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Electric Phantasm posted:It is kind of incredible Anya saw a vision of her cool spy dad die and came face to face with an actual bomb and only came out of that with a slight traumatization of not being able to read a clock properly. She's still little enough that she can't really process the potentially horrifying consequences of the stuff she gets involved in e: like she's aware of them yeah but she doesn't really understand it Yinlock fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Nov 12, 2022 |
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Yinlock posted:She's still little enough that she can't really process the potentially horrifying consequences of the stuff she gets involved in She's aware it's bad like in her Bondman cartoons, but not how it extends to real life.
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Speaking of which, I really liked the bit in a recent episode where Twilight's handler contextualizes the stakes and makes it clear that the be all and end all of their mission is to preserve peace. Maybe not a realistic focus for an intelligence service, but a sympathetic one.
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Yor is such a Mom
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Kiss your wife, Loid.
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The pains of not knowing kid schedule.
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Desmond doin a little dance killed me and I'm dead
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Pootybutt posted:Desmond doin a little dance killed me and I'm dead Better than being sold as a Westalis slave.
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It may have been a filler episode, but it was a great filler episode.
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Nah, it was in the manga. At least, the George half was, I don't actually remember the Yor half of this episode in the manga.
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Seconding that sy-on boy’s dance caught me by surprise and I am so glad they kept using the animation in other shots lmao
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The George half is definitely in the manga, but unless it was in an LN or some volume extra that never made it over the Yor half is completely new. People would have remember Tricycle Gangster Anya. I suspect the anime team agrees about the lack of Yor focus.
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a kitten posted:Any other FFXIV goons watching because lol
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witchcore ricepunk posted:Seconding that sy-on boy’s dance caught me by surprise and I am so glad they kept using the animation in other shots lmao meme material tbh
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witchcore ricepunk posted:Seconding that sy-on boy’s dance caught me by surprise and I am so glad they kept using the animation in other shots lmao https://twitter.com/shama_Flower/status/1591514849661825025
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Anya's deadpan stare during the entire choral routine was fantastic visual comedy.
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Electric Phantasm posted:The George half is definitely in the manga, but unless it was in an LN or some volume extra that never made it over the Yor half is completely new. People would have remember Tricycle Gangster Anya. Yor's casual superhuman feats will never get old. The reveal that Loid is there and sees her wandering the courtyards yet does not see her climbing the walls like a human spider is icing on the cake.
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tsob posted:I would assume there's some selection bias there, in that you really only hear about the cases where younger siblings successfully out-do their older siblings, but that there's probably a pretty high rate of burn out for younger siblings trying to out-do older siblings and just not being able to keep it up long term, eventually transitioning to other things if not just collapsing emotionally and mentally from the effort in worst case scenarios. I'm burnt out just from competing with my younger sibling!
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cptn_dr posted:Kiss your wife, Loid.
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I swear this isn't spoiler bait but drat when's Yor actually gonna do assassin stuff again? She's been laundered into a nice mom instead of someone with no moral qualms about emotionlessly murdering people that we haven't seen since her introduction.
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Yor is playing a part still. Remember she was basically mother to her little brother the Secret Police agent. So she's always had this dual sided nature to her. She worries a lot too about being a good mother because she isn't aware of Loid's secret and thinks he's a simple psychiatrist. If she lets the mask drop she's worried she'll be arrested even though she's actually immune to prosecution. Also there was an interview where the author admits that assassin Yor is difficult to write for and still fit into the family unit. So she gets çomedy routines instead of stabbing people to death.
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I guess it's nice to hear the author admit that. I told myself to stop complaining about the more serious aspects of this series because it feels like it's meant to be an action comedy instead of like Metal Gear Solid political intrigue, but it just bugged me that Yor isn't as fleshed out and she gets superpowers from a blurb of an explanation about her past.
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I wonder if the series at one point in the author's mind had a much darker tone maybe not "originally intended" but played with, because between the slice of life and wholesomeness we get these glimpses into this completely tonally different show.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I wonder if the series at one point in the author's mind had a much darker tone maybe not "originally intended" but played with, because between the slice of life and wholesomeness we get these glimpses into this completely tonally different show. This is much lighter than the author's previous work. He's just showing bits of his usual under the surface. (His editor recommended he lighten up. His editor is very good at his job.)
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Even if they don't show her murdering on screen, it'd be nice to have her job be the source of comedic drama, instead of it always being loid's job
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The difference is that Yor is better at her job than Loid is at his. That, plus the nature of it, makes it harder for a comedic mission. Yor isn't going to humor a bad assassin who talks throughout the process, she'll just take them out.
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Pinwiz11 posted:
I'm having a hard time figuring out how you could possibly make a Yor version of the Daybreak story work, but I'm also having fun trying. Like so far I'm imagining a bad assassin who is only knocking people out and Yor facepalms and finishes off the unconscious targets. Kinda funny but also pretty gruesome.
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Yor's mission is to keep the bad assassin alive so he can be seen killing a target, it ends up being baby's day out.
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Pinwiz11 posted:The difference is that Yor is better at her job than Loid is at his. That, plus the nature of it, makes it harder for a comedic mission. Yor isn't going to humor a bad assassin who talks throughout the process, she'll just take them out. Hm. If you wanted an assassin who talks throughout the process, then an eccentric colleague or rival would be more suitable for a Yor story - someone she has to work with or can't easily beat. It wouldn't be a straight-up Daybreak analogue, although they'd probably still fill the role of 'annoyance who really gets on her nerves'.
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Pinwiz11 posted:The difference is that Yor is better at her job than Loid is at his. I don't think that's even kind of true. Not that I think Yor isn't amazing at her job, but the show has gone out of its way repeatedly to show that Loid is an exceptional spy who excels at a lot of things. He's struggling with this one specific mission, but only because the mission calls for a genius child who can excel at schooling and Anya isn't an academic or physical genius despite her other strengths, so nothing he does can cover for that entirely. Loid and Yor are both great at what they do, and I don't think the show has ever said or implied one is better than the other within their specific field. tsob fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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The thing About Yor is that she's very cool and a good mom who tries hard.
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TwoPair posted:Like so far I'm imagining a bad assassin who is only knocking people out and Yor facepalms and finishes off the unconscious targets. Kinda funny but also pretty gruesome. Dude, Yakuza 4 spoilers
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I mean I'm just sitting here waiting for Yor to get assassination orders for Loid. Honestly off the top of my head. Yor has to assassinate a bad dude but he's *incredibly* lucky. So like she's got everything perfectly set up, tosses a dagger and he bends over to tie his shoe or whatever and you have the gag run for as long as it stays funny. Or y'know, she has to kill a target that Loid's been told to protect and they can't figure out why their opponent is so loving good at their job. And honestly that second one can develop a fair bit: Loid gets asked to investigate this ludicrously effective assassin and keeps unearthing more and more evidence that it's Yor but dismisses it because he just doesn't buy that she could do that or because Anya covers for Yor. Natural 20 fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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Well if this season ends where I thinks it's going to end we are going to see Yor doing some assassination ajacent work for the final arc including what has been one of the best bits of action in the manga so far. So just be a little patient, it's coming.
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Yor's character would work a lot better if we understood her motives. She wants to be a good mom because that was the role she had with her brother as orphans, okay. She wanted to marry someone to keep her assassin job going uninterrupted... but why exactly? She's been a good assassin over the years but that shouldn't be the sole reason to keep doing it now as an adult. It's not a matter of raising money for her brother anymore and she isn't concerned about politics either. "I've always done it" is a pretty piss poor motive.
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Also what is the nature of her work? Does the person paying her have noble goals (she seemed to imply she killed "bad" people at one point) and is surgically removing threats similar to how WISE is or is it more mercenary where anyone could be a target if the price is right? As was said she has a cover job that pays and doesn't seem to be living a lavish lifestyle so why does she need to keep doing it to support just herself? I guess it could be something akin to "I have never actually thought about NOT doing it since I've been doing it for so long" but that's not really been expressed. As a TV viewer this might have already been answered in the comic and I just have to wait.
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The two main reasons are “protecting the peace,” which she genuinely believes she is doing by eliminating threats to said peace, and also because she really, really likes it. See how hot and bothered she gets whenever she’s evaluating the potential of something as a weapon.
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Saoshyant posted:Yor's character would work a lot better if we understood her motives. She wants to be a good mom because that was the role she had with her brother as orphans, okay. She wanted to marry someone to keep her assassin job going uninterrupted... but why exactly? She's been a good assassin over the years but that shouldn't be the sole reason to keep doing it now as an adult. It's not a matter of raising money for her brother anymore and she isn't concerned about politics either. "I've always done it" is a pretty piss poor motive.
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Eggplant Squire posted:As was said she has a cover job that pays and doesn't seem to be living a lavish lifestyle so why does she need to keep doing it to support just herself? I guess it could be something akin to "I have never actually thought about NOT doing it since I've been doing it for so long" but that's not really been expressed. It hasn't been explicitly stated, but I do think you could take that from the joy she felt when Anya and Loid liked her cooking. Her inner thoughts are that she thought she wanted to learn to cook to protect her cover story so could continue killing, but just having them acknowledge her makes her really happy. Not so much "I don't want to keep killing when I have this" or anything, and more "I never even thought about a life outside that" and now she's starting to find joy in other things as well as killing to protect peace.
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Saoshyant posted:Yor's character would work a lot better if we understood her motives. She wants to be a good mom because that was the role she had with her brother as orphans, okay. She wanted to marry someone to keep her assassin job going uninterrupted... but why exactly? She's been a good assassin over the years but that shouldn't be the sole reason to keep doing it now as an adult. It's not a matter of raising money for her brother anymore and she isn't concerned about politics either. "I've always done it" is a pretty piss poor motive.
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