”. just like even if you disabled the fuel pump on a gas car there’s still flammable fuel in the tank itself right but it should de-energize the rest of the car. So apparently people aren't using it? or ???
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rotor posted:hahahahahaha looks like the s was forgotten LukeEvansSimon is the account and it's still locked so either way
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it says these components should be treated as energized even after the destructive disable (cutting wires) they tell rescuers to do:
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rotor posted:right but it should de-energize the rest of the car. So apparently people aren't using it? or ??? If I was just someone working at a body shop I would not assume the car could just instantly kill me when pulling a dent, so I can see this situation happening. Also the warning is probably in the charging cover so I wouldn’t necessarily have a reason to open it.
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so the batteries DONT have a manual disconnect?? this is very confusing, my solution is to never touch a tesla or let my children near them. edit: like idk, i feel like there needs to be a way to render all of the car safe to touch, that doesn't seem like a high bar.
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TheMightyBoops posted:If I was just someone working at a body shop I would not assume the car could just instantly kill me when pulling a dent, so I can see this situation happening. Also the warning is probably in the charging cover so I wouldn’t necessarily have a reason to open it. yeah i agree, but hopefully word of mouth is getting around
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