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infernal machines posted:we call those startups, and even then they generally offer equity in lieu of pay. The employer I was the most personally invested in was the one that I also had equity in. Surprise! This actually should become more mainstream across all industries, not just because it's owning the means of production, but it also makes for employees who are quite engaged in making something successful. The regulatory overhead for this is quite steep though, which generally restricts it only to larger corps who only offer it to senior management. A govt department that manages and streamlines the process for smaller businesses (and ensures that people aren't screwed out of their share) could probably work?
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Dec 3, 2022 17:49
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Cool https://mobile.twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1599003056103952386
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Dec 4, 2022 05:08
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This MAID stuff is really a horrible looking glass into what the upper crust think of us.
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Dec 4, 2022 05:16
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Let them eat death
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Dec 4, 2022 05:43
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my morning jackass posted:You can’t keep your restaurant open cause people won’t work for min wage and you feel you can’t pay higher? Okay, then it’s not really a functional business anymore and needs to close. I’m reminded of a private company I, very briefly, worked for. I asked for a raise and presented my case but was told that things were extremely tough every where and they couldn’t possibly offer anyone raises or bonuses that year. At the company Christmas party a few weeks later, the owner tells all of us that we should be extremely proud because even though this year was really tough for everyone in our sector, the company was the only privately held one in this industry that was able to pay out dividends to its shareholders (the owner and his family) this year. edit - lol I just remembered that it was at the same party that I was talking to the owner’s wife and I mentioned in passing that my grandparents immigrated from mainland Europe after WW1. She looked surprised and said that she didn’t realize I was “ethnic”. Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Dec 4, 2022 |
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Dec 4, 2022 07:00
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There was a bit during the pandemic where old people volunteered at a restaurant on the Sunshine Coast because they were short staffed. Volunteered. For a for-profit business. Edit: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-retirees-volunteer-restaurant-1.6156832 ChickenDoodle fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Dec 4, 2022 |
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Dec 4, 2022 07:36
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ChickenDoodle posted:There was a bit during the pandemic where old people volunteered at a restaurant on the Sunshine Coast because they were short staffed. Volunteered. For a for-profit business. Proof that communism will work
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Dec 4, 2022 08:05
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As someone who supported (and still does support) the availability of MAID in a legal fashion, I think it's really loving clear after the stories that have come out, that the Canadian implementation needs a complete re-write, because what's happening with it is abhorrent. I've watched people die horrible, painful, undignified deaths in misery from conclusively terminal illnesses (late stage pancreatic cancer and that kind of poo poo) and not allowing people to end their life on their own terms in those situations, to gain... a few weeks or maybe a couple of months, spent in misery? That's not good, in my opinion. Ultimately, if people in that situation prefer to stick it out, they can and they should never be encouraged to seek MAID, but it should be an option if they choose to seek it. It should never, ever be used as a convenience. That should not be an option. I would go so far as to say, it should never be offered to anyone unless they ask about it. Further, we should increase economic and medical/accessibility support for people with disabilities so that no one ever needs to consider MAID (or indeed any form of suicide) due to economic issues.
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Dec 4, 2022 14:49
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PT6A posted:As someone who supported (and still does support) the availability of MAID in a legal fashion, I think it's really loving clear after the stories that have come out, that the Canadian implementation needs a complete re-write, because what's happening with it is abhorrent. I don’t understand how anyone who considers themselves to be a good person would even suggest someone kill themselves. Aiding someone who has come to a decision based on last resort is one thing. But this feels like over worked and frustrated social workers promote this kind of thing as a solution to an economics problem because they are not empowered to help people properly.
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Dec 4, 2022 16:09
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Noblesse Obliged posted:I don’t understand how anyone who considers themselves to be a good person would even suggest someone kill themselves.
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Dec 4, 2022 16:30
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I don't think it is really being promoted by people in good faith - for example, the link I posted seems to be related to a single employee going rogue. But I think the permissive rules around it compared to other countries make it inevitable that it will be offered, and perhaps accepted, in inappropriate situations, especially once it's available for mental illness.
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Dec 4, 2022 16:33
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I'm also weary of MAID for non-terminal extreme pain, given the entire solution to the opioid epidemic seems to be "restrict availability to people who need pain relief." Because it would be trivially manageable if we didn't treat people with severe chronic pain like they're doing something wrong by seeking drugs which effectively treat that pain.
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Dec 4, 2022 16:58
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This is horrifying but OTOH we should consider offering assisted dying to all of the companies who "can't compete" if they have to pay a reasonable minimum wage.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:23
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Can I offer you a MAID in this trying time?
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Dec 4, 2022 19:21
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COPE 27 posted:I don't think it is really being promoted by people in good faith - for example, the link I posted seems to be related to a single employee going rogue. But I think the permissive rules around it compared to other countries make it inevitable that it will be offered, and perhaps accepted, in inappropriate situations, especially once it's available for mental illness. I risk legal consequences if I suggest to mentally ill people that they should kill themselves. At the very least a social worker “going rogue” and even hinting at MAID should not be allowed to continue to work with vulnerable people. I support MAID as I understood it to mean. Which is a thoughtful and compassionate end when the alternative is a painful and negligible quality of life based on sound medical advice with checks and balances. Not just E/N threads in real life telling people “have you tried killing yourself over it?”
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Dec 4, 2022 19:49
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How many people have got MAID? Is this a thing where the first stage of the funnel is very broad or, as some of the stories seem to be, a part of activism for those on disability programs? Obviously there is the potential for terrible outcomes, but are they happening?
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Dec 4, 2022 20:24
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folytopo posted:How many people have got MAID? Is this a thing where the first stage of the funnel is very broad or, as some of the stories seem to be, a part of activism for those on disability programs? Hard to say. Here is the governments report for I believe 2021. They don’t out and say how many were offered this because of poverty but you can see the numbers of those who did or did not receive care. The report does specify that “receiving” care did not indicate its quality. I would image the number is hidden somewhere in the “other” percentages where they don’t list specific illness or their deaths are not “reasonably foreseeable” which seems to be the mechanism that is driving this. There are several cases easily google-able where, although the person did have a medical challenge, the underlying source for their choice to die was the economic burden of their disability which was the source of their lack of quality of life Not the challenge itself. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/medical-assistance-dying/annual-report-2021.html#a4
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Dec 4, 2022 21:00
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My favourite part of Goodfellas was when Tommy gets MAID.
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Dec 4, 2022 21:01
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Danielle Smith is nuts lol. https://twitter.com/carrietait/status/1599870520539123712?s=21 EDIT: And from talking to people who support the act in any way, it's basically all "Quebec does bad stupid poo poo too, why can't we?" No one actually defends the act on any level, it's just "well Quebec also did awful things [that they shouldn't be allowed to do] therefore we should do things like that too." Sadly, it's difficult to argue against that so long as Quebec's malarky gets ignored, because as much as "well Quebec should also not get away with stupid poo poo" is a great point, it will inevitably lead to a discussion of why the federal government and media seem to focus less on that. I don't know that that's actually the case, but it's sure as hell the perception around here. PT6A fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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Dec 5, 2022 23:36
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PT6A posted:Danielle Smith is nuts lol. People generally handwave Quebec's poo poo as "well they have a unique culture (French) from the rest of Canada". What unique culture does Alberta have?
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Dec 5, 2022 23:58
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chuds
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Dec 6, 2022 00:00
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Madkal posted:People generally handwave Quebec's poo poo as "well they have a unique culture (French) from the rest of Canada". What unique culture does Alberta have? Of course that's what they do, and in some cases that's a legitimate excuse, and in other cases it's just bullshit, and that's the point. The restriction of the rights of non-Francophones in Quebec should not be allowed, the restriction of the rights of religious minorities should not be allowed, and the policies which favour Francophones in Quebec without diminishing the rights of non-Francophones, should be allowed in the interest of maintain Quebec as a culturally distinct society. It's not actually that difficult to draw a line in a sane place if you think about it for over three seconds.
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Dec 6, 2022 00:11
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Madkal posted:People generally handwave Quebec's poo poo as "well they have a unique culture (French) from the rest of Canada". What unique culture does Alberta have? Big bulls' balls Mormons Vulcan, AB
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Dec 6, 2022 00:47
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The rich tapestry of eastern Europeans duped into living in what was mostly a wasteland by the Crown.
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Dec 6, 2022 00:49
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Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump. Too bad more Albertans don't follow the example of the noble Buffalo.
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Dec 6, 2022 00:50
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RBC posted:chuds Sadly not unique to Alberta
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Dec 6, 2022 02:39
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Madkal posted:People generally handwave Quebec's poo poo as "well they have a unique culture (French) from the rest of Canada". What unique culture does Alberta have? The God-given right to force your children to work unsupervised on your farm so they drown in corn kernels in a silo.
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Dec 6, 2022 03:21
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I think by now you can make the case that the fake alienation that Alberta rural voters feel is a unique and rich tradition.
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Dec 6, 2022 03:33
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apatheticman posted:I think by now you can make the case that the fake alienation that Alberta rural voters feel is a unique and rich tradition. Their sense of persecution, alienation, and exploitation is a core facet of their identities and their communities, and cannot be challenged, lest they crumble away into the sort of sandy dirt you find by the side of the Number 2.
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Dec 6, 2022 03:43
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apatheticman posted:I think by now you can make the case that the fake alienation that Alberta rural voters feel is a unique and rich tradition. You say this, but demonstrably nothing unites CanPol like making fun of Alberta. So it's difficult to say the alienation is fake exactly.
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Dec 6, 2022 04:05
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It's legitimately the best province to live in if you ignore the dingbats and crazy politicians. The people are largely really decent, the assholes are just super loud.
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Dec 6, 2022 04:08
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Whiskey_Dick posted:It's legitimately the best province to live in if you ignore the dingbats and crazy politicians. The people are largely really decent, the assholes are just super loud. The cities are good, I like living here. I don't know why the sister-fuckers up in La Crete get a say in what happens to us, mind you... fix that problem, you've got a good province.
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Dec 6, 2022 05:47
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Whiskey_Dick posted:It's legitimately the best province to live in if you ignore the dingbats and crazy politicians. The people are largely really decent, the assholes are just super loud. I, too, enjoy ignoring the vile wretches making laws to make everyone's lives worse. They'll go away eventually and everything will be fine.
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Dec 6, 2022 05:49
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Whiskey_Dick posted:The people are largely really decent, the assholes are just super loud. That's also what people say where I live - a city that is full of racists and misogynists and homophobes
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Dec 6, 2022 06:04
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SilverMike posted:I, too, enjoy ignoring the vile wretches making laws to make everyone's lives worse. They'll go away eventually and everything will be fine. They actually will go away, and not eventually - very soon. The UCP won't be in power this time next year and whatever kooky laws Danielle Smith enacted will be repealed.
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Dec 6, 2022 06:13
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Bleck posted:That's also what people say where I live - a city that is full of racists and misogynists and homophobes Sounds like a lovely city. Toronto?
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Dec 6, 2022 06:14
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Madkal posted:People generally handwave Quebec's poo poo as "well they have a unique culture (French) from the rest of Canada". What unique culture does Alberta have? Truck nuts and gun nuts
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Dec 6, 2022 09:36
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Whiskey_Dick posted:Sounds like a lovely city. Toronto? Mos Eisley
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Dec 6, 2022 12:07
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Canuckistan posted:Mos Eisley Mos Eglinton
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Whiskey_Dick posted:Sounds like a lovely city. Toronto? You could name any city, town, or village in Canada and not be wrong.
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