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Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I love this series because you can torment other people who have read it by making jokes in front of people currently reading it.

I just called Nona the most down to earth girl, and had three friends angrily PM me about it.

Also thought experiement: We already know Alecto's theme, but what are Nona/Gideon/Harrow's themes?

Senerio fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Dec 6, 2022

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Reclaimer
Sep 3, 2011

Pierced through the heart
but never killed



Senerio posted:

I love this series because you can torment other people who have read it by making jokes in front of people currently reading it.

I just called Nona the most down to earth girl, and had three friends angrily PM me about it.

Also thought experiement: We already know Alecto's theme, but what are Nona/Gideon/Harrow's themes?

Gideon
Harrow
Nona

Reclaimer fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Dec 7, 2022

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
This was the first thought that came to mind when I think about Harrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpdpE00rfI

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Senerio posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58wcEfJuwQg

Someone made an animatic of Jod's storyline from Nona

only just got round to this and mother of jod this is fantastic

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Cowbutt Crunchies Cosplay is apparently working on some Locked Tomb costumes and they just posted the knuckle bone rosary they made on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheNinthHouse/comments/zf7mhe/fan_art_a_knucklebone_rosary_for_my_harrow/

If you're not familiar with Cowbutt Crunchies, check them out. The two of them have amazing craftmanship so there is no doubt in my mind their Harrow is going to be fantastic

https://www.cowbuttcrunchiescosplay.com/

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Happy Landfill posted:

This was the first thought that came to mind when I think about Harrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpdpE00rfI

Harrow really is the easiest, yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FufL80hJsP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1SG1hQObm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZKxungSg9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwoMJNxiFo

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I've been converted by a friend.

Nona's theme.

(Listen to the lyrics, because this song has lyrics)

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Senerio posted:

I love this series because you can torment other people who have read it by making jokes in front of people currently reading it.

I just called Nona the most down to earth girl, and had three friends angrily PM me about it.

Also thought experiement: We already know Alecto's theme, but what are Nona/Gideon/Harrow's themes?

harrow's is crawling in my skin, full volume
gideon's is gently caress the police, played at an even higher volume when harrow is around
nona is that tiny tim having a wonderful time song

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
a friend of mine hit Ianthe's Big Scene in Gideon at 11pm last night and obviously couldn't go to sleep until finishing the book, so my texts from her were basically one long continuous scream lol

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Google Jeb Bush posted:

a friend of mine hit Ianthe's Big Scene in Gideon at 11pm last night and obviously couldn't go to sleep until finishing the book, so my texts from her were basically one long continuous scream lol

god I live for this poo poo

if you want to and can quote some of them without revealing personal info, I would fully support posting it lol

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
Deep in our hearts we all know what Gideon's image song is

https://youtu.be/wyx6JDQCslE

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Happy Landfill posted:

Deep in our hearts we all know what Gideon's image song is

https://youtu.be/wyx6JDQCslE

"Why was I born so attractive?"

RDM
Apr 6, 2009

I LOVE FINLAND AND ESPECIALLY FINLAND'S MILITARY ALLIANCES, GOOGLE FINLAND WORLD WAR 2 FOR MORE INFORMATION SLAVA UKRANI

Senerio posted:

I've been converted by a friend.

Nona's theme.

(Listen to the lyrics, because this song has lyrics)
Wrong.

https://youtu.be/astISOttCQ0

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

silvergoose posted:

"Why was I born so attractive?"

That poor girl, being raised in an environment where she couldn't properly flex and get showered with the attention she deserved

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Google Jeb Bush posted:

a friend of mine hit Ianthe's Big Scene in Gideon at 11pm last night and obviously couldn't go to sleep until finishing the book, so my texts from her were basically one long continuous scream lol

This is the best poo poo. I've been on both sides of this, for Locked Tomb and other things. One of my friends has had to endure the periodic refrain of, "This loving BOOK" (or "GAME") whenever I hit something like this.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Happy Landfill posted:

That poor girl, being raised in an environment where she couldn't properly flex and get showered with the attention she deserved

Figure that once she became a "prince" she spent a lot of time binging She-Hulk via Jod's DVD collection

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

”harrow the ninth but everybody except Harrow is a muppet idk”

Zorak of Michigan
Jun 10, 2006


I like but but there's a continuity problem with my own cherished ideal of Gideon the Ninth where everybody but Teacher is a Muppet.

Except now that I've thought about it, I want Gideon where Statler and Waldorf are collectively Teacher.

Hell with it, everyone but Crux is a Muppet. Crux hates Muppets. Also, there's this wildly overused gag where any time someone talks about bones, Gideon waves her arm in a way that clearly reveals it has huge biceps and no bones.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
What you do is you have her flex under a long sleeve repeatedly and it looks like a normal flex and then eventually you give her shorts sleeves, perhaps in combat, and she flexes and her wiggly little muppet arm is just making a "U" shape

Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Dec 10, 2022

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo
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Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Yep, it's also free with Prime Lending Library.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




I read it, it's good, if a little ghoulish.

funkymonks
Aug 31, 2004

Pillbug
Reread Nona and the one thing I can’t get out of my head is how disappointed I will be if Alecto doesn’t end up wearing the mustache rides tshirt.

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!
This was brought up earlier in the thread, but why is Nona white on the cover art? I thought Harrow and Gideon were both brown?

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Gideon is dark because her dad is Maori from a kerjillion years ago so there hasn't been as much phenotypal variation over the generations. Harrow is sickly pale and presumably mixed race over thousands of years.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Also even people with darker skin will be paler after spending no time in the sun at all.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Also, like, you don't have to be brown to be Māori. As long as you whakapapa Māori then you're Māori and the colour of your skin doesn't really come into it.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Muppet Jod just feels like the most natural thing in the world. Can you imagine Mercymourn vaporizing him in a burst of fluff and felt? Love it. A+

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Happy Landfill posted:

Muppet Jod just feels like the most natural thing in the world. Can you imagine Mercymourn vaporizing him in a burst of fluff and felt? Love it. A+

"I spent ten thousand years memorizing puppet anatomy in preparation for this moment."

"But... it's all just fluff, isn't it?"

Wait, if Mercymupp vaporizes the Muppet Emperor, would there be a puppeteer left behind looking confused and trying to work puppet arms that aren't there any more?

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

In this interpretation the Empire is basically Groverhaus

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

mllaneza posted:

I read it, it's good, if a little ghoulish.

Well, one of the main characters in it is apparently a ghoul so... that makes sense? Granted that I haven't gotten around to reading it myself yet.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Kesper North posted:

In this interpretation the Empire is basically Groverhaus

Groverhaus with left grief.

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Rand Brittain posted:



Wait, if Mercymupp vaporizes the Muppet Emperor, would there be a puppeteer left behind looking confused and trying to work puppet arms that aren't there any more?


That would be the most hosed up and hilarious so yes

mewse
May 2, 2006

I did a gideon->harrow->nona re-read when nona came out so I'm finally back and reading the thread, Harrow made *so much more sense* as a re-read just after reading Gideon, and the tonal shifts between the 3 books were easier to deal with. It was useful being able to discern who the initialed characters were in Jod's flashback chapters (A---- for Augustine, M---- for Mercymorn, G---- for Saint of Duty etc)

NtN / hot sauce spoilers

Sitting Here posted:

Sidenote to that—I was a little bummed out that we didn't see the gang convene at Hot Sauce's hideout, which was kind of set up to be a set piece later in the story. Unless I glazed over it somehow? Audiobooks can have that effect.

I think that scene was just to illustrate Hot Sauce being recruited by Blood of Eden. Angel/Aim/"The Messenger" was taking charge at the school to try and keep the kids alive, off screen it seems that she basically provides Hot Sauce with a Blood of Eden safe house.

tiniestacorn posted:

This was my read. I understand the impulse to do soul quantum stuff, but the simplest answer to "why is Gideon acting like this?" is that she's suffered a tremendous number of serious traumas in short succession -- not to mention the baggage she's already carrying from her childhood in the Ninth -- and she's 19 years old.

Yeah.. with respect to Gideon I was a little surprised/disheartened that she was mean to Nona when she showed up. It seems like a lot of people were, considering the theorycrafting about Gideon's soul. But I think this is the first time in 3 books we've seen Gideon outside of gideon/harrow PoV and it just makes sense that Gideon (AND harrow!) appear to be dicks from an outside perspective. And Gideon has a dad now etc etc. The friendship bracelets are still sus af (I like the theory that teacher, another revenant, was wearing a woven belt and that might be related)


(hot sauce art) that is awesome.

e: from an interview that was posted it makes so much sense that Muir was a teacher. I wouldn't be able to write the social interactions of children as realistically as she did.

mewse fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Dec 11, 2022

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









mewse posted:

I did a gideon->harrow->nona re-read when nona came out so I'm finally back and reading the thread, Harrow made *so much more sense* as a re-read just after reading Gideon, and the tonal shifts between the 3 books were easier to deal with. It was useful being able to discern who the initialed characters were in Jod's flashback chapters (A---- for Augustine, M---- for Mercymorn, G---- for Saint of Duty etc)

NtN / hot sauce spoilers

I think that scene was just to illustrate Hot Sauce being recruited by Blood of Eden. Angel/Aim/"The Messenger" was taking charge at the school to try and keep the kids alive, off screen it seems that she basically provides Hot Sauce with a Blood of Eden safe house.

Yeah.. with respect to Gideon I was a little surprised/disheartened that she was mean to Nona when she showed up. It seems like a lot of people were, considering the theorycrafting about Gideon's soul. But I think this is the first time in 3 books we've seen Gideon outside of gideon/harrow PoV and it just makes sense that Gideon (AND harrow!) appear to be dicks from an outside perspective. And Gideon has a dad now etc etc. The friendship bracelets are still sus af (I like the theory that teacher, another revenant, was wearing a woven belt and that might be related)

(hot sauce art) that is awesome.

It's worth reading Gideon's interactions with Nona very carefully, they're not actually as mean as they feel on first read? Like Nona says, Gideon is just incredibly, unbelievably sad.

Reclaimer
Sep 3, 2011

Pierced through the heart
but never killed



sebmojo posted:

It's worth reading Gideon's interactions with Nona very carefully, they're not actually as mean as they feel on first read? Like Nona says, Gideon is just incredibly, unbelievably sad.

"Chill."

Reclaimer fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Dec 11, 2022

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

mewse posted:

I did a gideon->harrow->nona re-read when nona came out so I'm finally back and reading the thread, Harrow made *so much more sense* as a re-read just after reading Gideon, and the tonal shifts between the 3 books were easier to deal with. It was useful being able to discern who the initialed characters were in Jod's flashback chapters (A---- for Augustine, M---- for Mercymorn, G---- for Saint of Duty etc)


I’ve seen a lot of fan speculation that those are not their original names and that Jod renamed them with fancier names starting with the same letters when he resurrected everyone after the apocalypse (and wiped out their memories of what he actually did)

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Entropic posted:

I’ve seen a lot of fan speculation that those are not their original names and that Jod renamed them with fancier names starting with the same letters when he resurrected everyone after the apocalypse (and wiped out their memories of what he actually did)

That would be a very John thing to do

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

I'm pretty sure he actually said something to that effect, or at least very strongly hinted at it, in the bits of his narration.

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Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Entropic posted:

I’ve seen a lot of fan speculation that those are not their original names and that Jod renamed them with fancier names starting with the same letters when he resurrected everyone after the apocalypse (and wiped out their memories of what he actually did)

Those are their old Tumblr usernames

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