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Art is generally not great as a profession, but hey it might be where a person ends up when their joints stop working for hauling boxes around, so gently caress you guys too, I guess? I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to get out of those posts other than 'gently caress you for existing', which I already get enough from medical professionals and economists as of late. Like, maybe I'm missing out on some secret cabal of artists where I get money for free, or something, I dunno what the art show scene is like. I draw dumb poo poo on commission, I'm not sure that's appreciably noble. Shady Amish Terror has issued a correction as of 00:09 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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Shady Amish Terror posted:Art is generally not great as a profession, but hey it might be where a person ends up when their joints stop working for hauling boxes around, so gently caress you guys too, I guess? I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to get out of those posts other than 'gently caress you for existing', which I already get enough from medical professionals and economists as of late. what are you talking about? this just means that more people whose joints stopped working can type in a few prompts and generate images. art is now a profession that more people can access, it's been democratized. you're just salty that other people are allowed into the club
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Punching keywords into a box isn't making art lol
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ok boomer
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Dec 11, 2022 00:33
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Punching keywords into a box isn't making art lol Agreed. I've always considered it "finding "art""
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indigi posted:what are you talking about? this just means that more people whose joints stopped working can type in a few prompts and generate images. art is now a profession that more people can access, it's been democratized. you're just salty that other people are allowed into the club Lol so stupid
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Punching keywords into a box isn't making art lol Then neither is taking a picture of a soda can, or splattering some paint on a canvas.  Yet, quite a few people believe those things requiring no particular technical skill do, in fact, qualify as art. Was Virgil Abloh an artist? Plenty of people considered him one. How was what he did significantly different from this. Give it some thought sometime.
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Slavvy posted:Lol so stupid it's ok to be mad but kind of embarrassing to do it in public
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'Art has been democratized' is in the top five dumbest things I've ever read on this forum, it's art itself in some ways
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Actually when a few researchers steal a billion illustrations for their algorithm to replicate it’s extremely democratic
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it's actually ableist to be against art theft
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Slavvy posted:Lol so stupid
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it's really funny watching "artists" cry their baby tears because some ai will draw diaper porn commissions cheaper
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Offkorn posted:Then neither is taking a picture of a soda can, or splattering some paint on a canvas. you guys ever get tired of having variations of this conversation
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Pink Mist posted:Actually when a few researchers steal a billion illustrations for their algorithm to replicate it’s extremely democratic I mean, yeah. IP laws are dumb anyway
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Nosfereefer posted:it's really funny watching "artists" cry their baby tears because some ai will draw diaper porn commissions cheaper
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Offkorn posted:Then neither is taking a picture of a soda can, or splattering some paint on a canvas. if someone threw a can of paint at a canvas, then gave me another can of paint and another canvas, and i threw that can of paint at that canvas, i would not have the same paint on the same canvas. i have no idea how many thousands or hundreds of thousands of tries it would take to actually do so. if someone sent me the prompt they used to generate a specific image on midjourney and the settings they used, and bought me a subscription so i could do so, then i would be able to perfectly recreate that image in a couple of minutes that seems like a pretty significant difference but i dunno
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seems pretty dumb to argue about whether ai jpegs "are art" or not people share cool videogame screenshots or whatever all the time, sometimes with a lot of personal involvement in playing anime dressup with their game character and setting the framing and pose etc first and sometimes just mashing the printscreen button during a random moment they spent 0 effort orchestrating you can say "hey here is a cool picture i took from a computer program" and share it with your buds on twitter whether or not it is art that you made the more serious questions are like "what kind of effects is this gonna have on society", especially people who currently work making stock images or menial corporate background art or whatever, not "does that person posting jpegs on twitter count as an artist (their life will be exactly the same whether i say yes or no)" you could even argue over "does this count as copy-paste stealing from real artists" which is kinda a dumb argument but at least better than this one RPATDO_LAMD has issued a correction as of 02:13 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:the more serious questions are like "what kind of effects is this gonna have on society" none
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indigi posted:none Oh, so you're just trolling for the heck of it. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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WrasslorMonkey posted:Oh, so you're just trolling for the heck of it. Whatever floats your boat I guess. how do you think lovely AI generated art will "change society"
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behold: an effect on society, posted in this very thread!
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a website offering a new product isn't an effect on society lol
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Jesus artists are really stupid huh
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indigi posted:a website offering a new product isn't an effect on society lol WrasslorMonkey posted:Oh, so you're just trolling for the heck of it. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
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looks like an radical interpetation of goon making GBS threads and pissing themselfs jpg
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Offkorn posted:Then neither is taking a picture of a soda can, or splattering some paint on a canvas. How was Virgil Abloh punching keywords into a text box? Please explain how an AI can produce a Duchamp ready-made. Give it some thought sometime. Art being produced doesn't art make. A lovely out of focus shot of a chainlink fence is art in the sense that it has aesthetic ends. Outsourcing aesthetic ends does not art make.
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Homeless Friend posted:I asked the AI and i believe we have an answer 
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only a true virtuoso such as myself could come up with the inspiration to type "blonde anime girl huge breasts titanic titties ridiculous honkers absolutely humongous hooters stupid big goated juggs" and produce fine art.
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:"blonde anime girl huge breasts titanic titties ridiculous honkers absolutely humongous hooters stupid big goated juggs" 
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you're just not using the right model smh i think she's on the titanic
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artstation is on fire
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trending on artstation: i dig the fingers
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reading art twitter, a lot of artists seem to be under the impression the models are being actively trained in real-time, and not just using data sets compiled over two years ago they're right the companies are absolutely building prompt submission data sets, tho
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Tree Reformat posted:reading art twitter, a lot of artists seem to be under the impression the models are being actively trained in real-time, and not just using data sets compiled over two years ago people on the stable diffusion subreddit were and still are losing their loving minds about the 2.0 model having a new built in super advanced filter that prevents it from generating nudity or photos of celebrities because someone saw a paragraph on their github page talking about using a SFW filter for LAION and had no idea what it meant
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a lot of artist twitter has extremely bad and poorly reasoned takes on this, that are also completely correct
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https://twitter.com/Sketch_Ferret/status/1603163381447409665 https://twitter.com/Sketch_Ferret/status/1603163381447409665/retweets/with_comments i love twitter
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Now that I think about it, if you can mess up ai driving by making signs that have things they pick up and we don't, artists can basically trap all their art and render it impractical to scrape off the web, as well as make it harder to make manual sets. Edit: it'd be lol af if the internet got briefly clogged with AI art and then developed what was basically antibodies that ruined cheap AI art. Could probably make something that'd be impossible to program around easily since it's probably easier to gently caress stuff up then to unfuck it. thechosenone has issued a correction as of 04:59 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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not really it's super easy to develop 'adversarial attacks' for specific ai models but they can't really be generalized since they rely on the specific details of that one already-trained AI for example, here is one such attack to modify images so they're not useful as input for img2img: https://github.com/MadryLab/photoguard  note that this only works for stable-diffusion specifically, you would need a whole separate adversarial attack against e.g. dalle2 or google imagen inpainting however afaik there is no practical way to prevent people from right click saving your image and using it as training data for a new AI model
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