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lih posted:i was kinda disappointed that germa just ended up as allies of convenience to the straw hats by the end of the arc and that sanji didn't get to cathartically beat up judge He did emotionally beat him up by saving him and literally lording over them while doing it.
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lih posted:i was kinda disappointed that germa just ended up as allies of convenience to the straw hats by the end of the arc and that sanji didn't get to cathartically beat up judge (though he did disown him at least). would have been nice to see reiju be able to escape from judge too, her situation is pretty bleak. even just something like judge being captured by the big mom pirates and reiju escaping with the others and trying to teach them how to be better people despite their lack of emotion would have been nice to see
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CatstropheWaitress posted:He did emotionally beat him up by saving him and literally lording over them while doing it. Sanji wasn't just going to beat Judge at his own game, as satisfying as that would have been, he rejected the game entirely. (Sanji is also very good at beating people up.)
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one of the best parts of wci is when judge insults sanji a ton as they're leaving and luffy does his schtick asking "why is he complimenting you?" found family is the best OP theme
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Crazyeyes posted:Davi D. Carradine 
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Eiba posted:Yeah, beating people up to establish superiority is Judge's thing. Helping people is Sanji's thing. He learned that from his father. Zeff. yeah i get that but it's a shonen series though!!! cathartic battles are what it's all about
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It’s not like Whole Cake was light on cathartic battles, and we the audience already know that Sanji would beat down his dad or any of his brothers 1 on 1
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Scratchman Apoo posted:I've heard the Pound thing a lot, and my takeaway is this. Pound was tough enough to shag Big Mom, he can probably take some damage.
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Brandfarlig posted:Judge falling to pieces when they're about to be killed while one of his sons goes "well we might've cried about our imminent death if you didn't make us sociopaths. Oh well" is also pretty good.
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Guy A. Person posted:It’s not like Whole Cake was light on cathartic battles, and we the audience already know that Sanji would beat down his dad or any of his brothers 1 on 1 We know Ichiji and Niji are mostly jokes against any Yonko crew who aren't mooks, but the only evidence we have of Sanji being stronger than Judge is through proxy with Queen. Delphisage fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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Delphisage posted:We know Ichiji and Niji are mostly jokes against anyone who's not a mook, but the only evidence we have of Sanji being stronger than Judge is through proxy with Queen. Sanji went easy on Judge during their sparring and even then Judge only got a hit on Sanji by using a mook as a human shield and then stabbing Sanji through the mook. Like Sanji just uses normal attacks and poo poo, doesn't even Diable Jambe. Meanwhile Judge is decked out in his raid suit. I also assume he doesn't have the cyborg reinforcements that his children have. Also the comparisons that Queen makes with Judge are their capability as scientists. Dunno why you'd even think the two are on the same level as fighters. Queen's like Kaido's second strongest dude after King, Judge doesn't hold a loving candle to him let alone Jack or even the stronger Tobi Roppo.
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Like everything we see of Judge implies he's weaker than his enhanced children or the higher rank of an Emperor's crew, both mentally and physically.
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Delphisage posted:We know Ichiji and Niji are mostly jokes against any Yonko crew who aren't mooks, but the only evidence we have of Sanji being stronger than Judge is through proxy with Queen.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Like everything we see of Judge implies he's weaker than his enhanced children or the higher rank of an Emperor's crew, both mentally and physically. Yeah Judge himself might be a New World capable fighter but the overwhelming impression that I got was that the kids through their genetic and cybernetic modding were stronger than him. Sanji gets beat by Judge in a brief fight largely because he is distracted by his own memories and Judge's human shields but even then he isn't hurt that much at all (he's actually significantly less roughed up than Yonji is from his off-screen fight with Sanji, where he apparently got the entire side of his face caved in by one of Sanji's kicks) Even if Sanji was only on-par or weaker than some of his brothers as of Whole Cake he's certainly stronger now post-Queen fight
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Hey guys, just a heads up that spoilers are out, with raws. Be careful if you’re looking to avoid spoilers! Of course, the only important spoiler to share: There IS a break next week.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Like everything we see of Judge implies he's weaker than his enhanced children or the higher rank of an Emperor's crew, both mentally and physically. I'm not one to believe Judge would just overlook augmenting himself to the same degree as his sons, especially when those Raid Suits are proven to actively augment any compatible wearers. I don't doubt Sanji's stronger than him now, though.
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Delphisage posted:I'm not one to believe Judge would just overlook augmenting himself to the same degree as his sons, especially when those Raid Suits are proven to actively augment any compatible wearers. I don't doubt Sanji's stronger than him now, though.
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Where did we land with ok translations that aren't TCB? There's a full scan out with a translation edited in, that seems not noticeably bad. Said translation: https://coloredmanga.com/manhwa/onepiecescanlations/chapter-1067/ edit: dropped the spoiler tags around it. CHAPTER! CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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Of course Vegapunk’s artificial devil fruit was a “failure” because the dragon form is pink instead of blue 
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This one is actually good quality scan for a wed night release.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Where did we land with ok translations that aren't TCB? There's a full scan out with a translation edited in, that seems not noticeably bad. The scan is actually pretty okay looking. The translation is pretty awkward English but intelligible. I don't see any reason to not post it if folks want to see what it's like. As for the chapter: It's so cool! An ancient robot that attacked Mariejois 200 years ago! Wow!
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Thought I had, tangentially related to the new chapter: Originally people were theorizing that Jewelry Bonney was wanted by the World Government to keep the higher-ups functionally immortal with her Devil Fruit, but now it seems more likely that their plan was to use her to age up the Seraphims to adulthood to unlock their full capabilities. But why does Lucci say the government no longer has any use for her? Have they found a way to get around that? Maybe they've managed to copy her power, like they did with Senor Pink.
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Whoa, a lot happening in this chapter. Looks like Vegapunk and Bonney will be travelling with the Straw Hats; Vegapunk's knowledge will probably be useful for giving at least some of the Straw Hats further powerups. Good to see that Oda hasn't forgotten about the events of CP9's Independent Report. Robin mentioning an exact year when discrimination against Fishmen started is a bizarre line, but it might come across more sensibly in a better translation. And finally, CP0 is kind of screwed now that Vegapunk and the Straw Hats know they're there.
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One Piece (or well, Luffy) never actually offing his enemies make for such an amazing intertwined world. I'm so, so excited for the Lucci/Kaku reunion.
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SgtSteel91 posted:Of course Vegapunk’s artificial devil fruit was a “failure” because the dragon form is pink instead of blue  
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luffy is great in this chapter lmao i'm guessing vegapunk wants to seek asylum on elbaf? maybe even meet up with the revolutionaries there? what happens if cp0 just destroys punk records though? Inadequately posted:Thought I had, tangentially related to the new chapter: Originally people were theorizing that Jewelry Bonney was wanted by the World Government to keep the higher-ups functionally immortal with her Devil Fruit, but now it seems more likely that their plan was to use her to age up the Seraphims to adulthood to unlock their full capabilities. But why does Lucci say the government no longer has any use for her? Have they found a way to get around that? Maybe they've managed to copy her power, like they did with Senor Pink. i still think it's way more likely that they wanted bonney as a hostage to force kuma to co-operate, i don't think her powers really come into it. if they did just want her powers for something they could have just killed her for her fruit, it doesn't seem like that's secret enough for the wg not to be aware of it as an option.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:but was it really removed? Almost certainly. Though Vegapunk's clearly not one to let information be lost, so he's got to have Kuma's personality saved somewhere on Egghead.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:but was it really removed? After this chapter, I think it got swapped out with a link to Vegapunk's consciousness since Kuma responded to the call-to-arms in the same way that the other Vegapunk clones did. I'm assuming Kuma's consciousness is being stored somewhere else in a secure location. Also, the whole bit about Kaido's Lineage Factor being turned into a slightly imperfect Devil Fruit makes me think that Devil Fruits are spawned out of a person's DNA and that making things like Funkfreed basically involves DNA splicing, but using different terminology to describe the same process since most people in One Piece can't understand the process the way we do in our reality in 2022.
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Addendum to theory: I think the person that makes Bonney’s powers obsolete is Shinobu. CP0 witnessed the raid on Onigashima, and must have figured out that Momonosuke got permanently aged up. If their aim is just to age up the Seraphims, then Shinobu’s irreversible power is all upside - can’t be countered by Haki, can’t be reversed with any other sort of Devil Fruit canceling power. I don’t think the World Gov has a way to reliably respawn a specific Devil Fruit power - if they do, they must have figured it out very recently, given that their policy for the Level 6 prisoners on Impel Down was “lock them up forever and let them rot” rather than “just kill them and take their very useful Devil Fruit power for one of our officers”. Of course, now that it’s clear Vegapunk can perfectly copy Devil Fruit powers with no apparent harm to the user, anything’s on the table now.
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I'm hoping the seraphim aren't the focus of the endgame fights; they're cool from a story perspective, but to actually fight they're basically a mute version of the zombies from the ninja war in Naruto, so hopefully they're just there to keep the wider cast tied up and give them all a cool little hero moment. Kuma being the exception of course.
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Inadequately posted:Addendum to theory: I think the person that makes Bonney’s powers obsolete is Shinobu. CP0 witnessed the raid on Onigashima, and must have figured out that Momonosuke got permanently aged up. If their aim is just to age up the Seraphims, then Shinobu’s irreversible power is all upside - can’t be countered by Haki, can’t be reversed with any other sort of Devil Fruit canceling power. I would love to see a flashback of the Marines trying to spawn Luffy’s fruit only for it to comically slip out of their grasp over centuries
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